Yeah, it wasn't very good, and I'm a Charlie apologist. Locke definitely seemed out of it, and I dunno, I just felt bad for Charlie for a lot of this episode. Those visions though, some parts of it were neatly done, other things were just messy.

I was going to say the same thing > I will even go futher cause I was thinking that the baby is going to die.

Also anything to the both mother / baby get bapitized > could they both die.

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Kate seems pissed off about Jack / Ana L

plus I thought it was hilarous when Hurley was getting told that he stepped on Libby's foot.

I thought it was great.

IT was essentially a filler episode. But it was a great filler at that. Definitely the best Charlie episode and gald it didn't end all happy and everything solved.

I agree Locke was a bit off, but they did need an antagonist for Charlie; well, at least a tangible one for most of America

I find the religious stuff quite interesting, especially how it's all developing and considering both Lindelof and Abrams are Jewish, are they not?

The Libby/Hurley scenes were pretty good. IS it just me or does Libby look quite different from before?

This was a good episode. I don't mind Charlie, I don't get the Charlie-hate. Is he flawed? Yeah but lets have a refresher of previous events from season 1: Charlie went after Claire when she was kidnapped to help her and got strung up from a tree and temporarily died. Locke was essentially responsible for Boone's death not only by telling him to climb up to a dangerous place but by not telling Jack how Boone was hurt so Jack couldn't save Boone. Locke has no moral high ground over Charlie in general.

The Hurley/Libby thing is ok, I don't mind it, but it's more science fiction than the monster is, completely unrealistic.

The baptism thing, it was handled well but I wonder...is this show adding religion because they read the poll numbers and the box office returns of certain religious movies and are trying to be in synch with what they think is a very religious public? I hope not but it seems so.

I thought it was amusing that Ana Lucia managed in one question to both ask Jack if he was taken and tell him she thought he was hot. That was like some well practiced bar line, cracked me up. Also I'm sensing that they know that Ana Lucia and some of the other tailies were not as well received as they hoped and have toned them down a lot and limited their screen time.

Really dull episode. Imagine if you were flipping through channels and saw the diaper scene or Hurley dressed as Moses.

What happened Lost, you used to be cool.

Yeah well it morphed into a soap opera unfortunately. Sure sign of it not being as cool as we'd like:

http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_ma ... 7C,00.html

Maybe they need to start being a little more offensive.

or maybe this is a set up for the future.......................

"You hittin' that?"

Worst line in the history of television.

good point.

I don't believe that Locke would change his attitude so quickly. I think that he's simply acquiring some of Jack's no-nonsense behavior, similar to how Jack has started being more open to blind faith. It's possible that Locke saved the statue becuase he might secretly believe that the island really is testing Charlie.

As for the next episode:
[spoil]According to IMDB, we're going to see Kate's Mom in the Sawyer flashback. Add that to the fact that we'll likely find out that Locke's dad is "The real Sawyer", and this episode should have the best flashbacks of the season so far. [/spoil]

[spoil]Maybe they will make Sawyer and Kate brother and sister.[/spoil]

As to the statues, I figured Locke saved them simply because it's obvious they might have some medical value.

It wasn't a bad episode. I still despise Charlie, and his flashbacks were dull as dishwater, but watching him slowly spiral into madness was fun. As was watching him get beaten. In fact, take out the flashbacks and this was the best episode yet!

Oh, and Charlie's mother was awful. She had the worst Mancunian accent in the history of terrible Mancunian accents.

Im not sure if anyone mentioned it, but what will the "twist" about Libby's character be when her flashback episode comes on. She most definitely wasn't recognized by Hurley because he walked on her foot...

[spoil] SpoilerFix.com
01/25 - Q. Is it possible that Lost's Libby is not a doctor, but a ********** ****? Ausiello: That's what I'm hearing, yes. Source: Ask Ausiello @ TV Guide [Note: We do not know for sure what was *** out, but most LOST fans believe it's "compulsive liar."] [/spoil]

Lets look at each of the characters and where they stand at the moment.

Jack: Jack is at a position where he has unofficially taken some leadership role in his head. He is fond of Ana Lucia and his relationship with Kate is now being pushed towards either 'friendship' or a late realization that they really do like each other. Jack may not be a man of faith but hes questioning things less and less. His interactions with Charlie tells us that hes still the main sympathetic ear, unlike Locke who listens with the intentions of solving a problem.

Locke: The only character right now who sort of knows in his head what hes doing. He thinks he understands the island, understands whats important and understands what needs to be done in different situations. hes always there to tell people how things need to be done but allows them the flexibility to make their own decisions .... until its something he really doesn't want. Loche has turned into a go to guy in the series. Hes the official problem solver and i think there will be a situation on the series very soon when Locke's character will play a pivotal role once again.

Sayid: Sayid has been pushed back ... and its been a long time since hes been there. Not since his meeting with the french lady that any real development on his part has happened though hes been involved in situations. For obvious reasons though, i think they're giving enough time for him to get over the gurlie's death so they may bring him back in character. i dont think they want to focus too much on him sulking at all. when we see him next, he should be back to how hes always been. Sayid is one of the few interesting characters on the show right now but it doesn't look like he'll be a part of any real developments on the show. he will be around but wont be the one impacting them.

Kate: I'm sick of kate's flashbacks now. You know that 1 girl who always hangs around a bunch of guys yet remains gurlie to an extent? Thats what Kate is now. Kate is the go to 'girl' and i think that the next impact that she'll have on the show will either be something thats forced upon us or will have to do with her interactions with Jack. Her relationship with sawyer will remain what it is ... a relationship. might dwindle but wont amount to anything huge storywise.

Charlie: You may not like charlie but i think hes at the moment, becoming the msot important character on the show. Outside of Jack, who needed episodes back to back to establish him as the main lead, the focus has now suddenly turned on charlie and it did so in a dramatic fashion. they've pushed him into becoming an outcast which makes no sense unless something big was in store. That usually involves a character having to prove themselves shortly or being in a position where they must make a choice that effects the entire group. Charlie is the only character thats been a factor in keeping the story moving. While the episodes have been character centric, i think they'll have the biggest impact on the course of events.

Sawyer: Sawyer, like Sayid is temporarily pushed to the back, hs injury being an excuse. sawyer started off as a dick. now hes being pushed more as a bad boy with a sad past, who portrays one thing on the outside and another on the inside. his sensitive side has been explored enough to allow us to accept the new sawyer. while sawyer wont be doing anything significant, expect him to get lots of screentime.

Eko: Producers will realize soon the popularity this character has. If not already planned, expect to be a showing. No way are they pushing this guy off. Eko, Locke and Jack will make a weird trinity. They'll lead the pack in one way or the other but all 3 now have differences when it comes to the idea of faith. Locke and Eko will clash and the only reason it hasn't happened as yet is because they haven't crossed paths. both have almost exact character traits but differences in how they look at things. This should be the most interesting story arc.

Claire: She remains important if only because of Aaron. Aaron is the only kid left which i think is a big deal. She will be caught in the middle of something soon and with Charlie being all messed up, the chances of Claire having to be a part of the people who are sorting some matters out for the group isn't a far fetched possibility.

Rose and whatshisname: This is a couple that should remain in the background. They should not be allowed to come into the forefront. they're supporting characters that are good where they are and nothing more than that. a significant amount of screentime in 'an' episode is acceptable but honestly, outside of that, they shouldn't be allowed to make a major impact, unless it involves 1 being in trouble and the other being pushed into the forefront because of that. i would even like to see that. on the other hand, thats already being taken care of next week by Sun's kidnapping.

Hurley: Hurley is a character i enjoyed the most and they're not doing anything special with him. I am more so, pissed at the weird number not playing a role in the events anymore. Nothing significant will happen with him but it would be a treat to watch him get chased by the monster.

edit: Wait: Unless the character of Libby screws up some place or hurley remembers where he saw her, he should be back in the picture. sadly, it will most probably involve him telling someone else shortly and them taking over from there.

I'll continue later.

please don't.

[spoil]Hmm it could be pornography star. It would also explain where Hurley has seen her.[/spoil]

Was just about to say something about that.

I was like, did she really just say that?

Of course it was horrible, it was delivered by Michelle Rodriguez.

It would've been less painful if *anyone* else in the cast said it.

What about Charlie?

"You hitting that, mate?"

or eko

Are you hitting that my friend?

Hurley: Uhh, you, like, hitting that, dude?
Sayid: Hitting that would be very depressing.
Jack: Tell me straight, you hitting that? *weeps*
Locke: I've been one with hitting that. It's a beautiful thing.
Mr. Eko: Do not confuse hitting that with fate.

Are they basing Charlie's life and his brother on Oasis? Even Charlie's brother is named Noel and they do fight alot, sing in a band and are brits