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Telemachos wrote:
So this coming weekend we'll see a... what, $13-16 million weekend?

Then $8-10 million the following weekend (Jan 6-8).

Then, what, the same amount over the 4-day MLK weekend?

That's $36 million (high-end), so not counting weekdays... $152 million.

$10-12 million these last holiday weekdays? $164 million.

Jan 2 - Jan 5? Add $5 million.

Jan 9 - Jan 12? Add $4 million.

$173 million -- a modest estimate, neither being super pessimistic nor super optimistic.

Where is this additional $50-60 million going to appear?


10-12 m for the holiday weekdays? I don't think so.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/char ... -27&p=.htm

That would be $3.3-4 m over the 3 weekday holidays.

Last year we had Fat Albert, coming off of a $10 m 2day weekend, doing $3.2-3.3 m each day before the New Year's weekend. Lemony, coming off of a $12.6 m weekend did $5-5.3 m over the weekdays. Ocean's 12, with a $8.4 m weekend, was able to do $2.6-2.9 m over that same time.

I think it can do alot more than $3.3-4 m each day, it could double those numbers per day.


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I expect arund $20 million for Tuesday-Thursday.

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I think it can do alot more than $3.3-4 m each day, it could double those numbers per day.


KONG has consistently gotten lower actuals than all the estimates here. First it was going to have a LOTR-ish opening day. Then it was supposed to have a giant SHREK-ish rebound. Then it was supposed to have big legs that would build up to Christmas. Then it was supposed to have a $30+ million 3-day and a $35-40 million 4-day Christmas weekend. Each time it's delivered less.

Given how it's performed so far, I highly doubt KONG will actually increase from last week's numbers (which ranged from mid $5s to high $4s).

Unless, of course, you're counting on its much acclaimed and infamous WOM.

But I've derailed the thread enough. We'll find out soon.


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I think it can do alot more than $3.3-4 m each day, it could double those numbers per day.


KONG has consistently gotten lower actuals than all the estimates here. First it was going to have a LOTR-ish opening day. Then it was supposed to have a giant SHREK-ish rebound. Then it was supposed to have big legs that would build up to Christmas. Then it was supposed to have a $30+ million 3-day and a $35-40 million 4-day Christmas weekend. Each time it's delivered less.

Given how it's performed so far, I highly doubt KONG will actually increase from last week's numbers (which ranged from mid $5s to high $4s).

Unless, of course, you're counting on its much acclaimed and infamous WOM.

But I've derailed the thread enough. We'll find out soon.


As my final point on this matter, I didn't think Kong would do a hugely impressive opening day, nor did I think it would even do $60 m for its 3day weekend before or after the Wed #'s were revealed. But what I'm stating, that Kong will have strong weekday numbers is not any kind of bias over Kong's "wom and acclaim," to be honest, I've wanted Narnia to win the year even 6 months ago, or at least get #2. It is fact that dailies between Christmas and New Year's act as if everyday is a Saturday. The numbers are there for year after year. People see movies more Post Christmas, not pre Christmas, on the weekdays. Even for bad wom films, like Lemony Snicket, which dropped from a $30 m opening, to $12.6 m (58% drop), it was able to 16-33% higher dailies after its $12.6 m weekend, than its $30 m weekend. That is the magic of holiday weekdays, everyday is a Saturday.


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I think it can do alot more than $3.3-4 m each day, it could double those numbers per day.


KONG has consistently gotten lower actuals than all the estimates here. First it was going to have a LOTR-ish opening day. Then it was supposed to have a giant SHREK-ish rebound. Then it was supposed to have big legs that would build up to Christmas. Then it was supposed to have a $30+ million 3-day and a $35-40 million 4-day Christmas weekend. Each time it's delivered less.

Given how it's performed so far, I highly doubt KONG will actually increase from last week's numbers (which ranged from mid $5s to high $4s).

Unless, of course, you're counting on its much acclaimed and infamous WOM.

But I've derailed the thread enough. We'll find out soon.


As my final point on this matter, I didn't think Kong would do a hugely impressive opening day, nor did I think it would even do $60 m for its 3day weekend before or after the Wed #'s were revealed. But what I'm stating, that Kong will have strong weekday numbers is not any kind of bias over Kong's "wom and acclaim," to be honest, I've wanted Narnia to win the year even 6 months ago, or at least get #2. It is fact that dailies between Christmas and New Year's act as if everyday is a Saturday. The numbers are there for year after year. People see movies more Post Christmas, not pre Christmas, on the weekdays. Even for bad wom films, like Lemony Snicket, which dropped from a $30 m opening, to $12.6 m (58% drop), it was able to 16-33% higher dailies after its $12.6 m weekend, than its $30 m weekend. That is the magic of holiday weekdays, everyday is a Saturday.


Well said. The period between Christmas and New Years always is fun for me being a box office lover, because all films make big bucks.

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Dr. Lecter wrote:
Well, Casanova does have an acclaimed director...

...who hasn't made a good movie in 12 years, and a great movie in 20 years...


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bradley witherberry wrote:
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Well, Casanova does have an acclaimed director...

...who hasn't made a good movie in 12 years, and a great movie in 20 years...


I loved Cider House Rules.

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The next 7 days will be lucrative to all movies including KK. That is not saying much about its performance overall other than the fact that these 7 days will keep it from being another Godzilla.

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bradley witherberry wrote:
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Well, Casanova does have an acclaimed director...

...who hasn't made a good movie in 12 years, and a great movie in 20 years...


But Chocolat was only 5 years ago. :unsure:

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The next 7 days will be lucrative to all movies including KK. That is not saying much about its performance overall other than the fact that these 7 days will keep it from being another Godzilla.


It should outgross Godzilla by Friday.

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Dr. Lecter wrote:
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The next 7 days will be lucrative to all movies including KK. That is not saying much about its performance overall other than the fact that these 7 days will keep it from being another Godzilla.


It should outgross Godzilla by Friday.


Godzilla adjusted gross is about $186M, which is where KK would have died but for the holidays.

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By the way, not sure if someone mentioned it already, but Casanova's opening 4-day PTA of around $6,000 in 37 theatres is embarassing. Just embarassing.


Casanova opened on Sunday.


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xiayun wrote:
Dr. Lecter wrote:
By the way, not sure if someone mentioned it already, but Casanova's opening 4-day PTA of around $6,000 in 37 theatres is embarassing. Just embarassing.


Casanova opened on Sunday.


Ahhh, forgot that.

Still, pretty bad considering that it would translate to probably about $13,000-14,000 for the 4-day portion.

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6 12 Memoirs of a Geisha Sony $10,200,000 +683.2% 1,547 +1,495 $6,593 $13,289,000 $85 3

Wow. What a great hold for such an expansion. 6,000+ pta for a film with 1500 theatres and three weeks running. This is performing extremely well.

11 N Munich Uni. $5,711,000 - 532 - $10,734 $5,711,000 $70 1

Should be higher. People are missing out on one of the best movies of the year.

13 23 The Producers Uni. $3,491,000 +2,158.2% 975 +969 $3,580 $3,735,000 $45 2

Not nearly as impressive under expansion as Geisha. I knew The Producers would fail to take flight.

14 8 Brokeback Mountain Focus $2,635,000 +5.0% 217 +148 $12,142 $7,573,000 $14 3

Time to start watching closely. Decent hold under 300% expansion, but not as strong as i had hoped. :-(

- N Cache SPC $82,100 - 5 - $16,420 $82,100 - 1

Nice opening. I can't wait to see this film.

61 Breakfast on Pluto SPC $68,300 +614.4% 41 +38 $1,665 $246,000 - 6

Sigh. Looks like this is the widest Pluto is going to go.

- 47 Transamerica Wein. $52,300 +156.4% 5 +2 $10,460 $179,000 - 4

Hmmmm......?


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The New World opened on Sunday and earned an estimated $67,400 in 3 theaters over 2 days. Quite disappointing, if you ask me.

The White Countess' opening is pretty poor as well.


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Dr. Lecter wrote:
bradley witherberry wrote:
Dr. Lecter wrote:
Well, Casanova does have an acclaimed director...

...who hasn't made a good movie in 12 years, and a great movie in 20 years...


I loved Cider House Rules.



I was going to say Cider House Rules too :thumbsup:


and Chocolat is decent... it didn't deserve the BP nomination at all, but I think it suffered a lot of (deserved and undeseverd) backlash because of that being now both overrated and underrated.. if that makes any sense.. it's definitely underrated in here, where critics gave 0 stars to it (no kidding) :|


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Dr. Lecter wrote:
bradley witherberry wrote:
Dr. Lecter wrote:
Well, Casanova does have an acclaimed director...

...who hasn't made a good movie in 12 years, and a great movie in 20 years...


I loved Cider House Rules.



I was going to say Cider House Rules too :thumbsup:


and Chocolat is decent... it didn't deserve the BP nomination at all, but I think it suffered a lot of (deserved and undeseverd) backlash because of that being now both overrated and underrated.. if that makes any sense..

I understand that many enjoyed Cider House Rules (though even that was already six years ago now) - but I didn't feel it captured a tenth of the novels depth. Having seen My Life as a Dog in the theatre five times when it first came out, I would say Hallström's ensuing career has been a huge disappointment to me...


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Godzilla adjusted gross is about $186M, which is where KK would have died but for the holidays.

All speculations, mingled with an unhealthy amount of bias...

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Transamerica is finally picking up.. :happy:

As for Brokeback, I like to think that it was because of a combination between Christmas (which makes people more conservative for a few days :shades: ) and the fact that most of the new theatres added were close to the theatres that were already playing the movie.. :smile:


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Dr. Lecter wrote:
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Guys you all need to take a step back and stop making box office data this huge personal battle. Its just figures, at the end of the day, Fox and Universal and Sony really could care less what any of us speculate. Theres never going to be a proven right or wrong on box office reasoning, word of mouth and general film talk because there are so many different factors that go into each that nearly every argument is valid.


If we didn't argue, these boards wouldn't exist. We are here to argue over box-office. That is the fun.


Exactly. What would you like us to talk about? The WEather? Well, if it is the film aboiut Nicholas Cage and his dying father, then great, but if it is about the lack of snow here in Toronto this year, sorry unacceptable.

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The New World opened on Sunday and earned an estimated $67,400 in 3 theaters over 2 days. Quite disappointing, if you ask me.

The White Countess' opening is pretty poor as well.


Why is there such a fascination with Terrence Malik? What film did he do that has given him a lifelong pass in the eyes of critics? Thin Red Line was one of the most pretenscious films I haev ever seen adn this one looks pretty much the same.

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baumer72 wrote:
Dr. Lecter wrote:
Michelangelo wrote:
Guys you all need to take a step back and stop making box office data this huge personal battle. Its just figures, at the end of the day, Fox and Universal and Sony really could care less what any of us speculate. Theres never going to be a proven right or wrong on box office reasoning, word of mouth and general film talk because there are so many different factors that go into each that nearly every argument is valid.


If we didn't argue, these boards wouldn't exist. We are here to argue over box-office. That is the fun.


Exactly. What would you like us to talk about? The WEather? Well, if it is the film aboiut Nicholas Cage and his dying father, then great, but if it is about the lack of snow here in Toronto this year, sorry unacceptable.

Hear, hear!

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baumer72 wrote:
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The New World opened on Sunday and earned an estimated $67,400 in 3 theaters over 2 days. Quite disappointing, if you ask me.

The White Countess' opening is pretty poor as well.


Why is there such a fascination with Marrick Mailk? What film did he do that has given him a lifelong pass in the eyes of critics? Thin Red Line was one of the most pretenscious films I haev ever seen adn this one looks pretty much the same.



I think he's overrated too.. but don't tell anyone ;)

I liked Badlands, I haven't seen/can't remember Days of Heaven and The Thin Red Line is very overrated.. there you go - 30 years in less than 30 seconds.. :tongue:


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Fantastic for WOLF CREEK. Really happy. Very solid opening for this.

Nice for KONG, NARNIA, DICK&JANE, FAMILY STONE and BROKEBACK.

Dissapointing for RUMOUR HAS IT... hopefully legs will be good.


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FWIW, it's Terrence Malick.

Also FWIW, SBD is reporting higher Monday estimates than BOM for both KONG and NARNIA.... not sure if that's been mentioned anywhere yet.


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