Friday Numbers from SBD !!!!
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DP07
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You know FWDAJ is the type to have a nice increase next weekend and a multiplier of like 7, so I don't think it's doing poorly at all. I think it will be 14th of the year.
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Sat Dec 24, 2005 7:42 pm |
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Harry Warden
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scottb wrote: movies35 wrote: If you want to be technical, KONG has a longer running time, less theaters, a higher per-screen-average and made the same amount of NARNIA. Doesn't that mean that KONG is selling more tickets? It is doing really well for itself, it's not a bomb like a lot of you are saying. I have no clue what the fuck you guys are smoking. Well Kong has a reported budget of $207m, the studio gets about half the money made at the box office (perhaps less if any of the cast and crew have a backend deal) so King Kong will have to make at least $415m at the box office for Universal to make any money off of it.
Kong is bound to sell very well on DVD, especially with all the special features that'll be on it, such as Peter Jackson's production diaries.
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Sat Dec 24, 2005 7:51 pm |
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zingy
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You know, I think people are disappointed with Kong because it's getting beat out by Narnia. If we didn't compare the two, Kong doesn't look so bad. It did have a better increase into Friday, after all. Kong's doing fine. It's still making $200 million.
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Sat Dec 24, 2005 7:52 pm |
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
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Yes, KK will see 200m on DVD IMO, of which the studio will get 150m, so it will easily be extremely profitable once all the other revenues come in.
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Sat Dec 24, 2005 7:53 pm |
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Bradley Witherberry
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DP07 wrote: Yes, KK will see 200m on DVD IMO, of which the studio will get 150m, so it will easily be extremely profitable once all the other revenues come in.
I don't doubt it will be profitable for the studio when all is said and done, but I would be willing to bet that what you are describing would not fit the studio's definition of extremely profitable...
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Sat Dec 24, 2005 8:14 pm |
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DP07
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bradley witherberry wrote: DP07 wrote: Yes, KK will see 200m on DVD IMO, of which the studio will get 150m, so it will easily be extremely profitable once all the other revenues come in. I don't doubt it will be profitable for the studio when all is said and done, but I would be willing to bet that what you are describing would not fit the studio's definition of extremely profitable...
350m+ in revenues when all is said and done on the domestic side. That will cover the budget and marketing plus provide a 75m+ profit. Then there will be the profits from overseas.
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Sat Dec 24, 2005 8:18 pm |
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Bradley Witherberry
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DP07 wrote: bradley witherberry wrote: DP07 wrote: Yes, KK will see 200m on DVD IMO, of which the studio will get 150m, so it will easily be extremely profitable once all the other revenues come in. I don't doubt it will be profitable for the studio when all is said and done, but I would be willing to bet that what you are describing would not fit the studio's definition of extremely profitable... 350m+ in revenues when all is said and done on the domestic side. That will cover the budget and marketing plus provide a 75m+ profit. Then there will be the profits from overseas.
I just find it hard to imagine the Universal executives gathered around the board table during the first week of December, receiving their various projections for the holiday movie season, and one stands up and says, "If King Kong is extremely profitable we might see as much as $75 million domestic plus overseas profits".
I kinda envision them falling asleep with visions of sugar plums dancing in their heads...
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Sat Dec 24, 2005 8:28 pm |
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zingy
College Boy Z
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I'd rather be in the blue (profit) than in the red (loss), no matter how much the blue is.
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Sat Dec 24, 2005 8:44 pm |
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Tyler
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Zingaling wrote: I'd rather be in the blue (profit) than in the red (loss), no matter how much the blue is.
I thought the expression for profit was "in the black".
Kong will pass its budget without much trouble. The real threshold now is passing WOTW.
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Sat Dec 24, 2005 8:49 pm |
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
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Zingaling wrote: You know, I think people are disappointed with Kong because it's getting beat out by Narnia. If we didn't compare the two, Kong doesn't look so bad. It did have a better increase into Friday, after all. Kong's doing fine. It's still making $200 million.
I mean, do we REALLY know for a fact that KONG will be making 200 Million???
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Sat Dec 24, 2005 8:57 pm |
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mdana
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bradley witherberry wrote: DP07 wrote: bradley witherberry wrote: DP07 wrote: Yes, KK will see 200m on DVD IMO, of which the studio will get 150m, so it will easily be extremely profitable once all the other revenues come in. I don't doubt it will be profitable for the studio when all is said and done, but I would be willing to bet that what you are describing would not fit the studio's definition of extremely profitable... 350m+ in revenues when all is said and done on the domestic side. That will cover the budget and marketing plus provide a 75m+ profit. Then there will be the profits from overseas. I just find it hard to imagine the Universal executives gathered around the board table during the first week of December, receiving their various projections for the holiday movie season, and one stands up and says, "If King Kong is extremely profitable we might see as much as $75 million domestic plus overseas profits". I kinda envision them falling asleep with visions of sugar plums dancing in their heads...
We never know the exact intracies of movies budgets and production contracts. Jackson's contract, might have had stipulations that if certain conditions weren't met ($250m domestic, whatever) that he had to pay back the studio $10m or something. I know Cameron had a deal like that with Titanic, he got so fed up he told them to keep all the money (they were trying to get him to pay them back before it was released). I remember reading baseball free agents would sign contracts back in the late 70s and they would trumpted Rod Carew signs $2.4m 8 year deal!! Then if you looked at it Carew had to hit 40 home runs (which he was never going to do),the Angels had to win the division, etc. Therotically it was worth $2.4m, but Carew was really getting paid around $1.6m for the 8 years.
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Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:01 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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DP07 wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: Memoirs of a Geisha is in for a really good weekend. As xiayun has said before, it might not suffer a huge decline on Christmas Eve and will have a good weekend multiplier. I expect around $11-11.5 million for the 4-day weekend. With a good hold next weekend and probably decent legs (even The Phantom of the Opera had good legs), I can see it reaching $50+ million. Would be weird if it actually managed to outdo Brokeback Mountain despite its bashing by the critics. I think it's pretty much a lock. With an increase certain next weekend I don't see how it can fall shy of 40m, and I don't see Brokeback getting that high.
Well, movies like Brokeback Mountain benefit from Oscar buzz the most so when it gets plentiful of noms in January, expect it to get a huge boost. I expect Brokeback Mountain to at least pass $45 million.
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Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:46 pm |
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zingy
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BKB_The_Man wrote: Zingaling wrote: You know, I think people are disappointed with Kong because it's getting beat out by Narnia. If we didn't compare the two, Kong doesn't look so bad. It did have a better increase into Friday, after all. Kong's doing fine. It's still making $200 million. I mean, do we REALLY know for a fact that KONG will be making 200 Million???
Yeah, we do.
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Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:48 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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DP07 wrote: You know FWDAJ is the type to have a nice increase next weekend and a multiplier of like 7, so I don't think it's doing poorly at all. I think it will be 14th of the year.
Hmmm, I wouldn't really go that far, but I see a nice $115-120 million gross for it, so more like #16 of the year.
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Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:48 pm |
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mark66
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Nothing is set in stone yet... ALI opened Christmas Day with $10.2m (setting a Christmas Day opening record in 2001), yet it made only $58.2m altogether...
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Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:57 pm |
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Excel
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what are we loking for a 3 day for kong?
fri-8.2
sat.6
sun-16?
thatd be 32.
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Sun Dec 25, 2005 1:17 am |
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zingy
College Boy Z
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excel wrote: what are we loking for a 3 day for kong?
fri-8.2 sat.6 sun-16? thatd be 32.
It won't jump that much on Christmas day.
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Sun Dec 25, 2005 1:19 am |
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Excel
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i honestly have no idea really, though id think itll be atleast a 30 million weekend.
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Sun Dec 25, 2005 1:26 am |
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thompsoncory
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Zingaling wrote: BKB_The_Man wrote: Zingaling wrote: You know, I think people are disappointed with Kong because it's getting beat out by Narnia. If we didn't compare the two, Kong doesn't look so bad. It did have a better increase into Friday, after all. Kong's doing fine. It's still making $200 million. I mean, do we REALLY know for a fact that KONG will be making 200 Million???Yeah, we do.
Agreed. It's definitely a lock.
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Sun Dec 25, 2005 1:44 am |
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xiayun
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The gross for each film won't be much higher on Christmas Day than on Friday because the early matinee business for Christmas Day will likely be dead because people will be all sleeping from partying and drinking the day before. That's why I realized what Jeff said is no doubt true: Monday gross will be highest by far out of the four days.
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Sun Dec 25, 2005 2:33 am |
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
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thompsoncory wrote: Zingaling wrote: BKB_The_Man wrote: Zingaling wrote: You know, I think people are disappointed with Kong because it's getting beat out by Narnia. If we didn't compare the two, Kong doesn't look so bad. It did have a better increase into Friday, after all. Kong's doing fine. It's still making $200 million. I mean, do we REALLY know for a fact that KONG will be making 200 Million???Yeah, we do. Agreed. It's definitely a lock.
Oh for heaven sakes, IT IS NOT A LOCK.. This movie was supposed to be a so called LOCK to tear the box office up and eat NARNIA for breakfast because it had Peter Jackson's name attached to it and now, it's doing so pathetically on a day to day basis, that it's being compared to GODZILLA and The HULK.. Yeah, that's the LOCK were all looking for isn't it?? Bottom Line: Seeing Friday's numbers points this movie to at best, a 25 or 26 Million weekend for 3 days and probably less than 35 Million for a 4 day and that Ladies and Gentlemen is downright and you know it is..
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Sun Dec 25, 2005 5:13 am |
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BJ
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Narnia Rocks all 
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Sun Dec 25, 2005 5:38 am |
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DP07
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Dr. Lecter wrote: DP07 wrote: You know FWDAJ is the type to have a nice increase next weekend and a multiplier of like 7, so I don't think it's doing poorly at all. I think it will be 14th of the year. Hmmm, I wouldn't really go that far, but I see a nice $115-120 million gross for it, so more like #16 of the year.
It depends largely one what it does Sunday I suppose. I'm expecting a huge increase to give it an 18m weekend. With a multiplier of over 7 it could near 140m. That might be a bit bullish, but I do think it can have an increase of 25% next weekend.
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Sun Dec 25, 2005 7:03 am |
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Kris K
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C'mon BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN!!!  Loves it.
Nice again for KONG.
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Sun Dec 25, 2005 9:15 am |
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android
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Well, let's just say that Brokeback's target audience was at the mall doing some late shopping..
and let's face it... this isn't a Christmas movie.. even though it's about love, this is the least "holiday film" out there right now -you really see people going to see this at this time? only special people like us would do that..  it should pick up next monday, hopefully.. 
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Sun Dec 25, 2005 10:15 am |
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