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What grade would you give this film?
A 38%  38%  [ 15 ]
B 38%  38%  [ 15 ]
C 10%  10%  [ 4 ]
D 5%  5%  [ 2 ]
F 8%  8%  [ 3 ]
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Dr. Lecter wrote:
Ah, seems like Cyn sometimes actually listens to me too :P

No, seriously, it was not 21 Grams, surely not. But it was a family drama, the trailers made it seem like pure slapstick with the whole family terrorizing SJP. In fact the movie is about the strong bond this family has and about the fragility of its memmebers and a strong-willed and loving mother who holds them together.

I still can't grasp that SJP was nominated at the GG's, but Keaton and Nelson weren't. For shame.


Exactly, the trialres made me thinkt he terrorixing was more along hte lines of Meet the Parents, when really the family is har don her but she also shows little sensitivity, so its not stright drama or straight comedy.

Seriously, Parker character is one of the more stereotypical people in the film, and they nominate her over Keaton, wtf. Parker was fine but she about the last person i would nominate in the film.

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Ripper wrote:
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Ah, seems like Cyn sometimes actually listens to me too :P

No, seriously, it was not 21 Grams, surely not. But it was a family drama, the trailers made it seem like pure slapstick with the whole family terrorizing SJP. In fact the movie is about the strong bond this family has and about the fragility of its memmebers and a strong-willed and loving mother who holds them together.

I still can't grasp that SJP was nominated at the GG's, but Keaton and Nelson weren't. For shame.


Exactly, the trialres made me thinkt he terrorixing was more along hte lines of Meet the Parents, when really the family is har don her but she also shows little sensitivity, so its not stright drama or straight comedy.

Seriously, Parker character is one of the more stereotypical people in the film, and they nominate her over Keaton, wtf. Parker was fine but she about the last person i would nominate in the film.

edit: In spite of your Crash love I still listen to you ;)


Parker probably got nominated because her category was weak, Keaton and Nelson had to compete with more people.


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Yeah...but Keaton just was THAT good.

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Its not Schindler's List.

My point is, its marketed as haha Jim carrey funny, and evne though its a good movie if peopel expect that and instead the get a smart film that has a good combination of comedy and drama it coudl lead to bad WOM...if people expect one thing and get another they could complain. As I left the theater i heard alot of "that was good but not what I expected, or i thought it would be funnier." If I saw the trailer an dnot much else, i would have thought this was a MtP style comedy staring Parker, and that's not how'd I describe the film.

In fact, if I had not heard from Lecter that movie was more serioes then potrayed i would not have bothered to see it opening weekend.


I know what you're saying, and I actually agree about the marketing making it appear to be light fluff when it does have substance to it. (which is actually what makes it a top 5 film for me this year!) I still think to this day that if my precious Hulk had not been marketed as a Hulk smash type film it would have been better recieved by adults and some teens. Not getting what you pay for has a way of pissing a person off. I still think it has enough laughs to qualify as more of a comedy, but it's not as big of a comedy as the ads present it as. It's much more comedy than a dramedy like Spanglish or something.

BTW...nobody answered my question about Rachel McAdams! :mad:


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What was your question Mav?

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What was your question Mav?


Is it just me, or does she command the screen better than any actress working today? Seriously, she steals every scene she's in. You can't help but focus on her. Am I the only one who sees this?


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McAdams was good, but Nelson and Keagon overshadowed her. I think Keaton was the best, then Nelson and then McAdams and Wilson were equal.

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Maverikk wrote:
Is it just me, or does she command the screen better than any actress working today?
No, not really ANY actress.
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Seriously, she steals every scene she's in.
That's cuz she tends to act next to a bunch of mediocrity...
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...and cuz she's incredibly hot.
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Am I the only one who sees this?
Seriously, though, she's definitely a talented actress...I just dunno that I think as highly of her as you. Still early, though, since I've only seen 3 or 4 of her films.


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I love McAdams but I agree that most likely the reason people tend to focus on her is because she's attractive and likeable (even while being mean, if that makes any sense). What's her next movie?


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I love McAdams but I agree that most likely the reason people tend to focus on her is because she's attractive and likeable (even while being mean, if that makes any sense). What's her next movie?


She doesn't have anything planned yet.


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I love McAdams but I agree that most likely the reason people tend to focus on her is because she's attractive and likeable (even while being mean, if that makes any sense). What's her next movie?


She doesn't have anything planned yet.


She'd better hurry and strike while the iron is still hot. She really cannot afford to take a multi-year break from films yet. She's not established enough to do that.


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Joe wrote:
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Joe wrote:
I love McAdams but I agree that most likely the reason people tend to focus on her is because she's attractive and likeable (even while being mean, if that makes any sense). What's her next movie?


She doesn't have anything planned yet.


She'd better hurry and strike while the iron is still hot. She really cannot afford to take a multi-year break from films yet. She's not established enough to do that.


I doubt she's going to take a multi-year break. Give the girl a break, she just did three movies in a row.


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Libs wrote:
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Libs wrote:
Joe wrote:
I love McAdams but I agree that most likely the reason people tend to focus on her is because she's attractive and likeable (even while being mean, if that makes any sense). What's her next movie?


She doesn't have anything planned yet.


She'd better hurry and strike while the iron is still hot. She really cannot afford to take a multi-year break from films yet. She's not established enough to do that.


I doubt she's going to take a multi-year break. Give the girl a break, she just did three movies in a row.


She actually filmed them not all that close to one another.


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On Rachel McAdams, it is wierd that she has no future movies even lined up as usually actors have a bunch signed for the future.

Maybe based on her sudden rise she wants to take a break or needs a rest

or

as I heard she was dating her notebook co-star, maybe she is in LOVE and she is thinking more of guys or other things than movies.

got this on a quick web search for anyone who wants proof >

Welcome to Made For Eachother. This is the one and only fanlisting for the real life relationship between the actors, Ryan Gosling and Rachel McAdams. Ryan and Rachel starred in the hit movie, The Notebook, together.


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On Rachel McAdams, it is wierd that she has no future movies even lined up as usually actors have a bunch signed for the future.

Maybe based on her sudden rise she wants to take a break or needs a rest

or

as I heard she was dating her notebook co-star, maybe she is in LOVE and she is thinking more of guys or other things than movies.

got this on a quick web search for anyone who wants proof >

Welcome to Made For Eachother. This is the one and only fanlisting for the real life relationship between the actors, Ryan Gosling and Rachel McAdams. Ryan and Rachel starred in the hit movie, The Notebook, together.


I heard Gosling and McAdams are getting married. That explains why their on-screen chemisty in 'The Notebook' was so good.


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I am not sure how anyone can say that the trailer only implied this was a comedy > bi deal that didn't give all secerts / twists but what movie does.

some examples on the trailer

- you have the scene where SJP says I don't care if you like it > could tell someone is looking for acceptance > so where was the comedy here.

- and when the two brothers are fighting and chasing each other as one brothers steals the other brother's girlfriend or finacee > sounds more serious than comedy.

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Goldie, no one denies that you thought it wasnt a comedy. (Have yuo seen it, btw? What did you think? If not, check it out, you'd prolly like it.)

It's just that, to most of us, the trailer was straight up dumb comedy type, complete with three ladies slipping on a christmas breakfast thing. When we see that, and all you really get out of it is that its about a fiancee not being accepted into her future husband's family, all that, plus the fact that its edited very much like a comedy film would be (highlighting all the one liners and such and not much of the heavy stuff), people just tend to assume 'oh, hey, looks like a comedy.' Plus, did you ever see this trailer with a crowd? It got tons of laffs...(i dont laff at movies anymore, so i wouldnt really know.) The bottom line is, the trailers seemed far lighter than the final film came out to be.


All that said, I am partly in agreement with Maverikk. (didnt i already say this in this thread? if so, i cant find it, stop me when i get repetitve.) I definitely see this as a comedy moreso than a drama, and i DO think the comedy is more prevelant than the seriousness. Even when it does get into some deep waters, there always tends to be something there to bring it out of the "omg, wow, that was depressing'' kinda mood into a ''wow, yknow, they handled that really well and still managed to make me not feel horrible."

I guess thats what it comes down to for me...it defintiely has plenty of substance and is certainly not wall to wall laughs, but it is handled in such a way that i never felt "this is a drama" and it ends up one of the more funny films of the year.


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Goldie, no one denies that you thought it wasnt a comedy. (Have yuo seen it, btw? What did you think? If not, check it out, you'd prolly like it.)

It's just that, to most of us, the trailer was straight up dumb comedy type, complete with three ladies slipping on a christmas breakfast thing. When we see that, and all you really get out of it is that its about a fiancee not being accepted into her future husband's family, all that, plus the fact that its edited very much like a comedy film would be (highlighting all the one liners and such and not much of the heavy stuff), people just tend to assume 'oh, hey, looks like a comedy.' Plus, did you ever see this trailer with a crowd? It got tons of laffs...(i dont laff at movies anymore, so i wouldnt really know.) The bottom line is, the trailers seemed far lighter than the final film came out to be.

All that said, I am partly in agreement with Maverikk. (didnt i already say this in this thread? if so, i cant find it, stop me when i get repetitve.) I definitely see this as a comedy moreso than a drama, and i DO think the comedy is more prevelant than the seriousness. Even when it does get into some deep waters, there always tends to be something there to bring it out of the "omg, wow, that was depressing'' kinda mood into a ''wow, yknow, they handled that really well and still managed to make me not feel horrible."

I guess thats what it comes down to for me...it defintiely has plenty of substance and is certainly not wall to wall laughs, but it is handled in such a way that i never felt "this is a drama" and it ends up one of the more funny films of the year.


Yes I saw it and I don't think the final film was that heavy.

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Just FYI - I am really argueing both sides saying that this was pretty close to be down the middle.

- This film was not serious - even though the Keaton scenes were touching.

- The film was not comedy as it had its share of straight-forward scenes / moments.

- I think this was a nice romantic Xmas holiday family movie that had both serious & comedy elements included.


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An excellent film, that I'll gladly watch again next Christmas on DVD. It's certainly going to be far different from my usual Christmas watching, but I'm glad it's different. I'm glad that the film is part drama, part comedy. There's so much to enjoy here. People might think I'd love this because of Rachel McAdams, but there is so much more to enjoy about this film than just her. Just from the actors, I really loved seeing Craig T. Nelson and think he does a magnificent job. I liked Sarah Jessica Parker, and while the nomination may not be as deserving as someone else, she stood tall next to the talented cast. Diane Keaton is great, but I don't think she's the best part of the cast. I think for the most part, the entire cast stands out.

My biggest qualm with the film is exactly what Ripper found wrong, and that's the scene near the end between Parker, Keaton and McAdams. After a fairly dramatic scene, the film transitions into a scene you'd find in your typical comedy, such as "Meet the Parents". While I thought "Meet the Parents" was a decent effort in the comedy department, "The Family Stone" surely exceeds that in every way, but the only reason I compare the two is due to the marketing. Stupid marketing campaign.

I ramble. The verdict? It's good! It's very good! Grade: A/A-

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My comments on Rachel McAdams, and I'd like to know what you guys think. Is it just me, or does she command the screen better than any actress working today? Seriously, she steals every scene she's in. You can't help but focus on her. Am I the only one who sees this?


I think its just you and a few sheep (mostly teenage girls, USWeekly editors, and gay men).

I think she's an okay actress, nothing more, nothing less.


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An excellent film, that I'll gladly watch again next Christmas on DVD. It's certainly going to be far different from my usual Christmas watching, but I'm glad it's different. I'm glad that the film is part drama, part comedy. There's so much to enjoy here. People might think I'd love this because of Rachel McAdams, but there is so much more to enjoy about this film than just her. Just from the actors, I really loved seeing Craig T. Nelson and think he does a magnificent job. I liked Sarah Jessica Parker, and while the nomination may not be as deserving as someone else, she stood tall next to the talented cast. Diane Keaton is great, but I don't think she's the best part of the cast. I think for the most part, the entire cast stands out.

My biggest qualm with the film is exactly what Ripper found wrong, and that's the scene near the end between Parker, Keaton and McAdams. After a fairly dramatic scene, the film transitions into a scene you'd find in your typical comedy, such as "Meet the Parents". While I thought "Meet the Parents" was a decent effort in the comedy department, "The Family Stone" surely exceeds that in every way, but the only reason I compare the two is due to the marketing. Stupid marketing campaign.

I ramble. The verdict? It's good! It's very good! Grade: A/A-



Yes, I agree that scene had some comedy > but remember how that scene ended > there were Keaton's words which gave Parker acceptance and brought Parker into the family. Parker just thought again that she was being made fun of and goes off into the kitchen where that accident happens.

But I remember Keaton and Parker words as much as the scene > what is so great about you guys > nothing, we just have each other plus Keaton said something else nice about Parker said that I forget.

Just to me, this movie had a great mix.


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I think McAdams is a fine actress, just not the absolute best thing since sliced bread that many praise her to be. Her performance in The Family Stone was impressive.

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I think McAdams is a fine actress, just not the absolute best thing since sliced bread that many praise her to be. Her performance in The Family Stone was impressive.


well before the movie came out she ran away in the most looking forward to seeing.

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and if you think her performance was impressive, a pretty stong word, others are just praising her differently.


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No, many others have always praised her just as much before this movie came out and seem to be willing to give her an Oscar anyday.

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No, many others have always praised her just as much before this movie came out and seem to be willing to give her an Oscar anyday.


well you have to remember she have been in people's favorites like the Notebook and Mean Girls.

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just because people are praising her and saying that they love her performances, on -screen presence, etc that is nothing like giving her an Oscar. Think there is a big difference between those 2 areas. ( Think your statement should be applied much more closly to Knightley )


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