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BacktotheFuture
I'm Batman
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:53 pm Posts: 5554 Location: Long Island
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Star Wars wrote: Cleric wrote: Star Wars wrote: Amos wrote: Star Wars wrote: ChipMunky wrote: Oh snap... how could I have been so foolish... the reason they didn't try and get any other monster was because... *gasp* thats not what they did in the original!
I win I am going to make a remake of King Kong in 2033 (as the 100 year anniversary) and I am going to make King Kong fight Dinosaurs for the whole movie. Godzilla would also make a cameo appearance and kill Kong. I will spit on the original movie as well for being so bad. I'd probably watch that if it wasn't much longer than an hour. IMAX maybe?  Yup, IMAX of course. And it won't be too long (about 45 minutes) because I will skip all that "romantic BS" and the only humans in the movie will be ones that are either eaten or ripped a half by Kong. From the guy that wants character development...... Well, I want character development with actual CHARACTERS. Not some old guy hitting on a hot girl. That's not "fatherly." Well... for some people it is (sadly). My movie would have no characters except for a few humans just there to be killed.
I want a script by Monday.
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:08 am |
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Star Wars
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:18 pm Posts: 1638 Location: Alderaan
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BacktotheFuture wrote: Star Wars wrote: Cleric wrote: Star Wars wrote: Amos wrote: Star Wars wrote: ChipMunky wrote: Oh snap... how could I have been so foolish... the reason they didn't try and get any other monster was because... *gasp* thats not what they did in the original!
I win I am going to make a remake of King Kong in 2033 (as the 100 year anniversary) and I am going to make King Kong fight Dinosaurs for the whole movie. Godzilla would also make a cameo appearance and kill Kong. I will spit on the original movie as well for being so bad. I'd probably watch that if it wasn't much longer than an hour. IMAX maybe?  Yup, IMAX of course. And it won't be too long (about 45 minutes) because I will skip all that "romantic BS" and the only humans in the movie will be ones that are either eaten or ripped a half by Kong. From the guy that wants character development...... Well, I want character development with actual CHARACTERS. Not some old guy hitting on a hot girl. That's not "fatherly." Well... for some people it is (sadly). My movie would have no characters except for a few humans just there to be killed. I want a script by Monday.
Already done in fact.
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:21 am |
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BacktotheFuture
I'm Batman
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:53 pm Posts: 5554 Location: Long Island
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Can you show the finished product?
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:22 am |
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Star Wars
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:18 pm Posts: 1638 Location: Alderaan
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BacktotheFuture wrote: Can you show the finished product?
Promise you won't steal any of my ideas? This is first draft by the way, there will be rewrites.
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:24 am |
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BacktotheFuture
I'm Batman
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:53 pm Posts: 5554 Location: Long Island
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Star Wars wrote: BacktotheFuture wrote: Can you show the finished product? Promise you won't steal any idea's? This is first draft by the way, there will be rewrites.
I have no plans on writing any Hollywood scripts in the future.
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:25 am |
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Star Wars
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:18 pm Posts: 1638 Location: Alderaan
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BacktotheFuture wrote: Star Wars wrote: BacktotheFuture wrote: Can you show the finished product? Promise you won't steal any idea's? This is first draft by the way, there will be rewrites. I have no plans on writing any Hollywood scripts in the future.
Lol I will PM you it then in a few minutes (after I make a few spell checks).
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:27 am |
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BacktotheFuture
I'm Batman
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:53 pm Posts: 5554 Location: Long Island
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Excellent. I'll probably read it tomorrow seeing as how I got some work to do. Should be interesting to see your take on Kong after reading your opinions on the flick.
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:30 am |
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MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:28 pm Posts: 10266 Location: Mordor, Middle Earth
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Loyal, I demand you post your review now. Or at least send the rough copy to me via PM so I can read it! I must read it now. Pretty please...
PEACE, Mike.
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:41 am |
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Cleric
Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 2:48 am Posts: 409 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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I could have swore it was a joke you wanted to see a script...How many pages, 1 maybe 2? You have no characters...
Kong eats person one
Kong eats person two
Person Three: Help
Kong eats person three
T-Rex: growl
Kong kills T-Rex
Kong eats last person
The End
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:44 am |
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Star Wars
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:18 pm Posts: 1638 Location: Alderaan
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Cleric wrote: I could have swore it was a joke you wanted to see a script...How many pages, 1 maybe 2? You have no characters...
Kong eats person one Kong eats person two Person Three: Help Kong eats person three T-Rex: growl Kong kills T-Rex Kong eats last person The End
Actually it's a little longer than that. There's a ton of twists and awesome stuff if in (such as cameo appearances by Yoda, Godzilla, Austin Powers to increase the action, etc. etc.)
But this is just a first draft so it's not that good... yet.
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:50 am |
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Amos
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:54 pm Posts: 1585 Location: New Zealand
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BacktotheFuture wrote: Can you show the finished product?
OMG!!!!11! This was leaked by SUPERSHADOW:
FADE IN:
EXT. DAGOBAH - DUSK
Sunlight glimmers over the tree tops. The wind is still. Birds sing in the trees. Tilt down to DINOSAURS DEVOURING EACH OTHERS GUTS AND TEARING EACH OTHER TO PIECES.
Then - KONG appears, and JOINS IN. This GOES ON FOR HALF AN HOUR and is AWESOME.
INT. FISHING BOAT {BLACK & WHITE SEQUENCE / LONG TAKE}
OLD GUY OUTSIDE THEATRE
I'll never see you again. I am dying.
SENOR SPIELBERGO
I'm a fully-developed sorrowful and anxst-filled character. You leave me with no choice, I must go to Dagobah.
DISSOLVE TO:
SOMETHING, which BLOWS UP in 3D.
INSERT: A red room, where a MIDGET speaks backwards to KYLE McLACHLAN.
EXT. DAGOBAH - DUSK
SENOR SPIELBERGO and his band of merry MEXICANS land by a SWAMP. TRACK alongside YODA as they ALL DIE GRUESOME DEATHS.
MONTAGE, set to DISCO MUSIC:
1. A MEXICAN dies.
2. Another MEXICAN dies differently.
3. A BLACK MAN escapes from a T-REX.
4. Third MEXICAN used by BLACK MAN as a shield as KONG THROWS BOULDERS AT THEM. This BLACK MAN is LL COOL J. He gets away in his PUSSYWAGON, driven by AUSTIN POWERS.
5. Senor Spielbergo runs into a cave, only to find it is actually the MOUTH of GODZILLA.
GODZILLA fights KONG for THE REST OF THE MOVIE. KONG eventually realises GODZILLA did galaxy a favour by ensuring no more F movies and falls on his LIGHTSABRE for an HONORABLE DEATH. He is inserted as a GHOST into the 3-D version of RETURN OF THE JEDI.
FADE TO BLACK
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:56 am |
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Sorry Amos, but that is completly unrealistic. Merry Mexicans? Yeah, right, like they exist. 
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:02 am |
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40589
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Maverikk wrote: loyalfromlondon wrote: ChipMunky wrote: loyalfromlondon wrote: Mav, you're going to die when you read my review. I wrote it this morning but it hasn't been edited yet for the main site.
I struggled with the word cheesy but I eventually found the word I was looking for. Is the word... Amazing??? Not exactly. I look forward to it. Squee, I'm still unsure. For now it's a B+ but could slip, if for no other reason than because I wanted an A and it fell short of that. Most things like WOTW and Batman Begins were B's.
You've got to be kidding me. Don't even pretend.
You KNOW that you've been in the top 2 badmouthers of this movie. After all you've said, with your bias, theres no way you would've gaven this movie an A.
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:17 am |
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lilmac
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I loved the film and am still awestruck from what I saw onscreen. The one Oscar worthy performance was Andy Serkis. Unbelievable physical actor!
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:46 am |
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Mr. Reynolds
Confessing on a Dance Floor
Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:46 am Posts: 5578 Location: Celebratin' in Chitown
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lilmac wrote: I loved the film and am still awestruck from what I saw onscreen. The one Oscar worthy performance was Andy Serkis. Unbelievable physical actor!
what did he do? i dont remember seeing gollum in the movie?
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:48 am |
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Box
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:52 am Posts: 25990
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I_Was_Your_Sam wrote: lilmac wrote: I loved the film and am still awestruck from what I saw onscreen. The one Oscar worthy performance was Andy Serkis. Unbelievable physical actor! what did he do? i dont remember seeing gollum in the movie?
He was King Kong, lol. He's the actor behind the beast!
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Mr. Reynolds
Confessing on a Dance Floor
Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:46 am Posts: 5578 Location: Celebratin' in Chitown
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Box wrote: I_Was_Your_Sam wrote: lilmac wrote: I loved the film and am still awestruck from what I saw onscreen. The one Oscar worthy performance was Andy Serkis. Unbelievable physical actor! what did he do? i dont remember seeing gollum in the movie? He was King Kong, lol. He's the actor behind the beast!
LOL no way! i seriously did not know that. haha nice. poor guy. will he ever get an acting gig that shows us what he looks like
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:51 am |
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MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:28 pm Posts: 10266 Location: Mordor, Middle Earth
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I_Was_Your_Sam wrote: Box wrote: I_Was_Your_Sam wrote: lilmac wrote: I loved the film and am still awestruck from what I saw onscreen. The one Oscar worthy performance was Andy Serkis. Unbelievable physical actor! what did he do? i dont remember seeing gollum in the movie? He was King Kong, lol. He's the actor behind the beast! LOL no way! i seriously did not know that. haha nice. poor guy. will he ever get an acting gig that shows us what he looks like
He was Lumpy the Cook!
Did you not pay attention at all? Hehe. And I haven't even seen the film yet and I know that. Hehe.
PEACE, Mike.
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:55 am |
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Amos
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:54 pm Posts: 1585 Location: New Zealand
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I_Was_Your_Sam wrote: Box wrote: I_Was_Your_Sam wrote: lilmac wrote: I loved the film and am still awestruck from what I saw onscreen. The one Oscar worthy performance was Andy Serkis. Unbelievable physical actor! what did he do? i dont remember seeing gollum in the movie? He was King Kong, lol. He's the actor behind the beast! LOL no way! i seriously did not know that. haha nice. poor guy. will he ever get an acting gig that shows us what he looks like
He played the guy who
[spoil]got his head swallowed by a grotesque tube-like bug[/spoil]
as well.
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Christian
Team Kris
Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:02 pm Posts: 27584 Location: The Damage Control Table
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I_Was_Your_Sam wrote: Box wrote: I_Was_Your_Sam wrote: lilmac wrote: I loved the film and am still awestruck from what I saw onscreen. The one Oscar worthy performance was Andy Serkis. Unbelievable physical actor! what did he do? i dont remember seeing gollum in the movie? He was King Kong, lol. He's the actor behind the beast! LOL no way! i seriously did not know that. haha nice. poor guy. will he ever get an acting gig that shows us what he looks like
Don't you remember him from the classic 13 Going on 30???
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insomniacdude
I just lost the game
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BacktotheFuture wrote: Star Wars wrote: Cleric wrote: Star Wars wrote: Amos wrote: Star Wars wrote: ChipMunky wrote: Oh snap... how could I have been so foolish... the reason they didn't try and get any other monster was because... *gasp* thats not what they did in the original!
I win I am going to make a remake of King Kong in 2033 (as the 100 year anniversary) and I am going to make King Kong fight Dinosaurs for the whole movie. Godzilla would also make a cameo appearance and kill Kong. I will spit on the original movie as well for being so bad. I'd probably watch that if it wasn't much longer than an hour. IMAX maybe?  Yup, IMAX of course. And it won't be too long (about 45 minutes) because I will skip all that "romantic BS" and the only humans in the movie will be ones that are either eaten or ripped a half by Kong. From the guy that wants character development...... Well, I want character development with actual CHARACTERS. Not some old guy hitting on a hot girl. That's not "fatherly." Well... for some people it is (sadly). My movie would have no characters except for a few humans just there to be killed. I want a script by Monday.
He already has one....you most of missed it....
"I am going to make a remake of King Kong in 2033 (as the 100 year anniversary) and I am going to make King Kong fight Dinosaurs for the whole movie. Godzilla would also make a cameo appearance and kill Kong. I will spit on the original movie as well for being so bad."
That's about as much script as one would need for this anyway.
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Bradley Witherberry
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Well I have seen the much vaunted newest version of King Kong and I must say I feel like the boy who said "The Emperor has no clothes!"...
This movie is not just bad, it is pitiful. Peter Jackson can't tell a story worth a damn. Not only that, if you planning on seeing this movie just for the special effects - well, they're surprisingly lame too. For example, anytime Kong is holding Naomi Watts in his hand, any suspension of disbelief is immediately reinstated. All of the actors are miscast - even Watts. If Jackson was truly inspired by the original version of King Kong, then he completely misunderstood it - this is a botched job.
The fanboys are going to eat this up for a couple weeks, but the general public is not going to put up with three tedious hours of Jackson's juvenile interpretation of King Kong - and forget what people are saying about the first hour being boring - the whole enchilada is slack. Fortunately, the reign of Peter Jackson will be a short-lived one now that he has ruined adaptations of two all-time classic source materials. In five years, this guy's going to be back to making low budget horror movies.
I know that some people will reject my review as biased and unfair, but as a lover of movies, I swear that what I have said is true. In the fullness of time, those blinded by the hype will come to see the light.
1 out of 5.
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:07 am |
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choubachou
Indiana Jones IV
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Maverikk wrote: King Kong is academy award winning filmmaker Peter Jackson's followup to his Lord of the Rings trilogy, the highly anticipated remake of the classic film about a giant monkey that shocked audiences and blazed a trail for filmmakers in the special effects department in 1933. One of the first big popcorn type movies.
Of course, this isn't the first time King Kong has been remade, as the 1976 version starring Jeff Bridges, a young and hot Jessica Lange, and the World Trade center in it's first featured role in the movies proceeded it. The 76 remake is not without it's charms, but could never eclispe the original.
Peter Jackson's new 3 hour and 7 minute version is quite ambitious, but it doesn't reach the classic level, and some of it's flaws keep it away from what could have been. I think it was brilliant of PJ to make it a period piece, as modern day forces could restrain Kong from ever breaking free, and if he did, it would be over quick for him. The casting of Naomi Watts was great, as she is excellent reprising the role that Fay Wray will always be immoralized by. Though not an Oscar type of performance, she holds the screen well. Kong as a character was the real star for me, as his emotion came through fine. My favorite scene in the movie was when Kong would knock her over and laugh about it as he played with his new toy. By the end, I believed in both of their characters and how they felt for eachother.
Unfortunately, the same came be said about the relationship with Adrien Brody. Their relationship was incredibly forced, and instead of trying to introduce meaningless characters who were pretty one dimension and uninteresting, this relationship should have been built. He had the time to do it, but focused too much on the boring crew members. I also feel that Brody was not a good choice for Jack Driskel, as he didn't embody the dash and leading man looks that the character would have benefitted from onscreen. Jack Black was probably the weakest cast member, as he looked far too tense in the eyes. He wasn't horrible, but not quite as strong of a screen presence as the role needed to be.
The beginning also wasn't horrible, just not anything great. Jackson tried to stuff too much into it, and focused on the meaningless characters far too often, but it had it's moments. The natives on Skull Island were creepy, and the film took off after they got there. I felt the way they had the ONE native kidnap Ann was kinda dumb compared to the other two versions, and I believe the 76 remake handled the native scene where Ann is sacrificed to Kong best, but Jackson did it effectively. The action is great that follows, though I think too many wow moments are stuffed into it, and the stampede was cringe inducing, as you could tell it was green screen, and it was impossible from a physics standpoint for any of them to survive. The Raptors being added to the stampede was a bit much. It was very cheesy.
The final capture on Skull Island was a bit cheesy too, as Kong had just taken multiple bites from the T-Rex's, but was brought to his knees by a harpoon. The harpoon thing was a little weak. I didn't mind that they didn't show the trip home, as I think it's easy enough to figure that out for yourself, so that's not anything that I see as a complaint.
I thought the 3rd act was very well done, and I really wish that the rest of the film would have been as flawless as it was. The final look that Kong gives Ann is touching, as he knew it would be over soon and that he was trapped. It was genuinely touching. All in all, King Kong is really good popcorn entertainment, despite some stilted performances and cheesy dialogue and sequences. Check your brain and the door and enjoy the show. Suspend a little disbelief. It's a classic and beloved story that's competently done for modern audiences, though the flaws keep it from being a classic itself. I did buy the new Kong DVD today that Peter Jackson put out, and I am glad to have a filmmaker like Jackson in the game. Looking forward to his next film.
B+ or B
Mav, that's a very well done review. I agree with everything (EVERYTHING) you say, with the exception that most of the flaws you mention didn't bother me too much.
I'm hesitant betwen a B+ and a A-.
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:08 am |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
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bradley witherberry wrote: Well I have seen the much vaunted newest version of King Kong and I must say I feel like the boy who said "The Emperor has no clothes!"...
This movie is not just bad, it is pitiful. Peter Jackson can't tell a story worth a damn. Not only that, if you planning on seeing this movie just for the special effects - well, they're surprisingly lame too. For example, anytime Kong is holding Naomi Watts in his hand, any suspension of disbelief is immediately reinstated. All of the actors are miscast - even Watts. If Jackson was truly inspired by the original version of King Kong, then he completely misunderstood it - this is a botched job.
The fanboys are going to eat this up for a couple weeks, but the general public is not going to put up with three tedious hours of Jackson's juvenile interpretation of King Kong - and forget what people are saying about the first hour being boring - the whole enchilada is slack. Fortunately, the reign of Peter Jackson will be a short-lived one now that he has ruined adaptations of two all-time classic source materials. In five years, this guy's going to be back to making low budget horror movies.
I know that some people will reject my review as biased and unfair, but as a lover of movies, I swear that what I have said is true. In the fullness of time, those blinded by the hype will come to see the light.
1 out of 5.
What a surprise... 
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:08 am |
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MovieDude
Where will you be?
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No point in me throwing in my thoughts, this thread is overflowing with them. I will say that I totally loved every second of it though, and although I'm not completely sure, it's very likely my favorite film of the year.
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