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Dr. Lecter
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 MovieDude wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: MovieDude wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: MovieDude wrote: As far as other movies that have yet to come out... I got a bad feeling about Match Point. It really just seems like way too little, too late. The reviews are very good but it just doesn't exactly stand out. And as said, The Producers doesn't seem to have much any chance of anything, although I still don't see exactly why some thought it did.
Woah, 65 million? Jesus, I wasn't paying attention, I thought it was going to finish around 75-80 million. What was the budget, 70 million? $72 million. It's just embarassing that Jarhead won't even manage a multiplier of 2.5. As for Match Point...I think the reviews are too good to be ignored. At least Allen should get a directing nod. I mean its reviews are generally better than Walk the Line's, Syriana's and not too far away from Brokeback Mountain. Yeah but so far it seems much closer to Good Night, and Good Luck/Capote for how big it's going to be, and even if it's somewhat larger then those two I don't think the reviews will be as good for either. I consider Good Night, and Good Luck close to a lock for a nom as this year's Sideways. It has a decent box-office, a big push behind it with Venice festival praise and Clooney. Capote's rave reviews are mostly resulting from Hoffman's performance, similar to Monster, just a bit better. Match Point's reviews don't just single out an aspect of the movie, they praise the entire movie. Also I think Academy memebers will be glad to see Allen back to form in the year he hit 70. While only two of his movies have ever been nominated for Best Picture, he has been nominated for Best Director six times. So he is usually one of those director's who fill the 5th spot without their movie becoming nominated. Also, the 13 nominated screenplays speak for themselves. I agree in regards to Good Night, and Good Luck. If Match Point did somehow get a nomination, it would take that film's spot. It's true that Capote's reviews have praised Phillip Seymour Hoffman immensely, but there is not a single slightly negative review to be found on Metacritic in regards to the film, as most critics agree that it is flawless. You mean like this one:
http://www.metacritic.com/video/titles/americansplendor
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MovieDude
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Dr. Lecter wrote: MovieDude wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: MovieDude wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: MovieDude wrote: As far as other movies that have yet to come out... I got a bad feeling about Match Point. It really just seems like way too little, too late. The reviews are very good but it just doesn't exactly stand out. And as said, The Producers doesn't seem to have much any chance of anything, although I still don't see exactly why some thought it did.
Woah, 65 million? Jesus, I wasn't paying attention, I thought it was going to finish around 75-80 million. What was the budget, 70 million? $72 million. It's just embarassing that Jarhead won't even manage a multiplier of 2.5. As for Match Point...I think the reviews are too good to be ignored. At least Allen should get a directing nod. I mean its reviews are generally better than Walk the Line's, Syriana's and not too far away from Brokeback Mountain. Yeah but so far it seems much closer to Good Night, and Good Luck/Capote for how big it's going to be, and even if it's somewhat larger then those two I don't think the reviews will be as good for either. I consider Good Night, and Good Luck close to a lock for a nom as this year's Sideways. It has a decent box-office, a big push behind it with Venice festival praise and Clooney. Capote's rave reviews are mostly resulting from Hoffman's performance, similar to Monster, just a bit better. Match Point's reviews don't just single out an aspect of the movie, they praise the entire movie. Also I think Academy memebers will be glad to see Allen back to form in the year he hit 70. While only two of his movies have ever been nominated for Best Picture, he has been nominated for Best Director six times. So he is usually one of those director's who fill the 5th spot without their movie becoming nominated. Also, the 13 nominated screenplays speak for themselves. I agree in regards to Good Night, and Good Luck. If Match Point did somehow get a nomination, it would take that film's spot. It's true that Capote's reviews have praised Phillip Seymour Hoffman immensely, but there is not a single slightly negative review to be found on Metacritic in regards to the film, as most critics agree that it is flawless. You mean like this one: http://www.metacritic.com/video/titles/americansplendor? Exactly, although I'd say that Capote has a lot more going for it, but it still won't get a Best Picture/Director nom (though at least it's probably got Screenplay/Actor noms in the bag)
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Dr. Lecter
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Well, then we agree, I see.
I do think that Match Point has a better chance at Picture/Director noms than Capote, definitely, but a worse chance than GNGL.
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MovieDude
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Dr. Lecter wrote: Well, then we agree, I see.
I do think that Match Point has a better chance at Picture/Director noms than Capote, definitely, but a worse chance than GNGL. As of now, I'd put it on par with Capote, although both movies are going to have there fates determined pretty soon as critics awards are given out.
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Raffiki
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I think Memoirs of a Geisha is turning out to be the most astronomically disappointing failure of any of the recent Oscar seasons.
The buzz it had going for it in November was just enormous. It was a film I really wasn't too interested in for almost the whole year. I read some articles and November and my interest sky-rocketed... the more I read the more I was certain this was going to be a very big contender to win, with alot of guilds' support.
Now, everything is just turning to mush!
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andaroo1
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Raffiki wrote: I think Memoirs of a Geisha is turning out to be the most astronomically disappointing failure of any of the recent Oscar seasons.
The buzz it had going for it in November was just enormous. It was a film I really wasn't too interested in for almost the whole year. I read some articles and November and my interest sky-rocketed... the more I read the more I was certain this was going to be a very big contender to win, with alot of guilds' support.
Now, everything is just turning to mush! I agree. It's a monumental failure that will be referenced any time someone says "December opening". Sure, Gangs of New York and Cold Mountain didn't hit as hard and fast as everyone wanted, but they were still well regarded and even Cold Mountain's fate wasn't sealed until the nominations...
...But Geisha is just staggering for such a huge frontrunner.
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