Syriana hardly has buzz bigger than Jarhead's, so how should it get a significantly better PTA?

Less theaters? I dunno.

How do we know it has less buzz anyway? I'd say it's actually getting quite a bit of buzz, especially with the Oscar talk swelling and the astounding PTA's of the last 2 weeks.

If it is in 2,000 theatres, it'd be about 400 less than Jarhead. That won't matter then.

But if you say so...

Jarhead's buzz was at least trackable and noticable. Syriana doesn't seem to be tracking like that, not at all.

1. The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe - $46.7m
2. Syriana - $16.1m
3. Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire - $12.4m
4. Walk the Line - $7.8m
5. Aeon Flux - $5.1m
6. Yours, Mine and Ours - $5.9m
7. Just Friends - $4.0m
8. Pride and Prejudice - $3.2m
9. Chicken Little - $2.8m
10. Rent - $2.1m

I've heard a few posts on Oscar Watch from several people that more people are asking about Syriana than they were for Jarhead. Not that that means anything, although I feel this could do very well for itself.

You didn't notice the box office for the last 2 weekends for Syriana? That's a good buzz indicator.

I've found the marketing to be really good for this. The TV spots have been well done and they're using all of the top critics for all their worth.

narnia seems-to me-to be in a similar position as batman begins was. it has a big online/geek fanbase and people really want it to do well but nothing the public is seeing is very effective, and it doesnt look fresh. lack of ads early on, and now major lack of effectiveness in the ads were seeing? the adult audience that will be seeing syriana or walk the line, the teenage audience awaits kong. families,well to be honest family audience are abit familied out. chicken little, yours mine and ours andpotter have been big family movies that are hits. word, parents have ttaken their children to the movie plenty fo time recently, and lot of kids i know wanan see kong, so i see lots of parents waiting and not seeing narnia.

back to the marketing-the tvspots dont sell this as akids film. they sure as hell dont make it look like an adult or teenage film-it turns them off actually-but nothing other then a talking lion signals this is a kids movie and will attract kid.s does it have toys? tie ins? there is nothing-NOTHING-that signals this is even any bigger of an event then even kingdom of heaven(itll get kingdomstotal in 3 days though). instead it seems like a film that is tryign to be a new lotr andit doesnt work. its not fresh. itdoesnt look original. it doesnt look huge. the action looks-at this point-old(after lotr, star wars, troy, kingdom of heaven these "battles" are old, as kingdom proved). what film is this? an epic with kids? potters is all kids subject with magic and what not;lotr is ts but with adults. but a 4,10,13 year old instead? the book isnt very famous. i mean what kinda film is this? kong is-obviously-an action film. its got romance. its laoded with special effects. ads for the film air everywhere.ads for thetie ins air everywhere and are very effective and verywell edited. narnia has unoriginal action. no romane or drama from the looks. special effects? tie ins? good editing?while kong has COUNTDOWNS on morning talk shows and entertainment shows at night;narnias noteven COVERED. Have i seen any free marketing(magazines, tv show talk, jay leno appearneces) for narnia? nope. flat out disney hasnt made this into t he veentfilm it couldbeen due to poor marketing, bad release. this lack of interest in this film among the mainstream is dangerously low, andill tell you, this, like batman begins, will gross alot less the deserves. and not only is this not being underestimated, its perhaps one of the most over estimated movies of the year.


46.7 opening
22.2 second weekend
155 u.s. total
430 total.

this is just a case of too little too late. and it doesnt helpthat teh ads airing are not effective in the least. also, if it didnt needa nythign else, disneys tracking cant be to great as disneys projected theater count is around 3000 theaters.

But incase you have amnesia, I'll remind you of something...

Batman Begins did not have huge pre-sales whatsoever.

no, but batman had batman, which is a much bigger draw to alot of people then this. id bewilling to bet these christian gorups being talked of will make up 50% of the audience. the huge presales will be aorund 1/3of its total. and this isnt the passion;in the public there is 0% controversy around this;hell 90% of the people who know aboutthis film rpobably have no idea its even got religous undertones.i mean if the public isnt smart enough to pick up the undertones in movies like SUPERMAN, i cant see who theyll pick them up for this. batman made up for not even presales by being batman and appealing to teens and adults and most kids.
basically-to the public batman was more appealing.WAY more.

What on earth does it matter if Batman is Batman when the sales numbers simply speak for themselves.

Jarhead had wayyyyy more young crowd in its advantage.

As a major member of OW (That's where I've been for the last year), I should note that they are anticipating Brokeback Mountain the same way people were anticipating Star Wars here in May, and plenty of the posters worship Carl Theodor Dreyer, so you should take their high-brow tastes with a grain of salt.

However, a thing to note about Syriana is that it did make athe cover of EW last week in an article about Hollywood's politics, and its audience is a lot older then Jarhead's which is why we aren't noticing any big buzz.

Narnia $78.5m
Syriana $24.0m

Oh and by the way, if your all wondering why we arent seeing shitloads of Narnia stuff? [i am, but i know some people here are claiming that they arent]
Well the bulk of Narnias ads are going to be targeted to younger [kids] and older [original narnia readers] segments of the audience than the ones that typically use this website.

The Chronicles of Narnia - $56.4M
Syriana - $17.5M

Narnia - 58 million
Syriana- 14.5 million

7 days before Passion of Christ opened, no one thought it would open the way it did.

the lion, witch, wardrobe... has a huge marketing backing... plus even people I know who are 35 - 60 years old are interested and have read all the books.

Churches, kids, adults... 100 million marketing...

60 million - 70 million

No lower.

The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe - $49
Syriana - $17 (I think it will have a slightly lower PTA than Traffic's expansion weekend, even with all the mainstream magazine coverage)

Narnia:70-73
Syriana:16.5

Nothing wrong with abortion. Some peope aren't fit to be parents.

Adoption would be the less murderous way to deel with that.

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Pronunciation: 'm&r-d(&-)r&s
Function: adjective
1 a : having the purpose or capability of murder b : characterized by or causing murder or bloodshed

Main Entry: 1mur·der
Pronunciation: 'm&r-d&r
Function: noun
Etymology: partly from Middle English murther, from Old English morthor; partly from Middle English murdre, from Old French, of Germanic origin; akin to Old English morthor; akin to Old High German mord murder, Latin mort-, mors death, mori to die, mortuus dead, Greek brotos mortal
1 : the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought

Main Entry: per·son
Pronunciation: 'p&r-s&n
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1 : HUMAN, INDIVIDUAL -- sometimes used in combination especially by those who prefer to avoid man in compounds applicable to both sexes <chairperson> <spokesperson>
6 : one (as a human being, a partnership, or a corporation) that is recognized by law as the subject of rights and duties

A fetus is not a person it does not have rights under the law so ending its development is not a crime. Abortion is not legally defined as a crime, for a murder to take place a crime has to be committed, hence the difference between murdering someone and killing someone. When you take the life of a person you are killing that person, but for a murder to take place a crime also has to be committed.

Narnia:48->250
Syriana:17-->100

Narnia - 55 million (or more)
Syriana - 16 million