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BennyBlanco wrote:
Do you guys think that King Kong is close to a lock in visual effects, or will the academy look to finally award a Star Wars prequel?

If Kong is a nominee in any of the "big" categories, then it will be a lock. Otherwise... I dunno. It will be a tough call between Star Wars and Kong this year.


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andaroo wrote:
BennyBlanco wrote:
Do you guys think that King Kong is close to a lock in visual effects, or will the academy look to finally award a Star Wars prequel?

If Kong is a nominee in any of the "big" categories, then it will be a lock. Otherwise... I dunno. It will be a tough call between Star Wars and Kong this year.


The nominations will be...

King Kong
Star Wars Episode III
War of the Worlds

Upper hand to win: War fo the Worlds. I think Speilberg is that strong and this is his year (again)! ;)

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I don't think War of the Worlds will be nominated.

For anything.

I think Narnia can/will get a nomination.

I'm not convinced that ILM will get two nominations.


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andaroo wrote:
I don't think War of the Worlds will be nominated.

For anything.

I think Narnia can/will get a nomination.

I'm not convinced that ILM will get two nominations.

That would be too bad, as I think the scene where the tripod emerges from the intersection is one of the greatest visual effects scenes of all time. The texture and compositing is outstanding. I agree though that Kong, Star Wars and Narnia just may overwhelm the somewhat restrained amount of effects shots in WOTW and get the attention of voters. It really boils down to a quantity vs. quality argument. Personally, I don't think Star Wars deserves to be there for what might be referred to as the most glaring over-use of cgi in cinema history. When you start using cgi body doubles to make Chris Lee do flips, you've definitely over-done it. A little restraint would have been appreciated.


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Maybe. But to me (personally) I think Spider-Man was an embarassment of a nomination that got over the perfectly realized effects in Minority Report. I just think there's something in the industry which "spreads the wealth" and would prevent ILM from getting two nominations, which was difficult for most of the history of the Visual Effects awards (it's happened twice I think)


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Agreed about Spiderman, both 1 and 2.


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Finally, someone agrees with me!

The fact that 2 won over the better effects in I, Robot, and Buckbeak in HP3 is just... amazing.

To me that award was a "Well, there is no Lord of the Rings nominated this year, and you made the most money, so here's your award".

I do think Star Wars will win because of the crushing weight of the effects work for all 3 films.


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Sure bets:

Sith for FX
Jarhead for Cinematography
Kingdom of Heaven for Costumes


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For winners?


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Yeah I read the first post as to be about winners only. Obviously it's all a crap shoot but those are my picks as the closest thing to sure bets.


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Edit: Uhhh... higly unlikely!

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March of the Penguins - Best Documentary
Wallace and Gromit - Best Animated

with 90% :biggrin: :

- Diane Keaton winning Best Supporting Actress


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Raffiki wrote:
Edit: Uhhh... higly unlikely!

What is highly unlikely?


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android wrote:
with 90% :biggrin: :

- Diane Keaton winning Best Supporting Actress


Looks like Gong Li will provide some stiff challenge.


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any others yet > Can you Name any 100% Guaranteed Sure-Bet OSCAR WINNERS!!!!!


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1. March of the Penguins for Best Documentary Feature - It made too much money for it not to win.
2. Wallace a Gromit for Best Animated Feature
3. Stars Wars for best F/X


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sorry Keira > Reese > Best Actress.


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Munich,I think.


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Goldie wrote:
sorry Keira > Reese > Best Actress.


You're likely to be right but anything can happen. One thing is for sure - Both will have plenty more opportunities to win Oscars. For this reason, it isn't entirely out of the realm of possibility that Joan Allen or some older actress wins. That would certainly shock most everyone here, that's for sure as most people have either Witherspoon or Knightley winning.

By the way, how old are Knightley and Witherspoon, respectively?


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Joe wrote:
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sorry Keira > Reese > Best Actress.


You're likely to be right but anything can happen. One thing is for sure - Both will have plenty more opportunities to win Oscars. For this reason, it isn't entirely out of the realm of possibility that Joan Allen or some older actress wins. That would certainly shock most everyone here, that's for sure as most people have either Witherspoon or Knightley winning.

By the way, how old are Knightley > 20, just like Scarlett J and Witherspoon, turning 30, respectively?


see above bolded answers


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Goldie wrote:
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Goldie wrote:
sorry Keira > Reese > Best Actress.


You're likely to be right but anything can happen. One thing is for sure - Both will have plenty more opportunities to win Oscars. For this reason, it isn't entirely out of the realm of possibility that Joan Allen or some older actress wins. That would certainly shock most everyone here, that's for sure as most people have either Witherspoon or Knightley winning.

By the way, how old are Knightley > 20, just like Scarlett J and Witherspoon, turning 30, respectively?


see above bolded answers


Keira is my age? I honestly thought she was like 25.


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Can you Name any 100% Guaranteed Sure-Bet OSCAR WINNERS!!!!!

I'm about 100% Gong Li is going to walk away with the supporting actress win.


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So can we officially call Reese a lock yet? I'm thinking we can.

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Rod wrote:
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Pretty locked up for a nod but NO chance at winning!


Just curious about why? Please don't say it's because Ray didn't win.


Cause Cold Miner's Daughter didn't win :mad: Hehe, no. :P But biopics in like these in generally not best picture winners. Often they're very good driven by their performances, but not good ENOUGH. And judging by the reviews (although they're not always everything) this doesn't really look to be any different. Do you honestly think people will watch this movie and think it is not only great, but THE best movie of the year?

Again, you shouldn't completely base a movie's chances based on history, but biopics that win are usually those of people who had some kind of pimpact on the world. On history, not just pop culture (Gandhi, The Last Emperor, Schindler's List). In fact, I can't think of a biopic that won from a person who was just...famous, regardless of how well they are regarded, regardless of how interesting or inspiring their lives were, and regardless of how well made the movie was, and regardless of well regarded of a figure they were. Maybe someone can point out an example?

@Raffiki: Brokeback Mountain? :P I know people say that a lot of people will not react very positively to it, but again, they forget you don't even need a majority of votes to win best picture. If those who do like it, love it, it has a better chance than universally praised film that not very many people would list as their favorite. I really do think that will be the case, but you can't predict how other films will be received. I don't think Memoirs of a Geisha will be as huge as some are hoping it will be, or think it will be, but that's (s)imply speculation and nothing else...and I really have no information to base my thoughts on that particular film right now. Munich could go either way, we really don't know anything about it. Just based on the people working on it and the premise you would think its the kind of film that would do really well...but will it actually deliver on that potential and be THAT good? As a movie with high expectations, it could also work against it if it's not as good as people were hoping for, even in the slightest way.

I think the big question mark this year, though, is The New World. A lot of people are dismissing it but there's really no reason to believe that it will be bad, and if it isn't, it's the PERFECT Oscar type film. So at this point the big contenders for the win, I think are The New World, Brokeback Mountain, Memoirs has a chance but again I personally don't think it will happen, and Munich. If we didn't know anything about Brokeback, I think Crash would have a chance if all films dissapointed, but at this point I think it's safe to say that if unfortunately ALL three films didn't live up to expectations, Mountain would beat Crash.

So the only reason I have Brokeback as the frontrunner is because we ahve some information on it. Now all there is to do is wait to see if Munich, Memoirs, or World are better/better received than Mountain. I think it has set the bar pretty high, though. Time will tell.

My predictions:
1. Brokeback Mountain for sure
2. Walk the Line for sure
3. Crash or Good Nigh and Good Luck OR Capote
4/5 Memoirs of a Geisha, New World, Munich (2 of the 3)

The only problem is that there is no comedy/light-hearted/feel-good movie in there. The Producers or Rent would fill in that slot nicely but I'm not particularly sure they will actually be good. The other movie to look out for is Three Burials.

Edit: Damn, I just realized I forgot Match Point.

hmm...
3. Crash OR Good Night and Good Luck OR Capote OR Match Point? ;P (I don't believe Capote has much of a chance at best picture anyway. )


hmmm I might have actually been on to something here :P

So I still believe Walk the Line and Brokeback Mountain will be nominated. And 2/3 among Munich, New World (With the reviews coming in I think it will be these two) and Geisha. And the last spot could go to quite a few films. Syrianna, Good Night and Good Luck, Match Point, and Cinderella Man (I know both the box office and reviews could have been better for a best picture contender but the same thing could have been said about Seabiscuit a few years ago (minus the box office) and it still made it. With Crash, Capote, and Three burials still in it for the last spot.

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bump - so any Sure Bet Winners > maybe I will head to Vegas!!!


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