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zingy
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 Alexander
Alexander Quote: Alexander is a 2004 epic film based on the life of Alexander the Great. It is not a remake of the 1956 film which starred Richard Burton. It was directed by Oliver Stone, with Colin Farrell in the title role. The film was an original screenplay based in part on the book Alexander the Great, written in the 1970s by historian Robin Lane Fox, Professor of Ancient History at Oxford.
The film was critically derided upon its release and failed at the American box office. It grossed only US$34 million domestically, while costing $155 million to produce. However, it did better internationally in recovering its losses, grossing a total of $132 million in overseas revenue.
The two earlier DVD versions of Alexander ("director's cut" version and the theatrical version) sold over 3.5 million copies in the United States. Oliver Stone's third version, "Alexander Revisited: The Final Cut" (2007) has sold close to one million copies.
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 5:53 pm |
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Appy
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 Re: Alexander
EYE CANDY!!!  I have been waiting forever for this film!!!!!!
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tombraider17
Mr. and Mrs. Smith
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An astonishingly beautiful film with strong acting and great epic battles. Stone isn't afraid to show Alexander's bisexual side as well, so the movie isn't for everyone. But I really loved this film, and it's definitely one of my favorite movies of the year.
A+
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 4:30 pm |
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Appy
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First off its a 10/10 an A+ yes it is that good.
Colin Farrell is a great actor and this movie only goes to show that he is! and that he has one very bright future! The cast was great and the filming was wonderful. I was lead to believe the gay scenes were pretty bad but they were not and actually I think most people will not be bothered by them at all. The war scenes are very graphic though and gory. But oh so well done! god it was like you were there thats how good it was!!!! Jolie was great as Alexanders Mother and Kilmer was wonderful as Alexzanders asshole of a father. I am a fan of both those 2 and loved watching g them own the screen. Leto was very good too but Colin just shined on the screen and just was wonderful. Yes I'm a Colon fan have own almost all his films and have seen most of them. I always thought he was a great actor and I knew he was talented but this film makes you see how fucking talented this Irish guy is!
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 11:50 pm |
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zingy
College Boy Z
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I'll write a full review later today, but just a few words. First of all, it's one of the biggest dissapointments of the year. I was too stubborn to believe the critics on this one, but they were right. This movie was a complete borefest from the opening scene to credits. Colin Farrell, Angelina Jolie, and Val Kilmer all did good performances, though I could not stand Angelina's accent after the first 10 minutes or so. Rosario Dawson also had a dreadful accent, though she only had about 2 lines in the whole movie, so thank you Oliver for that. The movie is just 3 long hours of bad accents, scenes related to homosexuality which were a bit hard to watch (especially seeing Farrell naked), and a few mediocre battle scenes.
My Grade: C-
Full review to come soon...
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Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:00 pm |
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KC
Team Kris
Joined: Sat Nov 06, 2004 4:57 pm Posts: 1024
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This is one of the worst movies I have ever seen! I have never seen so many people leave my theater before, at least 25 left in one row right in front of me with about an hour to go! Seriously, I thought this was going to be an action packed movie ala Troy, but this was flat out sleep inducing. The action is almost non-existent. I couldn't wait for this thing to get over with. My level of dissapointment is the highest I have had for any movie. This ranks right up there on my list for the worst movies ever made.
Grade- F
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Fri Nov 26, 2004 8:41 pm |
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rhyno
Speed Racer
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 10:10 pm Posts: 193 Location: Tampa, Florida
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Zingaling wrote: I'll write a full review later today, but just a few words. First of all, it's one of the biggest dissapointments of the year. I was too stubborn to believe the critics on this one, but they were right. This movie was a complete borefest from the opening scene to credits. Colin Farrell, Angelina Jolie, and Val Kilmer all did good performances, though I could not stand Angelina's accent after the first 10 minutes or so. Rosario Dawson also had a dreadful accent, though she only had about 2 lines in the whole movie, so thank you Oliver for that. The movie is just 3 long hours of bad accents, scenes related to homosexuality which were a bit hard to watch (especially seeing Farrell naked), and a few mediocre battle scenes.
My Grade: C-
Full review to come soon...
Hmm... I heard the parts related to homosexuality were very tame. Almost non exisitent. Reviews have claimed that there are just underlying innuendos. What was so bad that it was hard to watch?????
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Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:19 pm |
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rhyno
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 10:10 pm Posts: 193 Location: Tampa, Florida
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Zingaling wrote: I'll write a full review later today, but just a few words. First of all, it's one of the biggest dissapointments of the year. I was too stubborn to believe the critics on this one, but they were right. This movie was a complete borefest from the opening scene to credits. Colin Farrell, Angelina Jolie, and Val Kilmer all did good performances, though I could not stand Angelina's accent after the first 10 minutes or so. Rosario Dawson also had a dreadful accent, though she only had about 2 lines in the whole movie, so thank you Oliver for that. The movie is just 3 long hours of bad accents, scenes related to homosexuality which were a bit hard to watch (especially seeing Farrell naked), and a few mediocre battle scenes.
My Grade: C-
Full review to come soon...
Hmm.... I heard that the scenes of omosexualtiy were very tame and almost non-exisistent. Reviews have claimed that there are just underlying innuendos. What was so bad that it was hard to watch?
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Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:22 pm |
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neo_wolf
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Visually the film is stunning,No doubt about that.But the way stone tells the story is awful,Its eratic how he shows it,The film is boring aswell,sometimes the talking scene just go on for too long,with talking scene that dosent even help carry along the story.I had no problem with the homosexual parts,the annoying thing was the stupid glances that colin and jared did,it happened to many times,i thought to myself,Damn oliver,we get the point that these two are in love or are interested with eachother.The acting(minus kilmer and hopkins)is bad,i was taken aback by the actors accents,The irish accent colin had was distracting to me,Angelina's was the worse,This really is one of her worse performances.Jared lero was wasted in this film,he didnt do much in this film except just be there and pout.I also had a problem with the films editing,IMO it was sloppy at parts.The film is truly beautiful to look at and does deserve some oscar technical nominations,but everything else was a mess.
i give it *1/2 out of **** stars.
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Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:10 pm |
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zingy
College Boy Z
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:40 pm Posts: 36662
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rhyno wrote: Zingaling wrote: I'll write a full review later today, but just a few words. First of all, it's one of the biggest dissapointments of the year. I was too stubborn to believe the critics on this one, but they were right. This movie was a complete borefest from the opening scene to credits. Colin Farrell, Angelina Jolie, and Val Kilmer all did good performances, though I could not stand Angelina's accent after the first 10 minutes or so. Rosario Dawson also had a dreadful accent, though she only had about 2 lines in the whole movie, so thank you Oliver for that. The movie is just 3 long hours of bad accents, scenes related to homosexuality which were a bit hard to watch (especially seeing Farrell naked), and a few mediocre battle scenes.
My Grade: C-
Full review to come soon... Hmm... I heard the parts related to homosexuality were very tame. Almost non exisitent. Reviews have claimed that there are just underlying innuendos. What was so bad that it was hard to watch?????
Well, seeing Colin Farrell take off all his clothes, seeing his buttocks and penis, and then him jumping into bed with another guy... it's just kinda hard for me to watch. I don't know.
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Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:40 pm |
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choubachou
Indiana Jones IV
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I liked it surprisingly a lot. It is now my #1 film of the year.
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Fri Nov 26, 2004 11:03 pm |
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BennyBlanco
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:51 pm Posts: 1102 Location: The Bronx
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A damn fine film. The story had me hooked from start to finish and when the battles did come, wow, did they ever impress. It's becoming cliched now, but it's true; do not see this film if you are somehow hung up on the homosexual thing or you desire to see an action movie, because Alexander will only disappoint.
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Fri Nov 26, 2004 11:42 pm |
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zingy
College Boy Z
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I’m stubborn. I’m not afraid to admit it. I know I’m stubborn. For many, many years, I’ve always had the idea stuck in my head that critics don’t know what they are talking about. Usually, that’s because they give bad grades/scores to movies that I like. So, it wouldn’t make sense for me to listen to them. Alexander was considered a destined Oscar winner for 2004, until a few weeks ago. As critics began to see it, Alexander became well hated among all critics, and the bad buzz started to spread into its release. I, however, refused to listen to them, and take a shot at it, for I thought it looked fantastic. Not only are looks deceiving, but also the critics were right. Alexander joins The Village in the most disappointing movies of 2004.
The movie revolves around Alexander (duh!), a young king who at his time conquered 90% of the known world. The man is a legend, hence the movie being made on him. People call him Alexander The Great, for he did things that no one else could have done. He defeated empire after empire, and ruled most of the world at the time. Yep, the story really did deserve it’s own movie. And so, it was made. Oliver Stone is high on the list for best directors, so when I heard he was directing the story of Alexander, I knew this would be an instant classic… or so I thought. The movie has an all-star cast, consisting of the young, Irish Colin Farrell (Alexander), the lovely Angelina Jolie (Olympias/ Alexander’s mother), Val Kilmer (Philip/ Alexander’s father), as well as Anthony Hopkins, who provides the narration throughout the story. First thing is first. Colin Farrell was great. There was no denying his acting talent, though his Irish accent takes away the realism from what the character is supposed to sound like. Oh wells. Angelina Jolie also gave a great performance, though her accent was dreadful. After 10 minutes of listening to her, it becomes almost unbearable. But, it wasn’t as bad as the new, young actress Rosario Dawson, whose accent can make you deaf. Thankfully, Stone was smart enough to only give her about two lines in the whole movie. I applaud you on that one, Stone. Hopkins and Val Kilmer stole the movie, though, with awesome performances.
Does it sound good so far? If so, then that’s good, because that was all the good about this movie. The bad… everything else. You should be aware that this movie is a good three hours long. If it’s the right kind of movie, though, and it’s entertaining, three hours is not very long. However, in this movie, it’s a lifetime. The movie has a total of two battle scenes, which make up about 15 minutes total of this movie. The rest is just plain boring. I think that the first one hour of the movie was, infact, the best part of the whole movie. So, let’s see. Bad accents, long, dragging story. Anything else? Well, sure! That’s why the movie is bad! This movie portrays Alexander as a homosexual, so this movie has plenty homosexual situations. Personally, I felt uncomfortable seeing Colin Farrell nude, jumping into a bed with another man. Not that it’s wrong, but I just don’t want to see something like that. That won’t make everyone uncomfortable, of course, but it personally made me uncomfortable. The battle scenes were supposed to be the best part about the movie. I mean, don’t get me wrong, for the scenery and battle sequences were beautiful. However, they were far from what I expected. Very mediocre battle scenes.
Overall, Alexander is one of the most disappointing movies of 2004. I expected greatness, and I left the theater three hours older, filled with the bad accents stuck in my head. Three movies, including Alexander, came out this year portraying an important part of history. First, Troy came out back in May. That movie was excellent. Next, the legend of King Arthur was brought to the big screen again, and that was far from great, but highly entertaining. Alexander should have been the best of the three. This movie screamed Oscar nominee from the moment it was announced, and after it’s release, all hope is lost. You know, I didn’t know much about Alexander before watching this movie. After actually getting the opportunity to see it, I still don’t know.
My Grade : C-
Review Page: http://www.worldofkj.com/Zingaling-Alexander.php
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Sat Nov 27, 2004 12:54 am |
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El Maskado
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 Not as bad as critics made it up to be..
Although the movie is uninspiring, it does have its moments. My perception is sort of biased since I do love sword epics but the movie isnt all that bad. There are times when the movie seemed very contrived and tries hard to make into Braveheart and Gladiator where both movies dealt with fighting for ones freedom, Alexander doesnt inspire all at no matter what the musical score tries to sway us to believe. I don't see why Oliver Stone tries to portray Alexander as all heart when in fact he wasnt but a tyrannical ruler. I did love the epical blood bath battles, the costuming and the characterization of the supporting characters where they try to betray Alexander. I know the movie wont win any awards but it wasnt that bad either and its definately better than the crappy King Arthur.
B/B-
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Sat Nov 27, 2004 1:33 am |
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Dr. Lecter
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Zingaling's taste is often similar to mine, so his review worries me 
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Sat Nov 27, 2004 2:03 pm |
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zingy
College Boy Z
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Dr. Lecter wrote: Zingaling's taste is often similar to mine, so his review worries me 
I would never recommend it, but don't stop yourself from checking it out. This could be something we disagree on. :wink:
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Sat Nov 27, 2004 6:26 pm |
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bABA
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The reports seem divided. I've added a poll
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Sat Nov 27, 2004 7:39 pm |
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zingy
College Boy Z
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bABA wrote: The reports seem divided. I've added a poll
That's fine, but E? No such thing!
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Sat Nov 27, 2004 7:59 pm |
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insomniacdude
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I give it an E, simply out of spite of you Zing.
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:17 pm |
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zingy
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Now that I think about it, it does deserve an E! Good work bABA! :wink:
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:10 pm |
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Alexander -
What a marvelous mess of a movie (whew!). I heard a critic refer to it as a car wreck he couldn't turn away from. I would disagree. It wasn't enough of a car wreck to keep my attention. It was too earnest, it's goals too lofty, it attempted to be something it could never be. A great film.
It wasn't campy enough. Had it veered just a bit more off course, say computer generated elephants, full man on man sex, ultraviolence, mega sets, this film could have been the sandal and sword epic for the ages. Cleopatra for the 00's.
The only thing this film got right was the casting of Jolie, Farell, and Kilmer. They were just nutty enough. Had Stone came along for the loony ride, I think something unusual and in the end, very watchable would of been produced.
Instead, Stone of all people held back. Yes, JFK stone. The same Stone who directed Natural Born Killers and my personal favorite mind fuck, U-Turn.
I can't recommend this film. But if by Zeus' beard, there's a uncut ultimate Oliver Stone version waiting for DVD, I'll be first in line to buy it.
D+
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Sat Dec 04, 2004 9:03 pm |
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Mr. Reynolds
Confessing on a Dance Floor
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yeah. not the best movie ever. To be honest, I was intrigued in the subject matter but something was just off with the way the story was being told. That whole telling of history by anthony hopkins. i was like "shut up!" just let me see colin and jared get it on for Zeus' sake.
And if you are gonna talk about gods, then include godly things aka the taming of the wild horse. That was cool.
oy vey. C+ it should be seen just for the sake of talking about it
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Sun Dec 05, 2004 12:55 pm |
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matatonio
Teh Mexican
Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:56 pm Posts: 26066 Location: In good ol' Mexico
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That movie is torture!!!
great performences by Colin, Angeline and Kilmer, but the movie is TOOOOOO BORING!!!!
it is a disappointment for me
C-
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Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:03 am |
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Maximus
Hot Fuss
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Zing, I was told he wasn't naked (Farell) I must have conflicting sources
Not that it matters. The movies looks lame.
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Mon Dec 06, 2004 8:19 pm |
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zingy
College Boy Z
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zach wrote: Zing, I was told he wasn't naked (Farell) I must have conflicting sources
Not that it matters. The movies looks lame.
He was. You could see his butt and a slight glimse of his... well you know. 
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