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What grade would you give this film?
A 37%  37%  [ 7 ]
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Caught this movie again last night - and it's true - it is an honest to goodness masterpiece of film-making. Forget the genre, forget the intense themes, forget the violence - this is a fantastic movie - superbly written, edited, and directed. Rob Zombie turns out to have a vision - an artistic vision born of his carny childhood. Watch this film and be inspired. Watch this film and regain hope for the future of moviemaking.

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I haven't seen House of 1000 Corpses (despite owning it for a long while already), so I'll judge this movie based on its own merits. I think it is a decent horror/explotation flick which does a really good job mimicking gritty and raw horror flicks of the 70s and beginning 80s. As it has already been pointed out, this movie in a way resembles The Last House on the Left and the original The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Rob Zombi knows the genre pretty well and makes a good impression with this movie as a hômage to those times. The footage is often raw and grainy, the violence looks real and very brutal and the whole movie has this very gritty feeling to it.

However, the movie doesn't escape some monumental flaws either. It seems as if Rob Zombie is trying to make us sympathize with the murderers which is pretty much impossible and turns me a bit off the movie. I was actually very happy to see the Sheriff torturing the gang at the end and I was wishing he would have killed them in a painful manner. I was also displeased by the deus ex machina that comes along at the end and saves the gang from an unescapable situation. The very ending of the movie was oddly off as well. Overall, I don't know why the gang was presented as the sympathy figures in this one.

That aside, I must give the movie credit for its style, its seriousness (there is almost no humor whatsoever, not even dark one) and the good technical details as well as the fact that the gang manages to present themselves as despicable pretty well. It's not a milestone of horror history, but it is a decent flick.

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I've seen this five or six times now and I'm raising my grade up to a 10/10 (A+). It's a brilliant horror masterpiece.

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What a terrible movie. Absolutely terrible beyond belief. A mess of celluloid that is better left ignored then seen. Excessively gory and violent but it gets stuck in the middle, between being shocking and too tame. The result is a mediocre movie that is made worse by terrible acting, flimsy writing and abhorent editing.

The entire concept is simply absurd, and the plot is so thin it rarely is even worth considering. Director Rob Zombie chose a fast edit for some scenes which actually works, but then uses excessive slow motion and other gimmicks that remove any credibility. It is simply overall a terrible film and should be left as it is, ignored.

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RogueCommander wrote:
What a terrible movie. Absolutely terrible beyond belief. A mess of celluloid that is better left ignored then seen. Excessively gory and violent but it gets stuck in the middle, between being shocking and too tame. The result is a mediocre movie that is made worse by terrible acting, flimsy writing and abhorent editing.

The entire concept is simply absurd, and the plot is so thin it rarely is even worth considering. Director Rob Zombie chose a fast edit for some scenes which actually works, but then uses excessive slow motion and other gimmicks that remove any credibility. It is simply overall a terrible film and should be left as it is, ignored.

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I realize it's your opinion, man. But - c'mon! An "F"? No way in hell can any objective fan of the movie medium rate this film an "F". Sorry...


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bradley witherberry wrote:
RogueCommander wrote:
What a terrible movie. Absolutely terrible beyond belief. A mess of celluloid that is better left ignored then seen. Excessively gory and violent but it gets stuck in the middle, between being shocking and too tame. The result is a mediocre movie that is made worse by terrible acting, flimsy writing and abhorent editing.

The entire concept is simply absurd, and the plot is so thin it rarely is even worth considering. Director Rob Zombie chose a fast edit for some scenes which actually works, but then uses excessive slow motion and other gimmicks that remove any credibility. It is simply overall a terrible film and should be left as it is, ignored.

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I realize it's your opinion, man. But - c'mon! An "F"? No way in hell can any objective fan of the movie medium rate this film an "F". Sorry...


Uh...why not?


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Libs wrote:
bradley witherberry wrote:
RogueCommander wrote:
What a terrible movie. Absolutely terrible beyond belief. A mess of celluloid that is better left ignored then seen. Excessively gory and violent but it gets stuck in the middle, between being shocking and too tame. The result is a mediocre movie that is made worse by terrible acting, flimsy writing and abhorent editing.

The entire concept is simply absurd, and the plot is so thin it rarely is even worth considering. Director Rob Zombie chose a fast edit for some scenes which actually works, but then uses excessive slow motion and other gimmicks that remove any credibility. It is simply overall a terrible film and should be left as it is, ignored.

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I realize it's your opinion, man. But - c'mon! An "F"? No way in hell can any objective fan of the movie medium rate this film an "F". Sorry...


Uh...why not?

It's too well made.

(You may hate the genre, the director, the story - but an "F" rated movie, imho, needs to be shoddily made (eg: 1997's Batman and Robin) - love it or hate it, Devil's Rejects is well made...)


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bradley witherberry wrote:
It's too well made.

(You may hate the genre, the director, the story - but an "F" rated movie, imho, needs to be shoddily made (eg: 1997's Batman and Robin) - love it or hate it, Devil's Rejects is well made...)


Well made? Well made?!? I'm sorry but you have to be kidding me. I could have shot a more exciting film by recording the exterior of an ant farm. Seriously, the movie was so poorly made, edited and written I honestly am struggling to find a film that I know of that was worse. Alone in the Dark (2005) perhaps, but that was humerous to watch, The Devil's Rejects only made me cringe at how bad it was.

And yes, my grade of F still stands.

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Well made? Well made?!? I'm sorry but you have to be kidding me. I could have shot a more exciting film by recording the exterior of an ant farm. Seriously, the movie was so poorly made, edited and written I honestly am struggling to find a film that I know of that was worse. Alone in the Dark (2005) perhaps, but that was humerous to watch, The Devil's Rejects only made me cringe at how bad it was.

And yes, my grade of F still stands.

I'm sure in the fullness of time, when Devil's Rejects acheives classic status in the pantheon of horror films, you will come to see the err of your ways - but in the meantime, I do like your ant farm movie idea! Any chance of getting Morgan Freeman to narrate?


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bradley witherberry wrote:
I'm sure in the fullness of time, when Devil's Rejects acheives classic status in the pantheon of horror films, you will come to see the err of your ways - but in the meantime, I do like your ant farm movie idea! Any chance of getting Morgan Freeman to narrate?


He said he was too busy shooting the sequel to March of the Penguins something about Death of the Chickens... :biggrin:

And there are plenty of cult films that aren't that good.

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Finally caught this on DVD the other day... I thought HO1000C was decent, but was really disappointed by DR.

It was largely boring... I disliked everyone so much in the movie that I really didn't care who got killed or how. It also seemed to be gory, just to be gory... by the end it was fairly desensitizing which added to the bore factor. It was fairly predictable.

The ending with the images of the serial killers walking hand in hand by the beach, or licking ice cream cones together was a WTF moment of epic proportions. I can't wrap my mind around what Rob Zombie is trying to say... serial killers are people too? It was weird, and not in a good way.

I give DR a D

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The ending with the images of the serial killers walking hand in hand by the beach, or licking ice cream cones together was a WTF moment of epic proportions. I can't wrap my mind around what Rob Zombie is trying to say... serial killers are people too?

I wouldn't say that was all Zombie was trying to say, but it is an admirable theme to be explored. So much media coverage screams that serial killers are "monsters". Disconnecting them from the fact that they are indeed people pushes us further away from combating these people who have done very bad acts.


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*****CONTAINS SOME MINOR SPOILERS*****


THE DEVIL'S REJECTS (2005)

The Devil's Rejects is, not surprisingly, better than the shitty 2003 original House of 1000 Corpses. It's much more well-made and focused. That being said, it's also a disgusting piece of disturbing and offensive trash! It definitely had its moments when I was interested, but it also had a ton of pointless moments (mostly later in the movie) with the characters acting all obnoxiously psychotic where I just couldn't wait until it got over with. It was boring! Most of it seems like it was obviously made for shock value, and it works; I know I was fucking disturbed and disgusted. It's incredibly twisted and not in a good way. It was fucking sick and gross and just plain sad. I did like the sheriff character, pretty much only because I wanted him to get these monsters, but the guy playing him gives such an embarrassingly over-the-top performance that it makes it harder to take him seriously. I didn't like how they tried to make him out to be the bad guy towards the end of the movie. I was still rooting for him though. I hated the main characters, who they actually try and make you care about later on and shockingly, according to others that have seen it, this actually worked! Well not for me. I hated them with a fucking passion and wanted them to be brutally tortured. I was loving their torture scenes towards the end and it was a shame they were cut short. I didn't want to see them go out in a blaze of glory, I wanted these fuckers tortured to death in the worst possible ways. I loved seeing baby get shot in the leg and then whipped and she deserved worse. She should have gotten punched in the face a bunch of times as well. At least the character's don't get away and remain living or I would have been even more pissed. As it is I'm pissed because even as a horror fan I found this to be a terribly brutal film that was torture to sit through at times. Ugh! It was just disgusting! This movie makes the thought of High Tension very comforting, like it's a nice fluff movie or something. That movie's brutality had nothing on this movie's and this one got away with an "R" rating when it's more deserving of an NC-17 movie than most NC-17 rated movies.

I'll give this the rating it gets because it's better than the first, which I gave a 5/10 (C-), has a good soundtrack, and it's well-made. But that isn't enough to make it a good movie and other than that it is just trash. I say skip this crap and see Lions Gate's High Tension instead. It's easily a much better film and not nearly as unsettling and sick. The Devil's Rejects was pretty repulsive and I only recommend it if you want to be disgusted. Serial killers and potential ones will love it.

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Mike wrote:
...Serial killers and potential ones will love it.

Although, I disagree with your review of this movie, I respected your opinion up till the above quoted statement. This is like saying anyone who loved Schindler's List must be a Nazi...

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bradley witherberry wrote:
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...Serial killers and potential ones will love it.

Although, I disagree with your review of this movie, I respected your opinion up till the above quoted statement. This is like saying anyone who loved Schindler's List must be a Nazi...

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It's not like my comment was 100% serious. But I can't see anyone remotely human not finding this highly disturbing and hating these piece of shit characters with a passion. I have a problem with them trying to make you give a shit about these monsters in the end. It is basically like, "Forget that they brutally tortured, raped, and killed almost 100 people for fun, they're people too." :roll: It was so manipulative!

No offense to you and I don't care if you liked it (if you can respect my opinion I can respect yours), but this movie just made me angry.


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bradley witherberry wrote:
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The ending with the images of the serial killers walking hand in hand by the beach, or licking ice cream cones together was a WTF moment of epic proportions. I can't wrap my mind around what Rob Zombie is trying to say... serial killers are people too?

I wouldn't say that was all Zombie was trying to say, but it is an admirable theme to be explored. So much media coverage screams that serial killers are "monsters". Disconnecting them from the fact that they are indeed people pushes us further away from combating these people who have done very bad acts.


I didn't see it as an admirable theme. It reminded me of the time they released the home videos of Hitler playing with his puppy and family. It's not that I think that serial killers can't have a human side deep down somewhere, it's just that I don't care and not sure of the purpose.

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Well I have sympathy for some killers and can relate to some, like I felt bad for Aileen Wuornos and the character of May in the movie May/b] and could see how they got to where they did. But I had no sympathy for the killers in [b]REJECTS and showing pictures of them being all happy and stuff during the end was just dumb. Yeah, I'm really going to give a shit about these monsters that tortured and killed almost 100 people for fun :roll:.


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I agree with you, guys. I was really put off by the movie's suggestion to sympathize with the Rejects.

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Just saw it, loved some of it, more mixed on other aspects. All the retro 70s stuff was great, loved the montages and general style Zombie imposed, it was a huge relief after the ghastly trainwreck of a film that was House of 1000 Corpses. The acting was pretty good for the genre, and the film definitely had some "hardcore, asskicking" moments that worked well with my company. And while I thought making the Rejects look like some happy go lucky family at the end was fucked, I did appreciate how the killers became the victims, it was an interesting role reversal. Still, it was hard to feel sympathy after we spent so much time watching them go around and violently slaughter anyone for no reason in particular. That kind of got to me too, they seemed pretty sane at times and could clearly interact fine with pretty normal individuals (like Ken Foree, who is the fucking man), yet had no reason or motive to go ahead and massacre everyone. Honestly, they seemed more like bank robbers then serial killers (well those three at least, Mother Firefly was pretty batty). Though what the fuck was up with Tiny? Where did he come from? Why did he go into the house and die? Why did they leave him there? That had to be the biggest question mark I had throughout the whole thing. Oh yeah, and that ending... sheer greatness. At first I wanted to give the film a much higher rating just for how well shot the scene was. B


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I should note before I review this that I've never seen House of 1000 Corpse's but if The Devil's Rejects is any indication of the Rob Zombie style I shall be steering well clear of anything he makes in future because this was quite possibly the most aimless and pointless film I have ever watched and seriously suggests Zombie wouldn't know what horror is if it jumped up and bit him in the ass.

I mean I get what he's trying to do, Zombie loves his 70s gory horror and this seems to be an attempted modern homage but it fails on so many levels I don't quite know where to begin.

First off the camera work is bloody awful, I don't mind shaky cam in certain films but for large sections of The Devils Rejects I could have sworn the camera operator had just drowned a bottle of Jack Daniels and then stumbled around trying to film the movie. Simply Dreadful.

The characters were the most one note cardboard cut out caricatures I have ever seen. Its a long brain numbing succession of them fucking and blinding and getting their sexual rocks off, something I wouldn't mind if they didn't display all the allure of a box of spanners. I need an interesting reason for my gore and bloodlust, None of the Devils Rejects held any interest to me they were insanely boring and painful to endure. Yes the film tries hard to make them sympathetic creatures but Zombie fails spectacularly in that regard. I don't love or loath them i'm just bored by them.

The lack of any originality is galling and I know I might be repeating myself but I'll say again that every aspect of the movie (bar maybe the decent soundtrack) bored me to tears. It seems the majority of horror produced in the USA these days just assumes that buckets of blood and torture is enough to have in a horror movie but at the end of the day blood and gore isn't scary or interesting in the slightest regard if one doesn't attach it to good writing and memorable characters.

Films like this are an insult to Horror, Zombie better learn that his movies need to scare me or that forthcoming Halloween remake will be a disaster of epic proportions.

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I've only seen House of 1000 Corpses... That was enough Zombie for me. Twas a trainwreck.

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Devils Rejects

I bought this vid for about 5 bucks and found it watchable but not memorable except for the clown man. He really dominates the scenes that he's in. I had to FF the scene in the motel room with the women because I was so tired of dealing with torture scenes it's so ridiculous with these types of films but of course I did enjoy the tortune done by the crazed sheriff. Oh and faye dunaway was nice to. Way over the top but how else is one gonna play that role. Again, I can't stand seeing people get tortured for the sake of showing torture and a couple of the killings just made me so mad cuz they were done for no reason. I know that this goes on, but it just turns me off when I actually see it in a movie. Overall, I didn't hate the film but it's worth a view especially for the clown man.

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