The 'Big Brother 6' Thread
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MikeQ.
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O wrote: I dont know if it was just me, but there was a moment during today's Big Brother, after Mag/Ive were celebrating, that Ivette looked at Maggie not as a friend, but almost like she REALLY liked her. I know that's REALLLLLYYYYYYYYYY stretching it, but rewatch it, and see it again. I don't know what it is, but there was something very very different about the way Ivette looked at Maggie especially today...could this be the real big brother secret? 
lmao. Maybe this was the big secret they were working up to for their theme - "The Summer of Secrets". Now that would certainly beat out the other lame "summer of secret" secrets. lol. What's funny is that it always seemed like their were hints of Maggie loving Ivette and April as more than friends. Some of her comments posted in here to April were... freaky, to say the least.
PEACE, Mike.
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Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:01 am |
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O
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Libs wrote: O wrote: I dont know if it was just me, but there was a moment during today's Big Brother, after Mag/Ive were celebrating, that Ivette looked at Maggie not as a friend, but almost like she REALLY liked her. I know that's REALLLLLYYYYYYYYYY stretching it, but rewatch it, and see it again. I don't know what it is, but there was something very very different about the way Ivette looked at Maggie especially today...could this be the real big brother secret?  Maybe all those times Ivette kept talking about "her girlfriend Maggie", it turned out... her real girlfriend Maggie is the one in the house. Heh. The other one is just some actress with a frightening resemblance to Screech that they hired.
I am SO frustrated that the "summer of secrets" only really lasted a week.
Ok, so lets summarize. The secrets that were supposed to make up the entire season were:
-A secret room (suspected by most people within the first 1/2 hr in the house, and found maybe 3 days into the 80 + long show.
-3 safes (PB and J pass, a trip, and vespa's)
-Everyone came in with a partner, which most people knew or suspected very very early on (many figured them all out in the first week).
-Two double eviction weeks, but really, it wasn't a secret, there was no way they could get it all done in time any other way really.
-The return of a contestant (Kaysar), along with 3 others who had been sequestered. This was also suspected, and as been done in a previous season, so it wasn't too shocking.
- And to a less extent, I think that CBS was inferring some other secrets as a) Ivette being a lesbian b) April getting alot of work done etc, but those were not very secret worthy, as they revealed the detail about Ivette when they introduced her the first episode, and showed her kissing her gf.
My goodness, this was quite the waste of a season really. They spend money to build them a new house, and come up with a new theme song, and couldn't even put any effort into really interesting game developments.
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Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:01 am |
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Cotton
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I agree this season sucks, but I'll watch the finale. I mean, quitting at this point would be a waste of time if you think of all the things we had to endure:
- Lame twists
- Stupid and trivial HOH and POV competitions
- Janelle's ardent cult following (or at least it's a thorn in my side)
- The existance of Ivette
And I could go on and on and on...
Anyway, I'm going to try and be optimistic and hope that Maggie can score a victory over Ivette. To be fair, she's played the overall best strategic game by a million miles, and isn't that what should really matter in the end when you go and cast your vote?
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Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:38 am |
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Joker's Thug #3
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I cant belive the last competition for veto was THAT, what the hell? I mean who does James think is hotter himself or Kayser? Those type of questions are the ones that gave someone the most important veto in the whole game? If it was something that involved brains Janelle wouldve won.
If Maggie wins that would be so very lame, I mean she has done nothing but follow a stonger players ass all the way through.
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Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:22 am |
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BennyBlanco
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What the hell has Maggie done but play puppetmaster to a bunch of retards? She is the most horrid person ever to compete in a reality tv show. Tonight I really wanted to punch the screen when she was saying those things in her goodbye message, when just a little earlier (and 24/7 throughout this season) she had been trashing Janelle and referring to her as a vile, disgusting bitch. I'll say it again, if you don't have the live feeds or read the transcripts then you have no idea how awful this skank is. Maggie won HOH second week and that's it. Ivette actually turned it on and won 2 HOH's ( including the single most powerful HOH) and a veto that saved her butt from certain eviction. Maggie doesn't deserve shit.
It was tough to see Janelle finally run out of her nine lives, especially the way it went down, but hopefully James and perhaps Rachel can liven up the finale and really grill Ivette and Maggie and cause some kind of ruckus. What I'm dreading is seeing the two of them fawning all over each other for an hour, with friendship members April, Beau and Jen taking turns showering them with praise.
I think Ivette will win.
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Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:03 am |
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Mister Ecks
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My brain exploded about five minutes ago, after watching the final tie-breaker. I'm now a zombie. Raaawwrrrrrr.
I didn't watch the live interview, nor anything else, and while I'll probably tape the finale (taped every other episode), I can't see me anxiously awaiting it. If I watch the finale, it's only to see the Soverign Six. I don't give two shits about:
-Who wins this awful game. Suddenly, I hate this game, and you're damn right that the final two is the reason.
-Eric and Michael pretending they're okay with each other.
-Ashlea telling us how she was disappointed we didn't get to know her.
-The shit-eating grin on the faces of the Friendship.
-James making believe he controlled the game, and that he should have won.
Argh. I feel pretty empty right now. I spent the last two and a half months watching this show, and I feel like it's all wasted time right now. Sure, I got to know Kaysar, Howie, and Janelle, but it comes at the cost of seeing the Friendship. Ivette will likely come up short, since it's rare that someone does so well for a few weeks, then wins the whole thing. Then again, I don't care who wins at all.
I wonder how the ratings will be for the finale. I seriously doubt everyone will stop watching, but I know I'd much rather watch the Dancing with the Stars special, moreso than this horrid finale. Maybe Ivette and BB Maggie will make out in front of Ivette's Maggie, and Ivette's Maggie will kill them both. Now THAT'S entertainment!
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Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:36 am |
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Mister Ecks
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Since I've heard it at least ten times over the past few weeks, I'll ask: who are the 12 people you would want to see compete in a Big Brother: All-Star edition? And, if you're Cotton and don't like the idea of an All-Star edition (fussy), then just pick your 12 favorite houseguests from Seasons 1 to 6. I'll do mine later.
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Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:47 am |
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newfoundglorysp
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ALL-STAR
will- BB2
eddie- BB1
Alison- BB4
Janelle- BB6
Kaysar- BB6
Holly - BB5
Danielle - BB3
Eric- BB3
Nathan - BB4
Hardy- BB2
Cassandra- BB1
Josh- BB3
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Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:17 am |
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Libs
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Three people I'd most want in All-Star Big Brother: Janelle, Danielle and Evil Doctor Will.
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Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:45 am |
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Cotton
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OMG I'd love a Big Brother, All-Star edition  Here are my picks:
Janelle (BB6)
Kaysar (BB6)
Whoever wins BB6
Drew (BB5)
Jase (BB5)
Jun (BB4)
Allison (BB4)
Lisa (BB3)
Danielle (BB3)
Marcellas (BB3)
Will (BB2)
Monica (BB2)
And the guy who won BB1
Anyway, my picks reflect audience favorites and who would make for better TV than my own personal favorites. If I had to pick from my own camp, they'd mostly all be from BB3 and BB5..plus Will.
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Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:49 am |
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greasedlightning
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Hmm. My pics
1. Will (BB2) - Didn't see this season, but have heard a LOT about him. Would love to see him in action.
2. Marcellas (BB3) - Loove him.
3. Danielle (BB3) - The person who SHOULD have won BB3
4. Alison (BB4) - Love this girl  . She did what she had to in order to get to that final two, and yes, she didn't win, but I think she pretty much knew she was playing for second place.
5. Erika (BB4) - She was another one of the people I really liked from BB4
6. Dave (BB4) - Hysterical guy.. wish he hadn't gotten the axe so early.
7. Scott (BB5) - I, personally, loved him. He was funny, he was like Howie in the way that he just wanted to lighten up the house and have fun.
8. Jase (BB5) - Good in competitions, and could bring the drama.
9. Nakomis (BB5) - I think she was a great player; very smart.
10. Janelle (BB6) - She had the whole house against her, and made in to final three. I'd love to see her go at it again.
11. Howie (BB6) - Would really lighten up the house, plus it would be great to see what him and Scott could do together.
12. James (BB6) - He was a great player, although I didn't particularly like him towards the end. He needs to not play as hard, and be a little more discreet, but I can see him doing better the second time around.
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Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:11 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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Heh, from Greased's list:
The All-Star Friendship?
Will = Eric
Marcellas = Beau
Erika = April
Danielle = Ivette
Alison = Maggie
That's fairly off for comparisons. I'm really only linking Maggie and Alison because they look alike, and because Marcellas and Beau are gay black men. Heh. But, the All-Star Friendship would be infinitely better than the BB6 Friendship.
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Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:48 pm |
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O
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They don't have enough just yet to pull an all star version I think. What they need to do is finish a season at a peak (with audiences really loving it) and then doing an allstar version. That's what they did for Survivor, and it worked wonders. They had Rupert's season, and then shortly after the allstars, which audiences enjoyed. I dont think they should quite do an all stars version next season, because they have alot of work to do before then, particularly developing some IDEAS.
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Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:14 pm |
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greasedlightning
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Mr. X wrote: Heh, from Greased's list:
The All-Star Friendship?
Will = Eric Marcellas = Beau Erika = April Danielle = Ivette Alison = Maggie
That's fairly off for comparisons. I'm really only linking Maggie and Alison because they look alike, and because Marcellas and Beau are gay black men. Heh. But, the All-Star Friendship would be infinitely better than the BB6 Friendship.
ACK! Alison and Maggie do NOT look alike! Maggie looks like a man, and Alison was very, very pretty. Ew, grossed me out to read that lol.
Marcellas/Beau.. Marcellas atleast has SOME personality.. Beau has zero.
Erika/April ... well, Erika was more quiet and not AS annoying lol
Danielle/Ivette.. Danielle was actually a GOOD player. Yes, they were both loud and outspoken, but atleast Danielle was a good competitor and she did most of her shit talking in the diary room, and not for the world to hear. She was pretty discreet.
But yes, if they were the new "friendship" they would be infinitely better.
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Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:21 pm |
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greasedlightning
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The thing with an allstars, though, is that it would probably be better to NOT have winners of past seasons on the shwo... just because I feel like they would be picked off easier because they already won the 500K.
I wouldn't even mind it not being exactly an 'all-stars' but rather taking the first few people from every season that got booted off 1-3 or something like that.. the people who didn't really get a chance or experience the game.. if you took ppl like that from every season, it would still be fairly new to them, and they wouldn't know the ropes jsut yet.
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Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:24 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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greasedlightning wrote: The thing with an allstars, though, is that it would probably be better to NOT have winners of past seasons on the shwo... just because I feel like they would be picked off easier because they already won the 500K.
I wouldn't even mind it not being exactly an 'all-stars' but rather taking the first few people from every season that got booted off 1-3 or something like that.. the people who didn't really get a chance or experience the game.. if you took ppl like that from every season, it would still be fairly new to them, and they wouldn't know the ropes jsut yet.
Ethan was the longest-lasting winner in Survivor All-Stars, and even he was booted after only seventh or eighth episode. Tina got booted, Jenna Morasca quit, Rich got booted, then Ethan. I guess it would have to be non-winners, because I think in any game, the winners will be gone quickest.
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Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:49 pm |
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newfoundglorysp
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i think it'd be funny to have a big brother with all the either the 3rd and 4th place conestants or the 2nd and 3rd place contestants. the people that were so close to the end then came up short.
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Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:18 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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I guess I have to agree with someone on another Big Brother forum: I'm going to watch the finale, simply because we've all come this far. We might as well see how it ends. I'm bitter that my three favorite reality stars ever (and I'm not overexaggerating to make a point), Howie, Kaysar and Janelle, may not be sitting there in the final three, but they still made a good season great, and will likely make a crap finale watchable. Those three are only rivaled by Tom from Survivor: Palau and Romber from Survivor/Amazing Race as my favorite reality contestants.
As for who wins, I still don't care. I can make up a bunch of excuses as to why Maggie deserves it, or why Ivette deserves it. In the end, I hate them both, and I really don't give a shit who wins. They played a great game, but that doesn't make them good people, or likable players.
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Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:45 pm |
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O
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People who are questioning whether they're going to watch the finale or not, I will DEFINITELY be.
SPOILERS!
I heard some of the questions asked, and the jury's response to the two finalists, and it seems the consensus is that every single jury member other than Beau was really harsh on both of them, including April and Jennifer. The girls in the house are all upset now, and feeling almost traumatized. But the jury I think will be especially more interesting than previous years, because this group is so polarized, and the final 2 are generally so disliked by many it seems.
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Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:09 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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Good. The Friendship has turned to hen shit.
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Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:24 pm |
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Cotton
Some days I'm a super bitch
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Hehe, I wonder what the Rachel said?
The one thing that I remember most from season 4 was when both Alison and Jun BOLTED out of the house as soon as Jun was crowned the winner. It was clear that no one on the jury was happy with giving either of them the money.
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Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:23 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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Cotton wrote: Hehe, I wonder what the Rachel said?
The one thing that I remember most from season 4 was when both Alison and Jun BOLTED out of the house as soon as Jun was crowned the winner. It was clear that no one on the jury was happy with giving either of them the money.
That was so much worse than Ivette and Maggie. Jun was such a cocky, arrogant person, who rarely seemed like she cared at all if she won or lost, and Alison was a liar and more of a manipulator than anyone else in the game. They didn't deserve their place at all.
There hasn't been a good final two since Danielle and Lisa in Big Brother 3.
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Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:28 pm |
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greasedlightning
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Mr. X wrote: Cotton wrote: Hehe, I wonder what the Rachel said?
The one thing that I remember most from season 4 was when both Alison and Jun BOLTED out of the house as soon as Jun was crowned the winner. It was clear that no one on the jury was happy with giving either of them the money. That was so much worse than Ivette and Maggie. Jun was such a cocky, arrogant person, who rarely seemed like she cared at all if she won or lost, and Alison was a liar and more of a manipulator than anyone else in the game. They didn't deserve their place at all. There hasn't been a good final two since Danielle and Lisa in Big Brother 3.
I disagree. I think Alison deserved to be there. Not Jun so much, because all she did was cook and get fat and fly under the radar. Alison, however, was hated by all except Nathan, and she was able to wriggle out of every bad situation, and she was able to pull out all the wins she needed to in order to iwn. I remember they were going to get her out one week, and she knew she had to win that HoH, and she went out there and miraculously did it. It was the one where they had tennis balls in that big water holder thing and they had to shake them out into a little tube below them. She was always able to do things like that under pressure, and do what was necessary to win.
Ivette pretty much coasted throughout the game, and I don't think she deserves to be there. Maggie, as much as I hate her, did the manipulation thing and it worked to her benefit because she has an 80% chance, maybe more, of winning that money. Maggie, out of all the friendship, deserves to be there because she actually played the game, even if she is a stupid little twat.
I didn't like a Lisa/Danielle final two either because Lisa pretty much coasted, too, and only stepped it up at the end. Danielle played ferociously and she did whatever she needed to do to win, much like Alison, but because jurors were allowed to see the tapes before voting, that's why she lost. Not fair, if you ask me, but you know how it goes.
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Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:35 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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When Lisa voted Amy back in over Eric, that was her defining moment, and that was when she started playing the game.
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Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:40 pm |
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rhyno
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~bUmP~
Tonights finale night. Anything you're looking forward to? I have to say I am patiently waitng for the jury to shred the two witches apart.
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