Is everyone elses audio(for the howie rant)? and is there a file where janelle goes off on maggie?

As far as my favorites go:

1. Kaysar
2. Howie ( because he went apeshit on April)
3. Janelle
4. Rachel
5. James

Hate the rest. Jen the most.

Kaysar fucked up the most soley for giving the HOH to Jennifer.

Favorites

1. Rachel
2. Jennifer
3. Maggie
4. Kaysar
5. James
6. Beau
7. Ivette (she's actually growing on me)
8. April
9. Howie
10. Janelle

NOTE: I havn't yet seen the Howie-rant, so I can't factor it in to my judgement.

Everyone in there is a liar and a hypocrite. Howie is really immature and he can lash out all he wants but it just drains his energy before the HOH. The problem with the outcasts is they were so fixated on James (James isn't a saint don't get me wrong), they never realized that much that was blamed on James was really the work of Jen and April (with some help from Maggie and Ivette). They kept doing things based on the past (also, some faulty/misleading info) and never looked at the future, if the dynamics of the house had changed, their strategy need to change.

I can see why some of you think Jen's move was kind of dumb, because her and April were under the radar until this week. However, unlike Howie's move which weakened his team at least Jen's move weakened the other side. I think it will hurt her long term prospects of winning the game. However, remember there are two other side alliances going on James/Ivette/Beau and Howie/Rachel/Jen/April. Some of this posturing could just be for show to throw the other houseguests off.

I never said Howie wasn't a fool, either. Was his ranting funny? Yes. Was watching April cry funny? Yes. Do I wish he would continue? Yes. But it was a stupid move on his part because now they want him out. But you know what -- it doesn't matter because after Kaysar was gone, they wanted Howie/Rachel broken up anyway. He knows he is next, so he's going to go out with a bang, basically. Is it right, morally? No. But this game has proven, time and time again, that you can't play with morals. April and her group broke down the Outcasts, now Howie is going to breakdown April. That's how he sees it, anyway.

And it doesn't matter if there is only three of them. Might I remind you of Big Brother 4's Alison? She had allegience to NO ONE, had NO allies at all, and she made it to final two. She did it on her own. That shows that one of the outcasts can also do the same. Besides, Janelle does awesome in the HoH question and answer games. Besides for the "Eliminator" she has been in the tiebreaking round every game. So you can call her a "ding dong blonde" but she obviously does quite fine.



Once again, if one of them goes, they're NOT extinct. Like I said above, Ali of BB4 had the whole house against her, and she slipped out of it time and time again to make it til number two. I wouldn't rule out the possibility of the outcasts making it just yet.



Once again, you didn't watch the whole HoH competition, so you don't know what happened. Kaysar didn't exactly, "give it up." Kaysar, from the eight hour mark, was failing. At the eight hour mark, there were no rules, so he was putting his head against the glass and sleepign. But once they told you that you can't swithc hands, can't touch the button box, and can't touch the glass, and cant keep your eyes closed for more than four seconds, he was gone. His body kept twitching and swaying, and he kept trying to keep awake by bouncing on the balls of his feet. He kept swatting flies away, coming dangerously close to the glass. The BB voice had to keep coming over the loud speaker and telling him to keep his chin up so they can see if he is awake. It got so bad that Janelle and Howie had to stand infront of him and tap on the glass and talk to him and write messages on the glass in the fog of their breath to try and keep him awake and alert. Kaysar had two choices: 1. Hold on and lose, eventually or 2. Try and make a deal. He did the best thing: He tried to make a deal. It, unfortunately, failed. He could have held on for a little while longer and gotten nothing. He WOULD have lost. Jennifer was fine. She was joking around with Maggie and Ivette, laughing, she was awake and alert, and she wasn't closing her eyes longer than a blink. It was obvious that she had the upperhand, and Kaysar knew that, which is why he had to try and make a deal.



No way in hell do these four have an alliance. Sorry, but no. Howie hates her, Rachel hates her. Jennifer and April wouldn't turn on their team, and much as they like to pretend they would. Howie, Rachel, or Janelle get HoH next week, Jen or April are gone. It's as simple as that. James/Beau/Ivette probably DO have an alliance, I wouldn't be shocked. But James is in a great position to make it to the end. And even if Howie/Rachel/Jen/April ever DID have an alliance, it would be done now after what they did to Kaysar. Especially because they all swore to Howie to take out James this week, and Jennifer and April were the ones that decided not to do that.




And, following others, my favorites that are left in the game..

1. Janelle
2. Howie
3. Kaysar
4. James (Man, do I HATE this guy, but he plays a good game, I have to give him respect for that. He has positioned himself perfectly to get to the end of the game. He has to two teams going at each other so badly, he's not even a target anymore).
5. Rachel (I'm starting to really dislike her. I worry that when Kaysar goes, she will sell out Janelle in a second -- especially due to diary room entries where she talks abotu making sure only her and Howie are safe, and conversations on the feeds, like earlier today tellin Kaysar she needs to keep James and get him on her side in order for her and Howie to go far. Plus, she made those deals last week to be safe and didn't include Janelle, or mention her. I know Howie is her partner, but Janelle and Kaysar became partners after Michael and Ashlea left, and Kaysar always made sure to not only keep Janelle safe, he spoke for Rachel and Howie's safety, too. The only reason she is five is because I like her mroe than any of the core).
6. Maggie
7. Beau
8. Ivette
9. April
10. Jen

Yes, but Alison played the game differently than Janelle. The reason Alison thrived on her own is because she played both sides (the Exes and the Jack/Erika and co alliance), unlike Janelle, who is digging her own grave by lashing out at the "Core" -- who might I add, currently have a numerical advantage. If she wasn't a "ding-dong blonde", she'd keep her mouth shut and handle herself with much more class. At the rate she's going, she'll be back in South Beach, shopping for a new "agent" to revive her aspiring acting/modeling career before she hopes to collect half a million bucks.

Anyway, just to clarify a few things, I just want to say that I'm not really taking sides in this whole "Core" vs "Outcasts" ordeal. I'm just posting my comments regarding each contestant individually. Heh.



I meant the group is extinct. The people could survive, but the whole "plan" would be shot to shit....kinda like it allready is now.

And BTW, Alison never really had the house against her. True she would have gotten canned if Nate didn't use the POV on her, but at the time, the house was against Dana for putting her and Jack up to begin with.

Tooooooo much words for discussion on a reality show!!

haha, couldn't agree more.

After watching last night's show, I'm fairly outraged and pissed off. It's not the gameplay, because they're obviously smart, it's the fact that they're so hateable and so obnoxious that I hate them. If Howie, Rachel or Janelle/Kaysar don't win HOH this week, I'm likely done with this show. It's an amazing season, but I cannot stand to see any of them prance around for another week like this. Right now, I'd love to see Maggie turn on Jennifer, but I know that won't happen. Maggie was the only Friendship-member I could tolerate last night, but they're all on my last nerve.

Win the HOH, Hurricane Howie.

Spoiler stuff that you likely won't see on TV anyway:

And, I think April looks way more pathetic than Howie. She thinks by not responding to him as he goes on and on that she's just making him worse, but he's been this way the entire time. He's not going to stop. I love how he knows exactly how far he can go, and when to stop. He never does anything physical, like throw a chair around. He goes as far as he has to so he can make her suffer. You can tell it's getting to her, and I love it.

Hurricane Season!!!!!! The "friendship" is goin down! Go Howie!!

I don't want James winning HOH. He will side with the Friendship, because he has better chances surviving.

Still rooting for Rachel, Howie, or Janelle/Kaysar.

As am I. It will be bad if James wins. I mean I still like him but I don't want him to win because he'll probably put up Howie and Rachel.

Woo, three posts in a row. I'm going to make this meaningful, and post my individual thoughts on all the houseguests. Don't worry, I'll try to be fair towards the Friendship.

Beau - Chocolate Pee-Pee has to be the most anger-inducing phrase I've heard this season. But, aside from that, what do you remember Beau for? He's gay, and that's it. He's a danger, as well, because he doesn't really piss people off, and if he was in the top two, he'd probably win. Not a good player, just below the radar. When he does talk, it's usually nothing noteworthy. His boozin' was the worst yet for boozers in Big Brother. Grabbin' ass, takin' names.

Howie - You know my feelings on Hurricane Howie. Aside from the fumble last week with HOH, he's done enough to make me love him. His pre-HOH days were full of strategy and fun. He may be all about breasts, but he's funny when he talks about it. It's almost like he's self-aware that he's not all that, but maybe not. Post-HOH, with his rants on April make me love him, because he's basically telling her what I would love to say to her. Not only that, he's pounding it in her head, and making her want to leave. Go Hurricane Howie!

Ivette - Annoying. There's not much else to say, because she wears the annoying tag on her sleeve, day and night. Good player, I have to admit, but she is far too annoying to be liked. And her admiration of Cappy makes me wonder if she's really a lesbian.

April - Everything Howie has said. Basically, what really describes her from Howie's rants is that she is a wasted vote-off for any HOH right now. Anyone would be dumb to evict her now, because she's not a threat and she's weak. But, she still needs to go before Final Four, because she likely will pull out all the stops, especially if Jen is there too.

Jennifer - She screwed up just as badly as Kaysar this week, because she basically cost herself if an Outcast wins HOH this week. She stabbed them in the back for no reason (all the talk about evicting James after the HOH comp. was not needed, and she only dug herself a deeper grave), and she might as well have painted a target on her forehead. Bad time to step up.

Kaysar - Aside from the second chance he got and screwed up, I've always liked Kaysar. He went a bit too far in his strategy, and thus cost himself the game the first time. Second time? We'll see. Plus, he's a likeable guy, despite what CBS would like you to believe.

Janelle - She could be accused of riding coattails, but she deserves to be there, and is playing a great game. She stepped up after Ashlea's eviction, and hasn't looked back. Good strategist, and I hope she can make it to the end. Unfortunately, I was hoping for Kaysar and Janelle at the end, but that likely won't happen now (for obvious reasons).

Rachel - I haven't had a ton to go on for her since week one, but she's still likeable, and I would be more than pleased to see her and Howie in the final two. Will it happen? Who knows. I think the Outcasts want the HOH bad this week, and she might be the one to pull it off (Howie might get too aggressive for the competition, and Janelle might come up short).

Maggie - From Tuesday's show, she's the least hateable. But, from her HOH days, she can become the Devil in the house, so I can't possibly forget that. It would be a dream to see her turn on the Friendship, but that's not going to happen (I don't think...). Would love it so much, though.

I didn't go as in-depth as I wanted, but that gives you a basic idea of what I feel.

Edit: Forgot one, the sneaky monkey.

James - Obviously, he's the frontrunner right now, just because he's been saved about five times now, and still has yet to go anywhere. He's the damn pimple that just won't go away, no matter what you try to do. I would have thought Sarah was a frontrunner, thanks to him, but she went bye-bye already. Oh well. His new persona is crap, and he should be shown as the weasel that he is. You know, the weasel that never goes away, no matter what you do. Actually, I don't know what weasels do. Do they kill chickens or something? Meh, doesn't matter.

Exactly. Look at it this way:

One week: Howie turns on Sarah and James. Nominates them, evicts Sarah with original intentions of evicting James (until Veto God took himself off, as usual).

Second week: Jennifer saves James once, saves him twice, and would likely save him a third time.

What would you do? James would at least side with the majority, so at least buy himself a few more weeks, me thinks. I did, however, think his comment about backdooring was ridiculous. If he was HOH, I'm sure he would have tried to backdoor Kaysar. It's easy for him to talk down about it, when he was supposed to be backdoored this week.

Double eviction this week! What's going to happen is that today, when the person wins HoH, they go into the diary room and nominate two people live. Then, they go out to the living room and announce this to the houseguests. Then, the second eviction will happen on Saturday, and then a new HoH will come into place (I assume) and another eviction on Thursday. I'm not sure if there is a power of veto or not.. if the eviction is live on Saturday, then there probably will still be the power of veto tomorrow morning instead of a food comp. Anyway, here is the article:



http://jam.canoe.ca/Television/TV_Shows ... 78456.html

Gravy. This essentially means that the Outcasts + James could be up 4-3 within one week.

Or...

FUCK, I won't be able to see tonight's ep...

It's amazing how adictive this crap can get. I think I'll be going through Big Brother withdrawl once the show ends.

You and me both. Survivor probably won't cut it for me, especially with their own "special" twist. Same goes for Amazing Race: Family Edition. The least they could have done was had Rupert on the show with his family, like the rumors suggested.

If you want, I can pust the torrent link here later on/tomorrow so you can download it.

So, the "first" eviction is considered tonights, when Kaysar leaves, right? And then the "second one" will be whoever is evicted on SATURDAY from the two people put up tonight after the new HOH is set. But then what? Another eviction has to occur straight after the saturday one in order for it to truly be a double eviction WEEK. Otherwise it is just the normal eviction tonight, and a quickened eviction for next week that happens saturday, instead of next thursday. Will HOH be up for grabs again on Saturday? But the article doesn't say that. This doesn't make any sense to me. It's not truly a double eviction week here, unless I am missing something.

PEACE, Mike.

Unless I misunderstood, I believe Saturday's show will be identical to a Thursday show, with eviction and HOH comp. Then, business as usual, with a jam-packed Tuesday show (nominations, veto comp, veto ceremony, possible food/luxury comps) and Thursday's eviction.

Okay, cool then, that would make sense if that is how it's working.

PEACE, Mike.

Well, that's what I assumed, Mike. As for veto for this quick Saturday eviction, I don't think anyone knows yet if there will be veto or not. My guess is not, so tonight's nominations better count, whoever makes them.

I reaaaaaaaaaaally hope Howie/Janelle/Rachel wins, because then one of the two Core members they put up is guaranteedly gone!! I agree that there won't be a veto this week. Man... it all boils down to the HOH. Come on Howie/Janelle/Rachel!!! You can do it.

PEACE, Mike.

It would be incredible if the Outcasts won BOTH HOH comps this week, and we would be down to 3 in the Friendship, plus The Real Outcast, James.