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Post No green thumb, but Gardener a great thriller on the Horizon
Ralph Fiennes will be leading in the upcoming release The Constant Gardener which is due limited in theatres in late August.

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Based on the best-selling John le Carre novel and from the Academy Award®-nominated director of "City of God." In a remote area of Northern Kenya, activist Tessa Quayle (Rachel Weisz) is found brutally murdered. Tessa's companion, a doctor (Hubert Kounde) appears to have fled the scene, and the evidence points to a crime of passion. Members of the British High Commission in Nairobi assume that Tessa's widower, their mild-mannered and unambitious colleague Justin Quayle (Ralph Fiennes), will leave the matter to them. They could not be more wrong. Haunted by remorse and jarred by rumors of his late wife's infidelities, Quayle surprises everyone by embarking on a personal odyssey that will take him across three continents. Using his privileged access to diplomatic secrets, he will risk his own life, stopping at nothing to uncover and expose the truth -- a conspiracy more far-reaching and deadly than Quayle could ever have imagined. -- © Focus Features


This may be what I was hoping Interpreter would have been earlier this year. Perhaps due to Kidman's Interpreter being "outside" the system (just an innocent clueless interpreter) Pollack's movie lacks a bit of strong story. That's not to say it didn't have some taught moments, and that the twist of why she overheard what she overheard wasn't interesting, but The Constant Gardener just looks to take it to the next level. Using Fiennes' Quayle character as a great way to reveal secrets (he has access) to the unexpected assasination.

Anyone heard anything else about the film, or its source book?

Its being directed by Fernando Meirelles, so it could be very gritty and violent. Sadly, it could also be watered down...as these cross-over directors efforts sometimes tend to be.


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i've been watching the ADs for this one and while i thought i would be interested in the movie, every additional viewing of this trailer puts me off even more. its just .. such a bad trailer .. its not even funny


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The name turns me away

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yeah...dont much like the name and the trailer isnt fantastic, but City of God is one of my favorite films ever, so...lll see it.


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Really? I like the name. Reminds me of the metaphor I had when we were setting this place up. I used to say mods should be assigned to each forum and it would be their responsibility to carefuly "cultivate" their forums until they "bloomed." I see the gardener reference being about diligent "digging," in this case of information.

As to the trailer, I've never seen it. What's so off about it?

I liked City of God. Not as much as alot of other people did, but it certainly establishes a promising style from the director.


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the trailer starts off well but then, it gets all haphazard with too much crap happening. Add to that, it has one of the worst music in the background i've heard. The only thing the trailer is able to communicate is that the premise itself is intriguing .. other than that, i would consider it to be one of the most badly made trailers i've personally come across .. but thats just me.


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This is the arthouse movie I'm most looking forward to this year, the ads look good and I like the cast. I like international spy type thrillers and I'm also a sucker for great camera angles and interesting shots and this movie looks full of them from what I can tell, like the style of Traffic but with a meatier story. I'm impressed with the directing based on the ads, though we'll have to see how that turns out in the final full film.

The title makes sense in the context of the tale, it alludes to the personality of a man who the powers that be assumed would be mild and no problem. But of course he turned out to have more grit than they expected. As to trailers being incoherent, I cut slack for trailers to movies like this including The Interpreter earlier this year. They rarely make sense because if they did we'd figure out the story before we went in.


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Post Constant Gardener an Oscar Candidate?
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/constan ... /?show=all Great reviews so far

Brazilian director Fernando Meirelles, whose previous film, CITY OF GOD, won awards all over the world--and was nominated for Best Foreign Language Film at the 2004 Oscars--has crafted another highly entertaining yet important film. Beautifully shot in Kenya, Germany, Sudan, Manitoba, and London, THE CONSTANT GARDENER, based on a bestselling novel by John Le Carré, is an exciting mix of romance and spy thriller. Ralph Fiennes stars as Justin Quayle, a low-level British diplomat who has always gone about his work very quietly, not causing any problems. But after his radical wife, Tessa (Rachel Weisz), is killed, he becomes determined to find out why, thrusting himself into the middle of a very dangerous conspiracy. Jeffrey Caine's powerful screenplay alternates between flashbacks of Justin and Tessa's relationship and Justin's hunt for the truth, which makes him a target--although he doesn't know who is after him. Fine support is offered by Danny Huston as his close friend and confidant, Sandy; Bill Nighy as shady British official Sir Bernard Pellegrin; and Hubert Koundé as Arnold Bluhm, an African doctor who might have been a little too friendly with Tessa. Meirelles's pacing is outstanding, switching effortlessly between political intrigue, action adventure, and love story. And Fiennes and Weisz give strong performances playing complex characters that will continually surprise the audience. THE CONSTANT GARDENER is a thrilling tale from start to finish.

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City of God was NOT nominated for Best Foreign Language Film at the 2004 Oscar. It was submitted by Brazil to compete in 2003 Oscar but failed to get a nomination in the foreign language category. However, that allowed it to be eligible in all other categories in 2004 because Miramax released it in January of 2003, and it took advantage with 4 nominations total, including Best Director.


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Yeah I expect it to be a strong contender. Assuming it is as good as the trailers look. Best Picture, screenplay and lead actor noms look like a lock to me.


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I know its a long shot but I hope Rachel could get a Best Actress nod. I just loved her in the mummy. Ill probably pass on watching it at the movies, but its a must on DVD.

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Oscar contender for the best unusual name for a movie title


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<Dramatic music in the background>
Pedro: I must tend to this lawn and everything must sprout!!!
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Yeah, I can't stand the title.

Besides, it reminds me too much of Peter Sellers as Chance Gardener in "Being There"

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The buzz was good a few months ago (mainly because of Meirelles' name), but it actually went a little sour with the trickling in of some negative reviews.

I think it may do well with the critics, but City of God Part 2 it will not be.

Probably.


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Its in Netflix's library (eh... I don't know if its effective or anything yet though), if my account was reactivated I'd definatly add it to my queue...

I didn't love City of God, but I did think it was very well made.


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Dkmuto wrote:
The buzz was good a few months ago (mainly because of Meirelles' name), but it actually went a little sour with the trickling in of some negative reviews.

I think it may do well with the critics, but City of God Part 2 it will not be.

Probably.
Really? Havnt seen any negative reviews yet.

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Thank goodness. While I liked City of God, once is enough. It was a sort of meandering (on purpose) film that lingered on the small streets and youth exaggerated youth culture. To me, its like Koyaanisquatsi. The first one's great, but if you repeat the formula, they get a little tough to sit through. City of God should be a stand alone, and not attempt imitation.

As to Gardener: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/constant_gardener/ It's doing very well on rt, and I'm going to try and catch it opening weekend. i love a good espianage suspence conspiracy (what other adjective I could throw out there) movie. Unfortunately this year's Interpreter didn't quite hit the spot (as I've mentioned before). This looks to be the jewel of the year. God I'm holding out for 3 Days of the Condor type goodness!


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Here we go!

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/constant_gardener/

Sitting pretty strongly over at rt. This is the kinda movie that ppeals to me. Why? Above what I've already stated? Because there's a split between what cream of the Crop and regular critics are saying. To me, that means its a bit dryer on more cerebral. On the other hand, its still well enough liked even regularly. So Its about perfect.

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I've tended to think that the best movies are not the ones with the highest ratings. Because to get a 98% or such RT score you pretty much have to not offend anyone. So it doesn't put me off at all if a movie I'm anticipating has just an above average but not great RT score, it's a sign they have some quality but they also are taking some risks that some people might not like it.


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Well, I saw it last week, and I have to say I was dissappointed in the ultimate bad turn of events.

*spoilers* Is it just me, or is testing on unknowns just a kind of mundane piece of nasty work that's been covered millions of times? I was really expecting something more creative. Pharmacueticals have such a history of doing this that it wasn't even a stretch of the imagination, or some guesswork at future atrocity. Its more a historic retelling of Tuskegee and onwards. In that sense, I'm glad they thought someone had to revisit the conduct, but they went no further with their moral reprimand than to say Anglos who need affordable medicine could care less if its tested on unknowing and unknown African subjects. True, but not altogether ground breaking or even introspective. *end spoilers*

Did anyone else feel this way? Or was it just me?


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From the review section

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I thought it was pretty good. It got enough claps at the end of my sold out show. I also liked the actors mentioned - especially the cousin. I wasn't bothered by the lack of suspense / mystery - which is evident by the ending. Because I felt it was a nice movie that had them discover the truths / love about themselves and their marriage. Also it was nice that the movie didn't have any big Hollywood ending scene where the actors get saved.


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Well, I saw it last week, and I have to say I was dissappointed in the ultimate bad turn of events.

*spoilers* Is it just me, or is testing on unknowns just a kind of mundane piece of nasty work that's been covered millions of times? I was really expecting something more creative. Pharmacueticals have such a history of doing this that it wasn't even a stretch of the imagination, or some guesswork at future atrocity. Its more a historic retelling of Tuskegee and onwards. In that sense, I'm glad they thought someone had to revisit the conduct, but they went no further with their moral reprimand than to say Anglos who need affordable medicine could care less if its tested on unknowing and unknown African subjects. True, but not altogether ground breaking or even introspective. *end spoilers*

Did anyone else feel this way? Or was it just me?


I think I may be feeling the same way. So many people said this was truly an amazing movie with an amazing performance. My old Cross Country coach said he thought it was very good (and that is saying ALOT coming from him).

I just came from it, actually. I was a bit underwhelmed. It wasn't near the very best of the year so far (and that's saying something for such an incredibly weak year). I didn't think it was downright bad. I thought it was good; I'd recommend i, but I will say I was a bit disappointed. At some point I thought I was losing the story but scenes later, realized it was such a simple plan or "secret" to uncover just coated with so many fancy titles and labels (3mb's deoxtr... I don't even remember).

And to top it off, I was disappointed to find that Ralph Fiennes was just merely a great actor doing his part in the movie. Ya, he was great... but I was expecting something extraordinary from what I've heard.

I don't know really what to think now because I did actually enjoy it and thought it was pretty interesting. But they could have made it a bit more complicated or intriguing.

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It is based on a John Le Carre novel. He is famous for his long ponderous slowly moving thrillers. They filmed the movie in an exciting way and tried to advertise it to be more "Thrilling" than there was any chance of it being, since it's a Le Carre story. The best one can hope for with him is that it's a good moody character study with a moment or two of intrigue and some exotic locales. But I don't mind that if it's got actors I want to see and such. For some reason lately if I like the cast, that's almost good enough for me. Maybe that's why I liked the much-trashed Mystery Men. :)


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Oh, Raffiki and Archie, i'm going to drop this in. Its some comments I made to mdana when speaking of content.

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Bolded part is a bingo! That's what I was trying to say, and you said it better. But I'll elaborate. When I mentioned harkening back to 1349, I didn't mean literally. I meant they created this discussion about the invasion of a pandemic death. So, you may know its already "here" but look at it from a general, slightly more demanding audiance goer who may not know the technicals. The information on TB was not delivered as yours was above. That the two have historic association, that its very present today even within 1st world development, etc. There was a *dark forboding monologue* about how in the near future TB will sweep the world and wipe out half its population. Like a wave...from the "other" (probably China or Northern Africa, where we've historically pointed the finger for past pandemic origins including AIDS).

That's one thing. Now in light of that, you've got all these AIDS testees spitting into a cup. Tessa jokes "That's not how they test for AIDS." This implies she doesn't know about the past history and association of the two as you did either. That could have been a time where they could explain how TB is already present everywhere, but they missed it. In the film, they make it appear as a future threat and not a present one. They make it seem like the pharmecueticals are offering to test for one thing, while actually testing for another. Not one cough in the whole movie even hinted at old understandings of TB. Heck, even Moulin Rouge I knew what was coming about half way through the film. Here, there weren't even discussions of fever, digestion problems, anything.

So, where i'm trying to get at is this. Its easy to say "No. They could have AIDS, it has nothing to do with shoving experminetal TB drugs on them." Its quite a bit tougher to ponder "Well, they have AIDS, and we don't have a cure yet, so how bad is it to try new AIDS curing drugs on them. It could help couldn't it?" It shifts the question of ethics not only to blatant miscunduct, but to "do the means justify the ends?" That's a much tougher question. I don't mind if it had deterred a couple viewers. This particular film, won't actually make any of the viewers that went think too hard. They'll just walk out thinking "Oh, how wrong." In a world of black and white, I think this movie could have made people stop and think a bit more than that. "h the horror"is something so easily forgotten by this time next week. Hence the reason big Pharma does it all the time and doesn't get smacked too hard. And not to worry, Big Pharma will most likely argue the latter excuse rather than the former, so people should be prepared for it. "Well, it wasn't fully tested, but we felt people really needed it, it was there last chance to live so against our own better judgement we gave into their demands, etc, etc, etc." Its alot harder to argue people need TB drugs when they don't technically have it, or only have AIDS. AIDS weakens the immunity system, thus one is more likely to catch TB, but they're not anything similar. AIDS patients are more likely to catch a common cold too.

I do give Gardener credit for its final saying on the matter (in the funeral). They did not just pander to the evil image of big Pharma, they mentioned that "we" (that is, the West) hanker for "affordable" medicine, which is delivered to us only because the lives of those it was tested on, we consider to be so cheap and expendable. That's a better point than making this about big *evil* pharma too. What would happen if my kid came home with TB one day from school and the remedy was 100,000 dollars that I didn't have, my non-existant insurance plan wouldn't cover, etc.

The above point, and the gray scale conduct of "ethical" drug testing were almost delivered here, but then fell flat. It makes it almost more disheartening to see such promise in content and question squandered. And to just see Justin yell out that "This one's here and I can help it now" line that Tessa said earlier. I think because it was already appealing to a niche market, they actually could have made the movie a little bit more cerebral and it would have been just as, if not more, popular.

Hmmmm. Not as concise as yours, but I hope it clears up what I was trying to say was my main issues with the moral plot of the film?I haven't read the book either, so can't comment on it at all.


So yes. i was quite underwhelmed. I know I have a double standard, and had higher expectations going in, but it just didn't actually seem so ponderous, to use Archie's adjective. Though admittedly, it did feel slow, so that was dead on. And the acting was solid, not breath-taking. I don't really expect to see either one of the leads getting a nom for award season this year. Its pretty forgettable for the fact that it really wasn't anything we haven't heard a million times.


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