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Temujin
Speed Racer
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The problem is that your post, even if you do read it, doesn't agree with itself. Basically, what I'm seeing is that absolutely everyone disagrees with Empire on this one, including Empire himself \:D/
LOL!!! 
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MadGez
Dont Mess with the Gez
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:54 am Posts: 23258 Location: Melbourne Australia
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This will be a big hit. If it opens in the $45m range - a 5 multiplier in December can get it to about $210-$230m which is where I think it will finish. Very good gross.
I think Kong can edge towards $275m, while Potter 4 can look at about $240-$260m.
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Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:45 pm |
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___Emperor___
Speed Racer
Joined: Mon May 23, 2005 3:41 pm Posts: 153
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Temujin wrote: The problem is that your post, even if you do read it, doesn't agree with itself. Basically, what I'm seeing is that absolutely everyone disagrees with Empire on this one, including Empire himself \:D/ LOL!!! 
Yes, you just convinced me that both you and the other dolt read and understood my post, especially since you called me "empire" (twice!). I mean, if you can't even get my alias right, you can't be trusted with comprehending anything else either. There goes your credibility right there...
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Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:05 am |
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PresidentPalmer
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2005 2:34 am Posts: 1956
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Ok the 1st thing I need to ask are you just basing this on the Teaser Trailer? If you are well that's a big Mistake. This is a big book and honstly this is the only Childs movie that comes out for the christmas holiday. I'm sorry but I don't see King Kong appealing to Kids as much as Narnia does. Add in the fact this is a Disney film and that name alone gets big bucks no mater how bad the Movie is. Also They just added a big name Actor in Liam Neeson as the Voice of the Lion true he's not that big but still hes a good actor and could provide a wonderful voice.
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Rev
Romosexual!
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32581 Location: the last free city
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PresidentPalmer wrote: Ok the 1st thing I need to ask are you just basing this on the Teaser Trailer? If you are well that's a big Mistake. This is a big book and honstly this is the only Childs movie that comes out for the christmas holiday. I'm sorry but I don't see King Kong appealing to Kids as much as Narnia does. Add in the fact this is a Disney film and that name alone gets big bucks no mater how bad the Movie is. Also They just added a big name Actor in Liam Neeson as the Voice of the Lion true he's not that big but still hes a good actor and could provide a wonderful voice.
don't forget the church groups coming in buses to see it. 
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Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:17 am |
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Erendis
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:40 am Posts: 1527 Location: Emyn Arnen
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Algren wrote: It will dissapoint big time. People dont want this SHIT in cinemas a the moment.
"At the moment?" It's a Jesus story released during the CHRISTMAS season. 
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Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:15 am |
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Jeff
Christian's #1 Fan
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Most people won't even see the parallels between story because most people don't know the story behind the authors.
Same as the Lord of the Rings trilogy. I wouldn't expect that much success from Narnia, but $150 million is a lock.
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Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:28 am |
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neo_wolf
Extraordinary
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RogueCommander wrote: Most people won't even see the parallels between story because most people don't know the story behind the authors.
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Narnia is oobviouse about the jesus story,its as obviouse as you can get.
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Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:17 pm |
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___Emperor___
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Joined: Mon May 23, 2005 3:41 pm Posts: 153
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Jesus Story or not, I have read the books and they just dont compare in any way to Tolkien's vision...They will be nowhere near as successful. In fact, mentioning the 2 movies in the same sentence is already an insult to Tolkien.
Im sure the director, whoever he is, will find a way to fuck it up big time.
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Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:36 am |
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neo_wolf
Extraordinary
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___Emperor___ wrote: mentioning the 2 movies in the same sentence is already an insult to Tolkien.
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Tolkien was very good friends with c.w lewis,i think he would be proud of his lotr books being mentioned in the same breath as narnia.
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Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:42 am |
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Star Wars
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:18 pm Posts: 1638 Location: Alderaan
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RogueCommander wrote: Most people won't even see the parallels between story because most people don't know the story behind the authors.
Same as the Lord of the Rings trilogy. I wouldn't expect that much success from Narnia, but $150 million is a lock.
Nope... the only other lock this year for $150 million is HARRY POTTER 4... King Kong and Narnia are NOT locks...
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Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:01 am |
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___Emperor___
Speed Racer
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neo_wolf wrote: ___Emperor___ wrote: mentioning the 2 movies in the same sentence is already an insult to Tolkien.
. Tolkien was very good friends with c.w lewis,i think he would be proud of his lotr books being mentioned in the same breath as narnia.
I know they were good friends...They were both professors at Oxford together. What's your point? Since when does being good friend legitimize the quality of literature? Tolkien is far and away superior in all aspects of story telling, to Lewis. There is no point even comparing the 2. Lewis in no way shape or form comes close to the sophistication both in writing and story telling of Tolkien...This is not an argument or a debate, this is just plain trolling... Enough of this bullshit already.
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Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:00 am |
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insomniacdude
I just lost the game
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:00 pm Posts: 5868
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___Emperor___ wrote: This is not an argument or a debate, this is just plain trolling
:laugh: :laugh: You ain't seen nothing yet. neo wolf is a very very low grade troller, if he even is a troll.
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Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:27 am |
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neo_wolf
Extraordinary
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So saying the narnia books are as good as the lotr books is now trolling?
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Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:57 am |
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Moviebuf
Angels & Demons
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 6:44 pm Posts: 270
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Star Wars wrote: RogueCommander wrote: Most people won't even see the parallels between story because most people don't know the story behind the authors.
Same as the Lord of the Rings trilogy. I wouldn't expect that much success from Narnia, but $150 million is a lock. Nope... the only other lock this year for $150 million is HARRY POTTER 4... King Kong and Narnia are NOT locks...
Please tell me you are kidding. HP 4, King Kong, and Narnia are all LOCKS for 150 million. I don't how you can possibly see it differently. King Kong will pass 150 million before its second weekend is over. Narnia should be able to pass it in 2 weeks as well. I don't think you realize the fan bases behind these movies.
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Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:07 pm |
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Jason Ng
Iron Man
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:03 am Posts: 627 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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___Emperor___ wrote: Jesus Story or not, I have read the books and they just dont compare in any way to Tolkien's vision...They will be nowhere near as successful. In fact, mentioning the 2 movies in the same sentence is already an insult to Tolkien.
Im sure the director, whoever he is, will find a way to fuck it up big time.
You're insulting the chances of a movie and you don't even know who the director is? :???: Oh well, you probably don't know him, he's just the guy who directed Shrek (what in the world is Shrek??). :razz:
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Fri Jul 15, 2005 6:18 pm |
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___Emperor___
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Jason Ng wrote: ___Emperor___ wrote: Jesus Story or not, I have read the books and they just dont compare in any way to Tolkien's vision...They will be nowhere near as successful. In fact, mentioning the 2 movies in the same sentence is already an insult to Tolkien.
Im sure the director, whoever he is, will find a way to fuck it up big time. You're insulting the chances of a movie and you don't even know who the director is? :???: Oh well, you probably don't know him, he's just the guy who directed Shrek (what in the world is Shrek??). :razz:
Yes, and shrek is a 3rd grade comedy. It relies on fart and burp jokes to squeeze out some laughs. And because the film happens to be animated, and the fact that most people are stupid, they call it "comedy"...After all, an ugly green poorly animated ogre with an even worse fake accent farting, burping and taking the piss out of some donkey is what people these days call witty comedy.
I know many film makers, but I do not bother memorizing the names of talentless buffoons. And Narnia looks quite fake too. Very poor CGI.
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Temujin
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___Emperor___ wrote: Jason Ng wrote: ___Emperor___ wrote: Jesus Story or not, I have read the books and they just dont compare in any way to Tolkien's vision...They will be nowhere near as successful. In fact, mentioning the 2 movies in the same sentence is already an insult to Tolkien.
Im sure the director, whoever he is, will find a way to fuck it up big time. You're insulting the chances of a movie and you don't even know who the director is? :???: Oh well, you probably don't know him, he's just the guy who directed Shrek (what in the world is Shrek??). :razz: Yes, and shrek is a 3rd grade comedy. It relies on fart and burp jokes to squeeze out some laughs. And because the film happens to be animated, and the fact that most people are stupid, they call it "comedy"...After all, an ugly green poorly animated ogre with an even worse fake accent farting, burping and taking the piss out of some donkey is what people these days call witty comedy. I know many film makers, but I do not bother memorizing the names of talentless buffoons. And Narnia looks quite fake too. Very poor CGI.
And somehow it made 440 Million dollars to make it the 3rd highest grossing domestic flick of all time.
Looks like Narnia is DOOMED

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Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:28 am |
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Jason Ng
Iron Man
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:03 am Posts: 627 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Temujin wrote: ___Emperor___ wrote: Yes, and shrek is a 3rd grade comedy. It relies on fart and burp jokes to squeeze out some laughs. And because the film happens to be animated, and the fact that most people are stupid, they call it "comedy"...After all, an ugly green poorly animated ogre with an even worse fake accent farting, burping and taking the piss out of some donkey is what people these days call witty comedy.
I know many film makers, but I do not bother memorizing the names of talentless buffoons. And Narnia looks quite fake too. Very poor CGI. And somehow it made 440 Million dollars to make it the 3rd highest grossing domestic flick of all time. Looks like Narnia is DOOMED 
Yes, if a movie that relies on fart and burp jokes can make $440 mil. then Narnia's going to fail horribly. :razz:
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Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:35 pm |
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___Emperor___
Speed Racer
Joined: Mon May 23, 2005 3:41 pm Posts: 153
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Temujin wrote: ___Emperor___ wrote: Jason Ng wrote: ___Emperor___ wrote: Jesus Story or not, I have read the books and they just dont compare in any way to Tolkien's vision...They will be nowhere near as successful. In fact, mentioning the 2 movies in the same sentence is already an insult to Tolkien.
Im sure the director, whoever he is, will find a way to fuck it up big time. You're insulting the chances of a movie and you don't even know who the director is? :???: Oh well, you probably don't know him, he's just the guy who directed Shrek (what in the world is Shrek??). :razz: Yes, and shrek is a 3rd grade comedy. It relies on fart and burp jokes to squeeze out some laughs. And because the film happens to be animated, and the fact that most people are stupid, they call it "comedy"...After all, an ugly green poorly animated ogre with an even worse fake accent farting, burping and taking the piss out of some donkey is what people these days call witty comedy. I know many film makers, but I do not bother memorizing the names of talentless buffoons. And Narnia looks quite fake too. Very poor CGI. And somehow it made 440 Million dollars to make it the 3rd highest grossing domestic flick of all time. Looks like Narnia is DOOMED 
I agree.
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Sat Jul 16, 2005 9:23 pm |
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MadGez
Dont Mess with the Gez
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:54 am Posts: 23258 Location: Melbourne Australia
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I saw the trailer in a theatre for the first time last night and it looks great! kids and adults will eat it up - just wait.
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Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:20 pm |
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Jason Ng
Iron Man
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:03 am Posts: 627 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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MadGez wrote: I saw the trailer in a theatre for the first time last night and it looks great! kids and adults will eat it up - just wait.
Emperor have you seen the trailer?
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Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:27 pm |
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Archangel
Forum General
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 9998 Location: Australia
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Comparing Narnia to Peter Pan, gosh.... :???:
Narnia has more production weight and is a scale much larger than Peter Pan. This has been on the radar for quite some time, the fans are really hungry, and unlike Peter Pan - this is the first time the beloved classic is on the big screen.
Regardless of what you think of the book, i'm really optimistic about its chances and i will not be surprised if it beats both Harry Potter 4 and King Kong for supremacy in Nov/Dec. There's a lot going for it: it appeals to all ages, it's a classic story, the book is one of the best of all-time, it is handled by a brilliant director. When you mix these qualities with the Christmas/Holiday season, its right on the ball.
I'm more excited about its International potential, it will launch the weekend before Christmas in most markets and will be the fresher and friendlier choice for that frame.....KK's sting and legs will not match Narnia. I really think Narnia's release dates are smarter than that of KK.
Predictions:
Harry Potter 4 - $270m + $610m = $880m
Narnia - $280m + $500m = $780m
King Kong - $210m + $380m = $590m
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Algren
now we know
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I didn't realise that the film has 'Blitz' in it too. For that i take back what i said about it being boring.
Although the poster doesnt lead us to beleive that it may have some action in. It looks so god damn boring!
I say:
$43 Million / $105 Million
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Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:13 am |
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zingy
College Boy Z
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Algren wrote: I didn't realise that the film has 'Blitz' in it too. For that i take back what i said about it being boring.
Although the poster doesnt lead us to beleive that it may have some action in. It looks so god damn boring!
I say:
$43 Million / $105 Million
With a $43 million opening weekend, it's guaranteed to make $150+ million total. Legs are never that bad around Christmas.
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