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What grade would you give this film?
A 54%  54%  [ 59 ]
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C 9%  9%  [ 10 ]
D 3%  3%  [ 3 ]
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 War of the Worlds (2005) 
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Box wrote:
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So... how much are they paying you? :razz:

That was straight from the heart, brother :wink: .



Ah, well, I knew it wasn't straight from the brain.

Perhaps your immense intellect shields your true feelings on the film.


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Star Wars wrote:
Anyone else agrees that the son should've just died instead of a happy-Spielbergian-type-reunion-ending? Robbie should have died!


That was my only major problem with the film. Damn it Speilberg, you sentimental twat ](*,) I'm surprised he didn't make it that the red weed revived everyone while he was at it.

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BennyBlanco wrote:
Perhaps your immense intellect shields your true feelings on the film.


Benny, I'm just teasing you. :)


I'm glad you enjoyed it.

I think many people's response to the ending/story will be what mine was to The Village's. I didn't mind the crappy twist there at all, because I felt it was a romance above all and everything else. With WOTW, I feel the ending took too much away from it (and there was some other stuff here and there), but I'm sure most will be just fine with it.

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Box wrote:
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Perhaps your immense intellect shields your true feelings on the film.


Benny, I'm just teasing you. :)


I'm glad you enjoyed it.

I think many people's response to the ending/story will be what mine was to The Village's. I didn't mind the crappy twist there at all, because I felt it was a romance above all and everything else. With WOTW, I feel the ending took too much away from it (and there was some other stuff here and there), but I'm sure most will be just fine with it.

More power to them.

I know buddy, just throwing some barbs back your way (I knew I should have thrown a smilie in there).


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Maverikk wrote:
For instance, it wasn't too bad that Cruise just happened to get lucky and find the only car in the world that wasn't a military vehicle that would still run, but it was dumb that he also found one that didn't require gasoline, no matter how far he traveled. What the hell was that about? .



He told the mechanic to try replacing a certain part, to see if it would start then. And got lucky when he came back with his kids, because his suggestion had worked. Of course, he neglected to tell anyone else what part was needed to get more cars running.

And weren't they in NYC at first? Boston's only 211 miles away. As well as, there were still places that had power, at that point.


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They were alergic to germs. The shields that protected their tripod killing machines developed a quick case of it, too, as those shields mysteriously quit working around the same time the aliens were being infected. Sloppy stuff, and not what I expect from Spielberg.


You won't believe this!! I turned to my friend next to me and said the exact same thing? Either that dude inside it has to keep that button pressed at all times or the machine dies with its master ... freak.


More story plot holes coming soon.

no wait ... they're coming right now.

a) All electrical devices, mechanical devices stopped working. Battery powered watch stopped working. yet a point and shoot camera plus video cam are fully operational.

b) When cars across a 100 kms all stop working, they convieniently move out to open enough of a room for 1 van to easily pass by eithout slowiing down across the entire 100 kms.

c) When a plane lands and destroys everything around a house and some other houses, our hero's car remains unscratched

d) when our hero attacks one little part of our huge mechanical friend with an axe, the alien inside the machine decides to retract that little part and not do anything .. hell .. it decides to just walk away after its thing is chopped off. Put me in there and i'd step on the bloody house.

e) The ending right? okay. I've looked at this from every conceivable angle. I don't buy it. we got a specie that seems more intelligent than us. they didn't realize that immunization against everything is required? Ok so lets say from where they come from, they don't need to worry about it. They studied us for sooooooooo long .. they didn't notice how life on planet earth evolves and certain people become immune while others die of a common cold? okay .. i guess they didnt catch on to it. What about the fact that in the last tens of years, every expidition requires immunity shots ... if they've observed us for so long, have they not learnt from what us humans always do? so much for planning.

f) there is always a possibility of failure. the aliens failed ... so what? the end? no second wave of attack after rectifing a problem?

g) the shields .... the shields!!!! that pissed me off soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo bad!!!!

h) so in their entire planning, they managed to hide these machines from us yet couldn't send 1 individual of their own to feed off the blood and see if everything is cool? even in a war, we send someone in first!!! if its a surprise attack, we get some dudes in there before hand ...


arrghhhhhh


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Just once I'd like to see a movie about aliens where they do take over the earth, becuase let's face it, if some lifeforce decided to travel 90 billion light years to start a fight, they'd be prepared to do so in all facets. I hated that about Signs and I hated it about War. They have been watching us for 1000's of years, yet they can't protect themselves from our diseases. Do you guys remember V? In that story the Visitors immune themselves from everything we can throw at them and the only way we defeat them is that there is interspecies mating and one of the twins dies. The scientists get a bacteria f rom the baby and create a virus that can defeat the Visitors. Much more plausible than this. I am disappointed becasue I was so engrossed in the film for the first hour, and that is what makes me sad.


hear hear!! V was freaking cool


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i thought i was going to watch the war of the worlds. but instead i got a case study of a stupid family.

ugh, the only reason I giev this movie a C (and not an F) is because the effects were good and there were a couple of good scenes with the tripods and the mayhem.

but ugh! listen, I was in NYC for both the WTC attacks and the big blackout. people don't react to emergencies the way they did in this movie.

](*,) ](*,)

i know a movie has to have a plot, but the plot here wasn't freakin an alien invasion. it was some stupid guy trying to make it to boston (which by the way somehow manages to have a clean street) just to have his wife say "thanks" UGH!!

this is why Lord of the Rings was awesome. It took itself seriously and tried to show you another world. this movie was supposed to frighten us (aka the radio broadcast in the 1950's). instead, freakin little girl kept trying to make me feel all emotional or something. Puhlease!

PS - the ending, btw, is ok. at least it's ironic. but what a crap script. ugh ugh ugh


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War of the Worlds is like premature ejaculation.


i think thats the best way to sum it up. everything was great... hell.. even the shit i nitpicked uptil the last part .. i'm very much with baumer on this one ... things just went wrong after robbins showed up .. not cause of robbins but because the plausability of the movie just went downhill from there


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There is no grounds for making such a sweeping generalization. Unless you have a very low threshold for what a "good" performance is, Cruise can hardly lay claim to being consistently "good". He is usually "acceptable" or "ok", sure, but "good"? No.


The acting was not among WOTW's strengths. Cruise's performance might be deemed "good" perhaps in comparison to Robbins' ridiculous shtick.


i thought they all acted fine


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Maverikk wrote:
The ending was pretty lame and anticlimatic. I would say that my fears about this film being rushed so they could make the July 4th date were confirmed.


you hit the nail on the head. =D>


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More story plot holes coming soon.

no wait ... they're coming right now.

a) All electrical devices, mechanical devices stopped working. Battery powered watch stopped working. yet a point and shoot camera plus video cam are fully operational.

Yep, noticed that one, too.

b) When cars across a 100 kms all stop working, they convieniently move out to open enough of a room for 1 van to easily pass by eithout slowiing down across the entire 100 kms.

Pretty curteous of those motorists

c) When a plane lands and destroys everything around a house and some other houses, our hero's car remains unscratched

Not only that, but the debri all fell in such a way that he had a perfectly good amount of road to drive out of the wreckage.

d) when our hero attacks one little part of our huge mechanical friend with an axe, the alien inside the machine decides to retract that little part and not do anything .. hell .. it decides to just walk away after its thing is chopped off. Put me in there and i'd step on the bloody house.

As was mentioned, why bother even searching? Why not just level the house and search through the debri for any survivors?

e) The ending right? okay. I've looked at this from every conceivable angle. I don't buy it. we got a specie that seems more intelligent than us. they didn't realize that immunization against everything is required? Ok so lets say from where they come from, they don't need to worry about it. They studied us for sooooooooo long .. they didn't notice how life on planet earth evolves and certain people become immune while others die of a common cold? okay .. i guess they didnt catch on to it. What about the fact that in the last tens of years, every expidition requires immunity shots ... if they've observed us for so long, have they not learnt from what us humans always do? so much for planning.

They should have watched ER or General Hospital once, huh?

f) there is always a possibility of failure. the aliens failed ... so what? the end? no second wave of attack after rectifing a problem?

We wouldn't be dumb enough to send every last human being into a combat zone, especially if we could easily overpower the enemy, but I guess they do things differently.

g) the shields .... the shields!!!! that pissed me off soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo bad!!!!

It's not their fault that they got a flu bug and died...lol

h) so in their entire planning, they managed to hide these machines from us yet couldn't send 1 individual of their own to feed off the blood and see if everything is cool? even in a war, we send someone in first!!! if its a surprise attack, we get some dudes in there before hand ...

It wasn't a very tightly written script, that's for sure. It has entertainment value, but it falls apart when you consider how sloppy and rushed everything is.

arrghhhhhh


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I_Was_Your_Sam wrote:
Maverikk wrote:
The ending was pretty lame and anticlimatic. I would say that my fears about this film being rushed so they could make the July 4th date were confirmed.


you hit the nail on the head. =D>



I agree. There is nothing in the film that would not be fixed with a little bit more tiem to think it through.

The script needs much reworking.

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Okay, since I will not read the thread, trying to avoid spoilers, I've got just one question. Did the Spielberg not show many money shots in the trailers because he didn't want to show the best he had beforehand or is it just that there are simply not many money shots in the movie?


not that many... camera wise, his style is to keep around cruise and fanning and their surroundings. :down:


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Maverikk wrote:
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More story plot holes coming soon.

no wait ... they're coming right now.

a) All electrical devices, mechanical devices stopped working. Battery powered watch stopped working. yet a point and shoot camera plus video cam are fully operational.

Yep, noticed that one, too.

b) When cars across a 100 kms all stop working, they convieniently move out to open enough of a room for 1 van to easily pass by eithout slowiing down across the entire 100 kms.

Pretty curteous of those motorists

c) When a plane lands and destroys everything around a house and some other houses, our hero's car remains unscratched

Not only that, but the debri all fell in such a way that he had a perfectly good amount of road to drive out of the wreckage.

d) when our hero attacks one little part of our huge mechanical friend with an axe, the alien inside the machine decides to retract that little part and not do anything .. hell .. it decides to just walk away after its thing is chopped off. Put me in there and i'd step on the bloody house.

As was mentioned, why bother even searching? Why not just level the house and search through the debri for any survivors?

e) The ending right? okay. I've looked at this from every conceivable angle. I don't buy it. we got a specie that seems more intelligent than us. they didn't realize that immunization against everything is required? Ok so lets say from where they come from, they don't need to worry about it. They studied us for sooooooooo long .. they didn't notice how life on planet earth evolves and certain people become immune while others die of a common cold? okay .. i guess they didnt catch on to it. What about the fact that in the last tens of years, every expidition requires immunity shots ... if they've observed us for so long, have they not learnt from what us humans always do? so much for planning.

They should have watched ER or General Hospital once, huh?

f) there is always a possibility of failure. the aliens failed ... so what? the end? no second wave of attack after rectifing a problem?

We wouldn't be dumb enough to send every last human being into a combat zone, especially if we could easily overpower the enemy, but I guess they do things differently.

g) the shields .... the shields!!!! that pissed me off soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo bad!!!!

It's not their fault that they got a flu bug and died...lol

h) so in their entire planning, they managed to hide these machines from us yet couldn't send 1 individual of their own to feed off the blood and see if everything is cool? even in a war, we send someone in first!!! if its a surprise attack, we get some dudes in there before hand ...

It wasn't a very tightly written script, that's for sure. It has entertainment value, but it falls apart when you consider how sloppy and rushed everything is.

arrghhhhhh



oooh .. i didn't notice that debris thing you mentioned. .. good stuff.

this is the problem with a movie like this. I know i'm nitpicking but all these small things become more noticeable when you give a stupid ending.forget ER .. they never saw medicine Man!! it would have been a great movie with stupid errors otherwise ...


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absolutely luved it :D even with it's story faults.
the destructions,aliens,father protecting kids,supense and laughs were all great.

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It's what drives me nuts about films like this. These guys can come here, take out our defenses, guard against nuclear bombs, stay buried for 1000's of years, but they forgot to safeguard against disease? WEAK!!! You want a blueprint for a film like this, watch V and V The Final Battle.



Diseases keep mutating over the years. New strains of flus, etc. Little parasitic buggers that can be tough to kill, etc. It doesn't matter how brainy the aliens are, or how long they've studied humanity. Or how long they might have experimented with trying to safeguard themselves against the viruses, bacteria, etc. of Earth. If they miss just one little itty bitty thing, it can be the equivalent of the bubonic plague to them, simply because they don't have the proper immunity/antibodies.


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Kali_Ariel wrote:
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It's what drives me nuts about films like this. These guys can come here, take out our defenses, guard against nuclear bombs, stay buried for 1000's of years, but they forgot to safeguard against disease? WEAK!!! You want a blueprint for a film like this, watch V and V The Final Battle.



Diseases keep mutating over the years. New strains of flus, etc. Little parasitic buggers that can be tough to kill, etc. It doesn't matter how brainy the aliens are, or how long they've studied humanity. Or how long they might have experimented with trying to safeguard themselves against the viruses, bacteria, etc. of Earth. If they miss just one little itty bitty thing, it can be the equivalent of the bubonic plague to them, simply because they don't have the proper immunity/antibodies.


which is why even if they don't face a problem like this in their own civilization, they'd see that we do ... we take these precautions and instead of this all out assault, would first send in their own test subjects to check if everything is in order. Why attack a planet where you can't survive? remember, they're observing us, learning from us .. how did they skip over something so freaking significant!?!? thats my issue. no matter what angle i look at this, there will always be one at the end of the day that will crop up and not make sense. the movie just ended up putting itself in a stalemate position.


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sorry .. i meant stalemate


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Kali_Ariel wrote:
Diseases keep mutating over the years. New strains of flus, etc. Little parasitic buggers that can be tough to kill, etc. It doesn't matter how brainy the aliens are, or how long they've studied humanity. Or how long they might have experimented with trying to safeguard themselves against the viruses, bacteria, etc. of Earth. If they miss just one little itty bitty thing, it can be the equivalent of the bubonic plague to them, simply because they don't have the proper immunity/antibodies.


They were DUMB! Would we go to another planet (or the moon) and think we could breathe? No way, because we know our bodies and what they require to breathe and live, and that's oxygen. These dumb aliens who don't know their own immune systems and don't realize that water is deadly to them before they invade a planet that is made up mostly of water, like in Signs, are not excusable. It's sloppy writing. It's not creative, but even if they wanted to use the germ killing ending, the execution of it was losy. Very anticlimatic.


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Maverikk wrote:
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Diseases keep mutating over the years. New strains of flus, etc. Little parasitic buggers that can be tough to kill, etc. It doesn't matter how brainy the aliens are, or how long they've studied humanity. Or how long they might have experimented with trying to safeguard themselves against the viruses, bacteria, etc. of Earth. If they miss just one little itty bitty thing, it can be the equivalent of the bubonic plague to them, simply because they don't have the proper immunity/antibodies.


They were DUMB! Would we go to another planet (or the moon) and think we could breathe? No way, because we know our bodies and what they require to breathe and live, and that's oxygen. These dumb aliens who don't know their own ammune systems and don't realize that water is deadly to them before they invade a planet that is made up mostly of water, like in Signs, are not excusable. It's sloppy writing. It's not creative, but even if they wanted to use the germ killing ending, the execution of it was losy. Very anticlimatic.


and it comes back to the fact that we'll send a few people ... no more .... if something goes wrong, we'll destroy the bloody aircraft they came in before it even enters earth atmosphere. once again, aliens observing us would learn this from us if they didn't think of it themselves. like i said .. this movie should have just left that entire "learning the earth for a long time" out


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and it comes back to the fact that we'll send a few people ... no more .... if something goes wrong, we'll destroy the bloody aircraft they came in before it even enters earth atmosphere. once again, aliens observing us would learn this from us if they didn't think of it themselves. like i said .. this movie should have just left that entire "learning the earth for a long time" out


They should have worked on it for 6 more months and tweaked the script and released it for the winter holidays. This was a rush job with $$$ signs dancing in their heads for a big 4th of July release date. They didn't even start filming until very late last year, if memory serves me right. Way too much quality was sacrificed to throw this out there for a summer release. It's short runtime also hinders it, because it could have used an extra 15 minutes to give us an acceptable conclusion that didn't feel as if we missed something.


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so what's steven's reasons for all the problems with the film some of you guys are having :-k i wonder.

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:-k .....i feel a little bit wierd about the movie
there were quite a few plot holes that i really notice (i dont usually see them)
The Ending was..OK, not the best, im like everybody else here ****they studied for so long, yet they forgot they cant survive her :roll:

but still it was a great fun movie!, i liked it
The Aliens were cool, the ships were cool! Tom and Dakota gave great performences!

sadly i will give the movie a B+ :cry: this was my most anticipated movie if the year and im a little disappointed!


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Anyone else agrees that the son should've just died instead of a happy-Spielbergian-type-reunion-ending? Robbie should have died!


i agree with you on that!
the kid could of easily died on that explosion!

stupid kid why didnt you DIE!! #-o :razz:


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