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Nice charts, scottb! =D>


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10. The Passion of the Christ - $370.8m


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scottb wrote:
Yeah but you can compare 2005 to 2004 which also had DVD, and VOD. If you look here http://www.entdata.com/charts/seasonal.html you can see 2005 is only down 7% from last year at this point. Thats not a number that can't be overcome later in the year its not like 2004 is blowing 2005 out of the water. 2004 had the Olympics in the fall and an ok holiday slate so its very possible that 2005 still ends up higher then last year.


According to that chart, this year is only $267 million down on last year. If you take away Passion of the Christ - which could be considered a bit of an anomaly, BO-wise - then last years box office comes to 3741, and 2005 is actually up on last year by $103 million.


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Snrub wrote:
scottb wrote:
Yeah but you can compare 2005 to 2004 which also had DVD, and VOD. If you look here http://www.entdata.com/charts/seasonal.html you can see 2005 is only down 7% from last year at this point. Thats not a number that can't be overcome later in the year its not like 2004 is blowing 2005 out of the water. 2004 had the Olympics in the fall and an ok holiday slate so its very possible that 2005 still ends up higher then last year.


According to that chart, this year is only $267 million down on last year. If you take away Passion of the Christ - which could be considered a bit of an anomaly, BO-wise - then last years box office comes to 3741, and 2005 is actually up on last year by $103 million.


But, this year is not up on last year though :-k


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hans wrote:
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scottb wrote:
Yeah but you can compare 2005 to 2004 which also had DVD, and VOD. If you look here http://www.entdata.com/charts/seasonal.html you can see 2005 is only down 7% from last year at this point. Thats not a number that can't be overcome later in the year its not like 2004 is blowing 2005 out of the water. 2004 had the Olympics in the fall and an ok holiday slate so its very possible that 2005 still ends up higher then last year.


According to that chart, this year is only $267 million down on last year. If you take away Passion of the Christ - which could be considered a bit of an anomaly, BO-wise - then last years box office comes to 3741, and 2005 is actually up on last year by $103 million.


But, this year is not up on last year though :-k


Not if you include Passion of the Christ's numbers, no. But the fact that the deficit between this year and the last can be wiped out completely by removing the box office of one film - one film that brought out a large number of people that rarely venture to theatres, and for multiple repeat viewings, no less - would indicate that maybe we're overreacting a tad when we start predicting doom and gloom for the future of the box-office.

Prospects are also high for the remainder of the year. Last year at this point, Harry Potter 3 had already made the bulk of its $245 million gross, inflating totals for the year somewhat, whereas this years Harry Potter film isn't due for release until November.


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Snrub wrote:
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scottb wrote:
Yeah but you can compare 2005 to 2004 which also had DVD, and VOD. If you look here http://www.entdata.com/charts/seasonal.html you can see 2005 is only down 7% from last year at this point. Thats not a number that can't be overcome later in the year its not like 2004 is blowing 2005 out of the water. 2004 had the Olympics in the fall and an ok holiday slate so its very possible that 2005 still ends up higher then last year.


According to that chart, this year is only $267 million down on last year. If you take away Passion of the Christ - which could be considered a bit of an anomaly, BO-wise - then last years box office comes to 3741, and 2005 is actually up on last year by $103 million.


But, this year is not up on last year though :-k


Not if you include Passion of the Christ's numbers, no. But the fact that the deficit between this year and the last can be wiped out completely by removing the box office of one film - one film that brought out a large number of people that rarely venture to theatres, and for multiple repeat viewings, no less - would indicate that maybe we're overreacting a tad when we start predicting doom and gloom for the future of the box-office.

Prospects are also high for the remainder of the year. Last year at this point, Harry Potter 3 had already made the bulk of its $245 million gross, inflating totals for the year somewhat, whereas this years Harry Potter film isn't due for release until November.


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Silence, you fool.


Fine!

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If the money hadn't gone to the passion - it would have been dispersed amoungst other films. Hollywood analysts that say this shit are stupid.

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Michael wrote:
If the money hadn't gone to the passion - it would have been dispersed amoungst other films. Hollywood analysts that say this shit are stupid.


Pffft! So you're saying that if The Passion had never been released, Church groups would've organised weekly trips to see, what - Agent Cody Banks 2: Destination London?


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Snrub wrote:
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If the money hadn't gone to the passion - it would have been dispersed amoungst other films. Hollywood analysts that say this shit are stupid.


Pffft! So you're saying that if The Passion had never been released, Church groups would've organised weekly trips to see, what - Agent Cody Banks 2: Destination London?


Precisely. The Passion killed Agent Cody Banks 2: Destination London potential to become the 3rd highest grossing flick of the year.


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hans wrote:
Precisely. The Passion killed Agent Cody Banks 2: Destination London potential to become the 3rd highest grossing flick of the year.


If it had had a graphic scene or two of Frankie Muniz being "scoured", I would've organised my own weekly group trips to see it.


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Snrub wrote:
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Precisely. The Passion killed Agent Cody Banks 2: Destination London potential to become the 3rd highest grossing flick of the year.


If it had had a graphic scene or two of Frankie Muniz being "scoured", I would've organised my own weekly group trips to see it.


:laugh:, the guy in your avater has a rather large cock, or something similar


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One thing's for sure, that's a huge cock.


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I personally liked Shrek 2 and was happy to see a kids type movie make it toward the top instead of a fanboy FX type movie ( I love those as well) just nice to see a change, same deal with Titanic..

and actually working at a theatre this year yes has been slower than 2004, but it has still been super busy about as busy as say 2002 or 2003... It drives me crazy when we have to be better than the year past...the exact same thing happened in 2000 after the huge 1999 year...people need to understand that the BO is alot like the stock market, some years it will be way up and some years it will be down FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR...it doesnt mean its down all together, yes we are down from 2004 but its not like we are all the way back to like 1992 or anything...last year was a fluke with Passion and Shrek, it happens and will happen again one of these years and then again the next year when there is not a suprise break out everyone will be making these posts again saying how the BO is sucking... an endless cycle


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loyalfromlondon wrote:
One thing's for sure, that's a huge cock.


YOU'RE a huge cock! :mad:

And thanks! :grin:


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Animosity Reigns wrote:
I personally liked Shrek 2 and was happy to see a kids type movie make it toward the top instead of a fanboy FX type movie ( I love those as well) just nice to see a change, same deal with Titanic..

and actually working at a theatre this year yes has been slower than 2004, but it has still been super busy about as busy as say 2002 or 2003... It drives me crazy when we have to be better than the year past...the exact same thing happened in 2000 after the huge 1999 year...people need to understand that the BO is alot like the stock market, some years it will be way up and some years it will be down FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR...it doesnt mean its down all together, yes we are down from 2004 but its not like we are all the way back to like 1992 or anything...last year was a fluke with Passion and Shrek, it happens and will happen again one of these years and then again the next year when there is not a suprise break out everyone will be making these posts again saying how the BO is sucking... an endless cycle


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The week just started.


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loyalfromlondon wrote:
The week just started.


Post of the week! =D> =D> =D>


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The week just started.


Post of the week! =D> =D> =D>


I agree.


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http://www.imdb.com/news/sb/2005-07-01/

Even sales for Shrek 2 and The Incredibles are almost in a slump now so I think that Shrek 2 may of won the box office war but due to way too many repeat viewings by kids in the theaters, they are tired of the green old monster that they wont even buy the dvd to see it. I think the same thing happened to the Incredibles. So Im guessing too many repeat viewings in theaterse= less dvd sales. Thats the price you pay I think


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El_Masked_esteROIDe_user wrote:
http://www.imdb.com/news/sb/2005-07-01/

Even sales for Shrek 2 and The Incredibles are almost in a slump now so I think that Shrek 2 may of won the box office war but due to way too many repeat viewings by kids in the theaters, they are tired of the green old monster that they wont even buy the dvd to see it. I think the same thing happened to the Incredibles. So Im guessing too many repeat viewings in theaterse= less dvd sales. Thats the price you pay I think



Eh, what? That's ridiculous. Both Shrek 2 and The Incredibles were huge successes on DVD. They are both among the top DVDs ever released.

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http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/?vi ... ate&p=.htm

It's an interesting chart. This year is behind 2004, 2003, and 2002, though not by a whole lot. We're starting to catch up, I think.


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Zingaling wrote:
2005 is still in the game to beat 2004. The fall and winter line up is strong this year, which should make up for the big loss in the Spring and potentially, a small dropoff for the summer.


This year is still almost down 9.5% from the same time last year.The fall and winter are going to have to be kick ass or this will be the first year in a long time where the box office decreased. #-o

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Zingaling wrote:
2005 is still in the game to beat 2004. The fall and winter line up is strong this year, which should make up for the big loss in the Spring and potentially, a small dropoff for the summer.


This year is still almost down 9.5% from the same time last year.The fall and winter are going to have to be kick ass or this will be the first year in a long time where the box office decreased. #-o

If I remember correctly, only 2 movies in the fall/winter made $200 million (Incredibles & Meet the Fockers). There were 7 $100 million films (Aviator, Million Dollar Baby, Lemony Snicket, Ocean's 12, National Treasure, The Polar Express, and The Grudge). I think 2005 can beat that.


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Yeah, I also think 2005's fall lineup can beat 2004. I mean, look at the month of September. I don't think I've ever seen such a strong lineup for such a terrible month for movies.


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El_Masked_esteROIDe_user wrote:
http://www.imdb.com/news/sb/2005-07-01/

Even sales for Shrek 2 and The Incredibles are almost in a slump now so I think that Shrek 2 may of won the box office war but due to way too many repeat viewings by kids in the theaters, they are tired of the green old monster that they wont even buy the dvd to see it. I think the same thing happened to the Incredibles. So Im guessing too many repeat viewings in theaterse= less dvd sales. Thats the price you pay I think



Eh, what? That's ridiculous. Both Shrek 2 and The Incredibles were huge successes on DVD. They are both among the top DVDs ever released.

Some more about it:

Shrek 2 & Incredibles Sales

Interesting that 80% of the total discs sold for a movie are sold in the first 2 weeks.


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