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Post More violence in the Netherlands
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/11 ... index.html

Well, there goes the myth of the "tolerant" Europe. I guess everyone cane be tolerant when 99% of the population is the same as you are, but the moment you get some ethnic tension, bombs start going off.

There's a piece of the article that's troubling to me, though: The Tarieq Ibnu Zyad Islamic school, said to have links with a mosque that has allegedly been a gathering place for radicals, also suffered a minor attack a year ago. Dekkers said police had visited Islamic schools in the city, but had not decided on additional security measures.

So the police knew the school was a gathering place for terrorists, but hadn't made up its mind on what to do about it?


Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:34 am
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Post Re: More violence in the Netherlands
Krem wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/11/08/dutch.bomb.ap/index.html

Well, there goes the myth of the "tolerant" Europe. I guess everyone cane be tolerant when 99% of the population is the same as you are, but the moment you get some ethnic tension, bombs start going off.

There's a piece of the article that's troubling to me, though: The Tarieq Ibnu Zyad Islamic school, said to have links with a mosque that has allegedly been a gathering place for radicals, also suffered a minor attack a year ago. Dekkers said police had visited Islamic schools in the city, but had not decided on additional security measures.

So the police knew the school was a gathering place for terrorists, but hadn't made up its mind on what to do about it?

If they knew of a gathering place for terrorists, they might want to not shut it down, but instead electonically eavesdrop and/or use that knowledge to infiltrate. Maybe they were doing that, maybe not, but it's a valid possibility.


Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:55 am
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Post Re: More violence in the Netherlands
Krem wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/11/08/dutch.bomb.ap/index.html

Well, there goes the myth of the "tolerant" Europe. I guess everyone cane be tolerant when 99% of the population is the same as you are, but the moment you get some ethnic tension, bombs start going off.

There's a piece of the article that's troubling to me, though: The Tarieq Ibnu Zyad Islamic school, said to have links with a mosque that has allegedly been a gathering place for radicals, also suffered a minor attack a year ago. Dekkers said police had visited Islamic schools in the city, but had not decided on additional security measures.

So the police knew the school was a gathering place for terrorists, but hadn't made up its mind on what to do about it?


Radical <> terrorists.


Mon Nov 08, 2004 11:20 am
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bABA wrote:
Krem wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/11/08/dutch.bomb.ap/index.html

Well, there goes the myth of the "tolerant" Europe. I guess everyone cane be tolerant when 99% of the population is the same as you are, but the moment you get some ethnic tension, bombs start going off.

There's a piece of the article that's troubling to me, though: The Tarieq Ibnu Zyad Islamic school, said to have links with a mosque that has allegedly been a gathering place for radicals, also suffered a minor attack a year ago. Dekkers said police had visited Islamic schools in the city, but had not decided on additional security measures.

So the police knew the school was a gathering place for terrorists, but hadn't made up its mind on what to do about it?


Radical <> terrorists.

In this context, I'm pretty sure it does.

Though, they have to worry about home-grown terrorists who try to blow up mosques first and foremost.


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Mon Nov 08, 2004 11:46 am
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Post Re: More violence in the Netherlands
Krem wrote:
bABA wrote:
Krem wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/11/08/dutch.bomb.ap/index.html

Well, there goes the myth of the "tolerant" Europe. I guess everyone cane be tolerant when 99% of the population is the same as you are, but the moment you get some ethnic tension, bombs start going off.

There's a piece of the article that's troubling to me, though: The Tarieq Ibnu Zyad Islamic school, said to have links with a mosque that has allegedly been a gathering place for radicals, also suffered a minor attack a year ago. Dekkers said police had visited Islamic schools in the city, but had not decided on additional security measures.

So the police knew the school was a gathering place for terrorists, but hadn't made up its mind on what to do about it?

In this context, I'm pretty sure it does.

Though, they have to worry about home-grown terrorists who try to blow up mosques first and foremost.


Radical <> terrorists.


the bolded lines belong to krem


Mon Nov 08, 2004 1:23 pm
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Mon Nov 08, 2004 1:26 pm
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Post Re: More violence in the Netherlands
Archie Gates wrote:
Krem wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/11/08/dutch.bomb.ap/index.html

Well, there goes the myth of the "tolerant" Europe. I guess everyone cane be tolerant when 99% of the population is the same as you are, but the moment you get some ethnic tension, bombs start going off.

There's a piece of the article that's troubling to me, though: The Tarieq Ibnu Zyad Islamic school, said to have links with a mosque that has allegedly been a gathering place for radicals, also suffered a minor attack a year ago. Dekkers said police had visited Islamic schools in the city, but had not decided on additional security measures.

So the police knew the school was a gathering place for terrorists, but hadn't made up its mind on what to do about it?

If they knew of a gathering place for terrorists, they might want to not shut it down, but instead electonically eavesdrop and/or use that knowledge to infiltrate. Maybe they were doing that, maybe not, but it's a valid possibility.


So you would want the government to use technology to spy on the citizens? Sounds like the patriot act in a weird way :?


Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:31 pm
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rusty wrote:
Archie Gates wrote:
Krem wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/11/08/dutch.bomb.ap/index.html

Well, there goes the myth of the "tolerant" Europe. I guess everyone cane be tolerant when 99% of the population is the same as you are, but the moment you get some ethnic tension, bombs start going off.

There's a piece of the article that's troubling to me, though: The Tarieq Ibnu Zyad Islamic school, said to have links with a mosque that has allegedly been a gathering place for radicals, also suffered a minor attack a year ago. Dekkers said police had visited Islamic schools in the city, but had not decided on additional security measures.

So the police knew the school was a gathering place for terrorists, but hadn't made up its mind on what to do about it?

If they knew of a gathering place for terrorists, they might want to not shut it down, but instead electonically eavesdrop and/or use that knowledge to infiltrate. Maybe they were doing that, maybe not, but it's a valid possibility.


So you would want the government to use technology to spy on the citizens? Sounds like the patriot act in a weird way :?

You ever hear of undercover agents?


Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:32 pm
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Post Re: More violence in the Netherlands
rusty wrote:
Archie Gates wrote:
Krem wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/11/08/dutch.bomb.ap/index.html

Well, there goes the myth of the "tolerant" Europe. I guess everyone cane be tolerant when 99% of the population is the same as you are, but the moment you get some ethnic tension, bombs start going off.

There's a piece of the article that's troubling to me, though: The Tarieq Ibnu Zyad Islamic school, said to have links with a mosque that has allegedly been a gathering place for radicals, also suffered a minor attack a year ago. Dekkers said police had visited Islamic schools in the city, but had not decided on additional security measures.

So the police knew the school was a gathering place for terrorists, but hadn't made up its mind on what to do about it?

If they knew of a gathering place for terrorists, they might want to not shut it down, but instead electonically eavesdrop and/or use that knowledge to infiltrate. Maybe they were doing that, maybe not, but it's a valid possibility.


So you would want the government to use technology to spy on the citizens? Sounds like the patriot act in a weird way :?


Touche.


Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:33 pm
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