More updates from the suddenly important Ohio.



Now why this is more of a threat to G.O.P. when Ohio has traditionally voted Republican is beyond me, but I do agree with the efforts of making voter stations as nuetral as possible. This article is interesting to me because I would think it would be more of a set back to the Democrats, who are still trying to build their case there, than the Republicans that already have a firmly established base and probably don't need exert persuasion at the last possible minute. That's just my thoughts though.

Watch Ohio closely. That and, IMO Wisconsin.

-Dolce

The weather's gonna be bad in all of Ohio tomorrow - rains and thunderstorms. That benefits Republicans, IMO.

No joke. Its true that bad weather affects elections. (I'm not going to venture to say in which direction) but my sister ran into trouble with thunderstorms in St. Louis two years ago and called me up to complain about it. I said, Oh c'mon, no one who wants to vote is going to let weather get in their way (Unless its maybe tornadoes or hurricans or earthquakes or something). She said I would be surprised. I guess I would be, but apparently its a known fact.

-Dolce

Not if it hails. Republicans won't want to get their BMWs scratched. :wink:

Getting out the base.

I.ve been trying to do my part to get the vote out, So here's another reminder. Vote-Vote-Vote!!! Rain or Shine, you still have to go to school or work! Don't look for an excuse, just let your voice be heard!!

Im voting tomorrow also in the P.R elections.

VOTA POR ANIBAL!

"Likely voters in Florida give Kerry the lead, 49 percent to Bush’s 44 percent"

It must be true if Fox News says it. :wink:

Ohio seems important,Every candidate who has won ohio has won the elections.Unfortunaly bush is leading there in polls.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/specia ... owdown/OH/

I wish Phil Hartman were still around. His frankenstein "Fire bad!" impression would be perfect for a Kerry presidency. Every president deserves to be skewered some.

No, it's "every Republican candidate who won, also carried Ohio".

And the fact that Bush is leading in polls there is not "unfortunate" (unless you're one of them flip-floppers) ;-)

Fortunately Bush is winning in Ohio.

Look at all the polling data, Ohio is very close: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/special/president/showdown/OH/polls.html

LONDON (Reuters) - Oil prices fell sharply on Monday on speculation that a U.S. election win for Senator John Kerry could ease the geopolitical friction that has helped fuel this year's record-breaking rally.

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Mwahaha. That's the dumbest headline EVAH! It's as if the law of supply and demand totally escapes Reuters

Don't blame reuters, they are just reporting. Blame some energy analysts.

"Energy analysts said a win for the challenger Kerry in Tuesday's U.S. presidential election could mean lower crude prices than if President Bush (news - web sites) were reelected. Latest opinion polls can barely separate the two.


"Under a Kerry administration we'd likely have a much more interventionist SPR policy," said Jamal Qureshi, market analyst at PFC Energy in Washington. "And when you look out a bit further, Bush is more likely to be aggressive in the Middle East, particularly in Iran." "

Okay, I'm going to be the one to toss this out there because I'm in a particularly dark mood. But regardless who wins, there's going to be such a slew of problems that nothing is going to fix quickly. Anyone think that if Kerry wins, which I doubt, everyone is going to expect the quick fix by the end of 2005, and will the dissappoinment when that doesn't happen lead to more voter dissillusionment in the next election? Are we going to try to kick him out of office like Gray Davis or something? I dunno, there are presidencies that one can assume that are bad, and then there are ones that are BAD. Who knows. When Clinton took over Bush Sr. the Gulf War was in fact, pretty much over, we had alot of allies, the economy wasn't this crappy, and the population wasn't nearly so polarized. Meh, who knows. There isn't anything in the ways of instant gratification here and since expectations are so high that there should be, I don't know how to anticipate the fall-out and frustration.

-Dolce

I honestly don't know of any one who expects instant gratification. Most people I talk to just want adults back in charge again, they want Baker/Holbrooke/Rubin types back, they just want to be able to trust that professionals are on the job so they can stop worrying all the time.

If Kerry wins, I expect him to govern much like a democrat version of GHWBush, moderate bipartisan internationalist, not all that liberal.

He might face the same fate as elder Bush after 4 years, possibly, but maybe the republicans can then put up a sensible candidate, someone like a McCain/Powell type. If so it wouldn't be the end of the world if Kerry was a one termer. It's been said that a party is successful if it helps reform the other party by keeping it out of office. The Reagan/Bush years were what made moderate Clinton possible, the democrats learned a lot from their defeats.

If Kerry winning makes the republicans go more moderate then mission accomplished, even if they win in 4 or 8 years again.

I'll agree with you about Kerry promising too much too quick. Kerry promises to do what Bush has done/hasn't done and to do that you gotta be a hell of a president and Kerry won't be anythign like that. We all know that. The reason why I want Bush is because he makes realistic goals and the only travesty was the Iraq war which doesnt affect me anyway so I dont' care. I just dont want to get dissapointed in 2 years.

Oh yeah

If Kerry Wins, expect Americans to go alot more conservative

If Bush Wins, expect Americans to go alot more Liberal.

I could've sworn you were a Kerry supporter.

Anyway, the rally this morning was awesome. It took 2 hours to get from one point to another that was only 1 mile away. There were sooo many people, but it was worth it.

Aren't you a Kerry foo?

Wait wait wait.

Okay, so you say that since the war doesn't "affect you," you, in turn, don't care. I disagree with that, but I understand what you're saying.

But what issues are there that do affect you that you're passionate enough to want Bush to win? Realistic goals? You mean... the economy? Health care?

Yeah, I'm sure those directly affect you, too...

(edit: sorry, not meaning to attack, just the heat of the election is getting to me )

Nope. Look at my signature (*Cough*whichyoustole*Cough*) :wink:

That's just a tiny bit ignorant. A tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiny bit.

I have a feeling Kerry will take Ohio.

Or Ohio will be this year's Florida.