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cujoy Speed Racer Joined: Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:16 pm Posts: 164	FILMO wrote: Erendis wrote: George Lucas wrote: So right now I'm thinking it probably won't make any money and will be considered a failure." Ep 1 made $430M, and in some circles it's STILL considered a failure. :fishing: I wouldnt mind to have a 430 Mio Dollar failure in my life :???: And if it happens:Wayne and so long to the art direction. It's "failure" was that it didn't unseat Titanic. EVERYBODY thought PM would unseat Titanic. (Creative failure aside. ) I've been thinking about the box office of the last two SW movies and come to some conclusions. 1. PM made a lot of money just on the hype, (which, to this day, remains the loudest of any hype campaign ever hyped.) There was a genuine, pent up, 16 year demand to see that movie. It was a demand so great, that this film made 350 million before some people could deal with the fact that it was DRECK ( :razz: ) (Hell, I'm one of them. It took me a second viewing just to deal with how much I hated it. It took my brother a 3rd!) To this day, I believe that if PM hadn't sucked, it would have beat Titanic. Yes, I do believe that. 2. AOTC suffered a considerable drop off from PM. I think three factors caused that. a. The fact that PM sucked put a small squeeze on the fanbase. :razz: b. AOTC also sucked. c. Spiderman. SITH has no Spiderman. Other then Madagascar, there's nothing there. If it doesn't suck, (hold your breath, because it is possible that it won't,) it has no barrier (other then PM/AOTC backlash) to some amazing numbers. If it doesn't suck, it should certainly be able to beat Shrek II. I think SITH's basement (meaning if it's more of the same PM/AOTC drivel,) is $320 million. (And no, the PG-13 won't hurt SITH. It probably helps. All three LOTR films were PG-13. Passion was an R.) _________________ My Favorite Movies 2005: Crash, Sky High, Narnia Beating a Drum for: DaVinci Code, Cars, Pirates of the Carribbean II
Tue May 03, 2005 1:45 pm

Jeff 42 The Dark Knight Joined: Sat Jan 15, 2005 2:44 pm Posts: 763	cujoy wrote: I've been thinking about the box office of the last two SW movies and come to some conclusions. 1. PM made a lot of money just on the hype, (which, to this day, remains the loudest of any hype campaign ever hyped.) There was a genuine, pent up, 16 year demand to see that movie. It was a demand so great, that this film made 350 million before some people could deal with the fact that it was DRECK ( :razz: ) (Hell, I'm one of them. It took me a second viewing just to deal with how much I hated it. It took my brother a 3rd!) To this day, I believe that if PM hadn't sucked, it would have beat Titanic. Yes, I do believe that. TPM had amazing legs for a blockbuster. I won't deny that a lot of people found it disappointing, but stop perpetuating the misguided view that everyone hated it. Quote: 2. AOTC suffered a considerable drop off from PM. I think three factors caused that. a. The fact that PM sucked put a small squeeze on the fanbase. :razz: b. AOTC also sucked. c. Spiderman. AotC suffered a nearly identical drop percentage-wise as ESB did from ANH. Clearly ESB and ANH must have sucked too. There are two major factors you don't really consider here, although the first is somewhat related to Spider-Man. TPM was one of the biggest event movies of all time. It was a movie that people just had to see. This also became true for ANH. In both cases due to the sheer magnitude of what the first movie did it was impossible for the sequel to have quite the same "must-see" cultural phenomenon status. Admittedly, ANH was an even bigger phenomen than TPM, making it harder for ESB to match up to its predecessor than for AotC. So TPM not being as well received and the Spider-Man effect (as S-M becamse the must-see event of that summer) also contributed to the dropoff. Finally, AotC was a much less kid-friendly movie than TPM, cutting down on repeat viewings from that demographic. This was also true of ESB compared to ANH, although the contrast in kid-friendliness was less dramatic there. Quote: SITH has no Spiderman. Other then Madagascar, there's nothing there. If it doesn't suck, (hold your breath, because it is possible that it won't,) it has no barrier (other then PM/AOTC backlash) to some amazing numbers. If it doesn't suck, it should certainly be able to beat Shrek II. I think SITH's basement (meaning if it's more of the same PM/AOTC drivel,) is $320 million. (And no, the PG-13 won't hurt SITH. It probably helps. All three LOTR films were PG-13. Passion was an R.) I do agree with you that lack of competition helps RotS. But I think saying "if it doesn't suck, it should certainly be able to beat Shrek II" is ridiculous. Of course, based on your attitude you very well might think it does suck even if 95% of viewers like it. I don't know why I still bother debating how well-received the prequels have been, but the common perception that everyone hates them is utter hogwash, despite what Internet bashers and the media would have you believe.
Tue May 03, 2005 4:11 pm

cujoy Speed Racer Joined: Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:16 pm Posts: 164	Jeff 42 wrote: I do agree with you that lack of competition helps RotS. But I think saying "if it doesn't suck, it should certainly be able to beat Shrek II" is ridiculous. Of course, based on your attitude you very well might think it does suck even if 95% of viewers like it. I don't know why I still bother debating how well-received the prequels have been, but the common perception that everyone hates them is utter hogwash, despite what Internet bashers and the media would have you believe. And here I thought I'd made a really POSITIVE SITH post, praising it's box office potential and my belief that it might not suck up the place. ](*,) 1. First, about my "attitude". I am at this moment more positive and open to ROTS then I have ever been. Honestly, I do think there is hope that I might like it. You are taking my "attitude" way too seriously, as I peppered my post with smilies and razzes because I am well aware my feelings about these films are a MINORITY in this forum. (Which does not make me shy about expressing mine.) 2. PM made a lot of it's money on the Star Wars name alone. I stand by that belief. It isn't universally hated, but it isn't universally loved either. 3. There is no comparison whatsoever between ANH and PM as a cultural phenomena. ANH snuck up and tapped us on the shoulder. PM came marching in with it's own brass band. 4. Perhaps your argument about ESB's take vs. ANH is valid. But those films were released in a different box office era then we are living in now. (And they DEFINETLY do not suck!) But in the current era, we had Shrek II, a sequel, making nearly twice what the original made. We have Spiderman II making almost what the original made, even though for both the original Shrek and Spiderman made a lot of money. And we have the three LOTR's each making more then the one before it. I don't think that AOTC's huge drop off from PM was a given. Which brings me back to Shrek II. If that film, which was funny, cute, enjoyable, but not really a cultural event, can make $400+ million, there is no reason why a STAR WARS movie shouldn't. So let's all join hands and sing kumbayah. \:D/ _________________ My Favorite Movies 2005: Crash, Sky High, Narnia Beating a Drum for: DaVinci Code, Cars, Pirates of the Carribbean II
Tue May 03, 2005 6:19 pm

xiayun Extraordinary Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:41 pm Posts: 25109 Location: San Mateo, CA	Should get my TIME for this week in the mail soon. Star Wars is on the cover. _________________ Recent watched movies: American Hustle - B+ Inside Llewyn Davis - B Before Midnight - A 12 Years a Slave - A- The Hunger Games: Catching Fire - A- My thoughts on box office
Tue May 03, 2005 6:37 pm

Maverikk Award Winning Bastard Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:03 am Posts: 15310 Location: Slumming at KJ	Hmmm... Erendis and cujoy have entered this thread. I know when I'm beat, so I'll just quietly exit stage left and watch in silence. :shv:
Tue May 03, 2005 6:43 pm

Box Extraordinary Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:52 am Posts: 25990	Ok, either: 1) $310m or 2) $450m I really don't ...know! But, if May continues to suck, SW3 will take in all the money. _________________ In order of preference: Christian, Argos MadGez wrote: Briefs. Am used to them and boxers can get me in trouble it seems. Too much room and maybe the silkiness have created more than one awkward situation. My Box-Office Blog: http://boxofficetracker.blogspot.com/
Sat May 07, 2005 3:09 pm

Rev Romosexual! Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32596 Location: the last free city	this weekend suked, next weekend will be no different and then BOOM! ROTS comes to save the season. $100m 3 day $350m total don't fell me Anakin _________________ Is it 2028 yet?
Sat May 07, 2005 3:15 pm

Anonymous	Code: all $ are in millions. Op- Opening Memorial 3day 3day 3day Dom- Over WW en- Weekend Weekend 2nd OW % OW es- seas Ttl ing (thu-sun) (fri-mon) wknd of Mult tic Ttl Day 3day 4day 3day 4day drop Ttl iply Ttl ====================================================================== Algren ? 65 ? ? ? ? 22% 4.6 301 ? ? MG Casey 41 84 125 55 ? 35% 35% 2.8 239 386 625 Korrgan ? 105 ? ? ? ? 31% 3.2 338 ? ? Nebs 40 106 146 70 88 34% 26% 3.9 467 444 911 matatonio 38 90 128 49 ? 46% 28% 3.5 318 360 678 Snickety Snack 2 ? 87 ? ? ? ? 29% 3.4 297 ? ? Dr. Lecter 37 94 131 ? ? ? 28% 3.5 331 ? ? Amer ? ? 138 ? ? ? ? ? 406 ? ? BJ 48 97 145 53 70 45% 28% 3.6 346 424 770 ShadyMilkman ? 102 ? ? ? ? 25% 4.0 405 ? ? neo wolf ? 90 ? ? ? ? 27% 3.7 330 ? ? RogueCommander 37 82 119 ? ? ? 28% 3.5 290 ? ? Daniel Raedts ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 525 ? ? ChipMunky ? 115 ? ? ? ? 21% 4.7 537 ? ? DP07 34 84 118 37 ? 56% 32% 3.1 260 310 570 Maverikk ? ? 125 ? ? ? ? ? 350 ? ? hans 40 99 139 58 72 41% 26% 3.8 375 417 792 jb007 ? 96 ? ? ? ? 21% 4.8 462 ? ? Riggs27 ? 94 ? ? ? ? 29% 3.5 327 ? ? Samweis Gamdschie ? 93 ? ? ? ? 32% 3.1 291 ? ? Nazgul9 40 95 135 47 ? 51% 27% 3.7 350 400 750 MikeQ. ? 95 ? ? ? ? 32% 3.2 300 ? ? FILMO 36 90 126 ? ? ? 27% 3.7 332 444 776 want2write 35 95 130 ? ? ? 29% 3.5 330 ? ? insomniacdude 35 95 130 ? ? ? 24% 4.1 390 ? ? Ragnarok 38 87 125 ? ? ? 31% 3.2 282 ? ? El_masked_este.. ? 95 ? ? ? ? 33% 3.0 288 ? ? Squee ? 87 ? ? ? ? 27% 3.8 327 ? ? Impact 47 112 159 68 90 39% 29% 3.5 390 510 900 revolutions 40 100 140 ? ? ? 29% 3.5 350 470 820 moviedude ? 95 ? ? ? ? 38% 2.6 250 ? ? scottb 41 105 146 63 75 40% 26% 3.9 407 483 890 Zingaling 40 93 133 ? ? ? 29% 3.5 321 ? ? Futureboy ? 103 ? ? ? ? 30% 3.4 345 465 810 Killuminati510 ? ? 120 ? ? ? ? ? 355 ? ? BKB The Man 35 85 120 ? ? ? 25% 4.0 340 ? ? Jon Lyrik ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 290 ? ? rusty 33 105 138 ? ? ? 26% 3.9 410 ? ? nghtvsn 33 95 128 ? ? ? 30% 3.4 321 ? ? Terminator1997 36 101 137 ? ? ? 23% 4.3 434 510 944 addrOck ? ? 125 ? ? ? ? ? 400 ? ? Legend of Jam 35 105 140 ? ? ? 29% 3.5 363 ? ? Positive Jon 37 97 134 ? ? ? 27% 3.7 363 387 750 Amos 38 83 121 45 ? 46% 26% 3.9 324 365 691 Steve 38 97 135 ? ? ? 31% 3.2 315 ? ? Erendis 38 86 124 ? 75 ? 26% 3.8 325 350 675 baumer72 33 99 132 ? ? ? 27% 3.6 360 515 875 JMorphin 40 100 140 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? StarWarsEpisode7 80 170 250 ? ? ? 16% 6.4 1093 ? ? TonyMontana ? 78 ? ? ? ? 31% 3.3 255 ? ? The Dark Shape 37 93 130 72 ? 23% 27% 3.8 350 380 730 Archie Gates 40 115 155 ? ? ? 33% 3.0 350 ? ? loyalfromlondon 47 123 170 ? ? ? 26% 3.8 470 ? ? Mesjarch 35 93 128 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ===================================================================== average 39 97 137 56 78 -41% 28% 3.7 365 423 775 high 80 170 250 70 90 -56% 38% 6.4 1093 510 944 low 33 65 118 37 70 -23% 16% 2.6 239 310 570 ===================================================================== TPM actual 29 65 106^ 51 67 -22% 15% 6.6 431 493 924 AOTC actual 30 80 110 48 60 -40% 26% 3.9 311 339 650 ^ 106 is a 5-day total as TPM opened on wednesday. AOTC opened on thursday and ROTS will also open on thursday. opening weekend 3-day is fri-sun and 4-day is thu-sun. memorial day weekend 3-day is fri-sun and 4-day is fri-mon. Click here for boxoffice stats for Episode I Click here for boxoffice stats for Episode II Click here for Episode I vs. Episode II weekend showdown Click here for Episode I vs. Episode II daily showdown
Sat May 07, 2005 3:33 pm

BJ Killing With Kindness Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:57 pm Posts: 25035 Location: Anchorage,Alaska	box_2005 wrote: Ok, either: 1) $310m or 2) $450m I really don't ...know! But, if May continues to suck, SW3 will take in all the money. BJ starts chanting choose 450m Box, choose 450m Box, choose 450m Box, choose 450m Box chant done :mrgreen: _________________ The Force Awakens
Sat May 07, 2005 10:34 pm

Mesjarch Cream of the Crop Joined: Tue May 03, 2005 5:41 am Posts: 2388 Location: Poland	Can I add my prediction?
Sun May 08, 2005 10:24 am

Anonymous	Sure. You can add, or change them as many times as you like before May 19th. :-)
Sun May 08, 2005 10:45 am

zingy College Boy Z Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:40 pm Posts: 36662	I'll just update and predict everything... Opening Day: $38.5 million Opening Weekend (3-Day): $94.5 million Opening Weekend (4-Day): $133.0 million Memorial Day Weekend (3-Day): $52.0 million Memorial Day Weekend (4-Day): $64.9 million Domestic Total: $322 million Overseas Total: $400 million Worldwide Total: $722 million
Sun May 08, 2005 10:52 am

RB652 Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:23 pm Posts: 403 Location: New York City	Opening Weekend (4-Day): $95.0 million Domestic Total: $308 million
Sun May 08, 2005 12:11 pm

1981 The Producer Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:06 am Posts: 484	Wow! I made next to StarWarsEpisode7 and ChipMunky the highest prediction. However, I don't expect it to make that number, but I'll stick with it. (I predicted the same for AotC)
Sun May 08, 2005 12:31 pm

Chippy KJ's Leading Pundit Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!	Opening Day: $40 million Opening Weekend (3-Day): $115 million Opening Weekend (4-Day): $155 million Memorial Day Weekend (3-Day): $71 million Memorial Day Weekend (4-Day): $90 million Domestic Total: $537 million Overseas Total: $463 million Worldwide Total: $1 billion Ahh... I love my wishful thinking _________________ trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct Rev wrote: Fuck Trump
Sun May 08, 2005 12:53 pm

El Maskado Arrrrrrrrrrgggghhhhhhhhhh! Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:17 pm Posts: 21572	Opening day: 42 million I think it can beat Spiderman 2's opening day
Sun May 08, 2005 1:45 pm

BJ Killing With Kindness Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:57 pm Posts: 25035 Location: Anchorage,Alaska	El_Masked_esteROIDe_user wrote: Opening day: 42 million I think it can beat Spiderman 2's opening day whats your new domestic top out :?: _________________ The Force Awakens
Sun May 08, 2005 1:48 pm

El Maskado Arrrrrrrrrrgggghhhhhhhhhh! Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:17 pm Posts: 21572	BJ wrote: El_Masked_esteROIDe_user wrote: Opening day: 42 million I think it can beat Spiderman 2's opening day whats your new domestic top out :?: 290 million. Heck HP3 had the fourth highest opening day an it still made under 250 million. I could see the same thing happening with SW EP3.
Sun May 08, 2005 1:51 pm

BJ Killing With Kindness Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:57 pm Posts: 25035 Location: Anchorage,Alaska	RB652 wrote: Opening Weekend (4-Day): $95.0 million Domestic Total: $308 million bleh , a 4-day opening of 95m, even AOTC made more, why are you prediction such a crazy low 4-day opening :???: :?: _________________ The Force Awakens
Sun May 08, 2005 1:51 pm

BJ Killing With Kindness Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:57 pm Posts: 25035 Location: Anchorage,Alaska	El_Masked_esteROIDe_user wrote: BJ wrote: El_Masked_esteROIDe_user wrote: Opening day: 42 million I think it can beat Spiderman 2's opening day whats your new domestic top out :?: 290 million. Heck HP3 had the fourth highest opening day an it still made under 250 million. I could see the same thing happening with SW EP3. that still crushes your old prediction :wink: _________________ The Force Awakens
Sun May 08, 2005 1:52 pm

Rev Romosexual! Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32596 Location: the last free city	Screw it my last chance to join the darkside. final prediction Opening Day: $50m Opening Weekend (3-Day): $116m Opening Weekend (4-Day): $166m Memorial Day Weekend (3-Day): $70m Memorial Day Weekend (4-Day): $90m Domestic Total: $400m Overseas Total: $600m Worldwide Total: $1b _________________ Is it 2028 yet?
Sun May 08, 2005 2:00 pm

BJ Killing With Kindness Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:57 pm Posts: 25035 Location: Anchorage,Alaska	revolutions wrote: Screw it my last chance to join the darkside. final prediction Opening Day: $50m Opening Weekend (3-Day): $116m Opening Weekend (4-Day): $166m Memorial Day Weekend (3-Day): $70m Memorial Day Weekend (4-Day): $90m Domestic Total: $400m Overseas Total: $600m Worldwide Total: $1b 50m opening day :-s I think the highest it can score is 48m and even that is streching the limit. _________________ The Force Awakens
Sun May 08, 2005 2:09 pm

nghtvsn Extraordinary Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:13 pm Posts: 11016 Location: Warren Theatre Oklahoma	Here's my updated predicts as well.... Opening Day: same Opening Weekend (3-Day): same Opening Weekend (4-Day): same Memorial Day Weekend (3-Day): $61.75 Memorial Day Weekend (4-Day): $83.2 Domestic Total: $359 million Overseas Total: $475 million Worldwide Total: $834 million thx for your work in putting together that stat list btw _________________ 2009 World of KJ Fantasy Football World Champion Team MVP : Peyton Manning : Record 11-5 : Points 2669.00 [b]FREE KORRGAN 45TH PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A. DONALD J. TRUMP #MAGA #KAG! 10,000 post achieved on - Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:49 pm
Sun May 08, 2005 3:16 pm

Rev Romosexual! Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32596 Location: the last free city	BJ wrote: revolutions wrote: Screw it my last chance to join the darkside. final prediction Opening Day: $50m Opening Weekend (3-Day): $116m Opening Weekend (4-Day): $166m Memorial Day Weekend (3-Day): $70m Memorial Day Weekend (4-Day): $90m Domestic Total: $400m Overseas Total: $600m Worldwide Total: $1b 50m opening day :-s I think the highest it can score is 48m and even that is streching the limit. for a jedi maybe not for a SITH! _________________ Is it 2028 yet?
Sun May 08, 2005 3:18 pm

baumer72 Mod Team Leader Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:00 pm Posts: 7087 Location: Crystal Lake	I think the recent box office sets up Sith nicely to explode on teh scene. There last fefw weeks have given us nothing to rush out to see. This makes Sith the first must see movie of the summer. I am taking the morning of teh 19th off of work so I can go on the 18th at midnight. This is going to be the event of the early summer and it's opening weekend will be enormous. _________________ Brick Tamland: Yeah, there were horses, and a man on fire, and I killed a guy with a trident. Ron Burgundy: Brick, I've been meaning to talk to you about that. You should find yourself a safehouse or a relative close by. Lay low for a while, because you're probably wanted for murder.
Sun May 08, 2005 3:26 pm
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