A thread for DP07’s species
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DP07
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DP07 wrote: Excel wrote: Jack Sparrow wrote: Indeed that was me. You have a dedicated thread for this. Also warning on threatening posts (even though we know it's fun) going forward might be deleted or edited.
P.S. what does End mean in your species? As I have heard multiple times now! jack where you been? In context of the Oppenheimer thread, I will warn you not to post in this thread, or you will be considered a security threat to my species. I think this warning should be obvious, but you have already obviously failed to take me seriously. If you want to appeal the designation as a security threat, you are required to follow the terms of my prior post, and furthermore to explain why you should not be considered a security threat, or to represent a security threat. Just a note, I don’t consider this stuff be be significant or sensitive enough to be “classified”, or some equivalent of such.
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DP07
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War could more accurately be defined by ethnicity than culture. That is to say war can be related to species and species identity; not in the sense that different groups of Homo Sapien are different species (yet, at least), but in the sense that ethnicity, and relationships based on ethnicity, can have genetic relevance to species, potential species, and future species. This is also an influence on other human identities that are more strongly associated, at present, and historically, with ethnicity and genetics than culture. Even if human genetic differences are not yet significant enough for species divergence to be recognized by your present day science, they are significant enough to have profound effects on human behavior. That is why they can be powerful, and that is why they can play such a significant role in human psychology and culture as well.
War is religious to the extent that religion more directly reflects human attitudes and perspectives towards the reality of species divergence and identity. Still, religion has never been the primary cause of most wars. Sometimes it is one factor among many, but if so, there would have been war regardless in many, if not most cases.
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Sat Jul 13, 2024 9:00 pm |
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DP07
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 Re: 2024 election - First presidential debate
DP07 wrote: zwackerm wrote: Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Surprised with his inflammatory rhetoric and loose gun laws this hasn’t happened sooner. Guy’s winning the election now though. Just a horrible event that solves nothing and makes the situation worse. I fully expect an assassination attempt on Biden next as I expect Trump will push to divide us further after this asking for vengeance That would be. Terrible political move. He’s been acting more savvy than that lately It wasn’t a political move you idiot. Clausewitz was wrong; war is not politics by other means. It isn’t even primarily cultural; it’s economic, scientific, and civilization related more than anything. It’s for human self-interest, and mutual self-interest more than anything. Politics is for human self-interest and mutual self-interest, but the comparisons end there. Assassinations are not acts of politics, they are acts of war. Carl Von Clausewitz* author of “On War”.
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DP07
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DP07 wrote: War could more accurately be defined by ethnicity than culture. That is to say war can be related to species and species identity; not in the sense that different groups of Homo Sapien are different species (yet, at least), but in the sense that ethnicity, and relationships based on ethnicity, can have genetic relevance to species, potential species, and future species. This is also an influence on other human identities that are more strongly associated, at present, and historically, with ethnicity and genetics than culture. Even if human genetic differences are not yet significant enough for species divergence to be recognized by your present day science, they are significant enough to have profound effects on human behavior. That is why they can be powerful, and that is why they can play such a significant role in human psychology and culture as well.
War is religious to the extent that religion more directly reflects human attitudes and perspectives towards the reality of species divergence and identity. Still, religion has never been the primary cause of most wars. Sometimes it is one factor among many, but if so, there would have been war regardless in many, if not most cases. There is also an element of human consciousness, and as a consequence of human conscience. That is to say humans justify killing based on their conscience, as well as their conscious decisions. Consciousness of personality might relate to killings for personal reasons (or what you call crime), but cultural and emotional consciousness is involved not only in those sorts of killings, but more significantly war. The fact that war involves human consciousness, or conscious human decisions, does not mean that human consciousness is the cause of war. Consciousness can act in self-interest, but it can do so in all sorts of ways. I believe Homo-Sapien to be limited to five levels of consciousness, and other species to four or less. I’ve counted perhaps 30, or more for myself and my future species.
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DP07
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I’ll remove myself from this thread and call it a breaking news special event.
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Sat Jul 13, 2024 9:19 pm |
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DP07
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End: Security risk tolerance.
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DP07
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DP07 wrote: zwackerm wrote: Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Surprised with his inflammatory rhetoric and loose gun laws this hasn’t happened sooner. Guy’s winning the election now though. Just a horrible event that solves nothing and makes the situation worse. I fully expect an assassination attempt on Biden next as I expect Trump will push to divide us further after this asking for vengeance That would be. Terrible political move. He’s been acting more savvy than that lately It wasn’t a political move you idiot. Clausewitz was wrong; war is not politics by other means. It isn’t even primarily cultural; it’s economic, scientific, and civilization related more than anything. It’s for human self-interest, and mutual self-interest more than anything. Politics is for human self-interest and mutual self-interest, but the comparisons end there. Assassinations are not acts of politics, they are acts of war. I should say that war is primarily technological rather than scientific. It can be scientific, but largely, or mostly, as a product of technological progress, or vice versa. And, of course, both relate to economics, development, civilizations, biology, and genetics, and so are connected to war in many ways.
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DP07
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Joe Biden said “no place in America for this sort of violence”. His comments are prohibited, and carry far more severe consequences than genocide ever possibly could. Both he and Donald Trump are required to immediately disavow nuclear weapons, unconditionally surrender, and disarm and dismantle all nuclear weapons and programs. No strategic purpose, or purpose whatsoever, is permitted for nuclear weapons. All who tolerate or are complicit with them are required, at a minimum, to take exactly such a position on the issue. Failure to unconditionally, unequivocally, and completely disavow nuclear weapons will leave one with no protection whatsoever to any security threat or risk, and will not be tolerated or accepted whatsoever by any truly advanced civilization, consciousness, conscience, or species. An advanced intelligence may wish to tolerate or use nuclear weapons (this is supported by all available evidence involving Artificial Intelligence) directly, or indirectly for some strategic goal, purpose, or consideration. However, I consider all such relevant risks to be long term, and subject to rapid and preemptive termination if necessary.
Edit for note: I’ve said before that Nuclear Weapons must be disavowed unconditionally and irrespective of all other considerations. Disavowing violence is not an acceptable, sufficient, tolerable, or reasonable response. Responsibility for Nuclear Weapons exists regardless of human morality, human self-interest, human goals, human nature, human culture, human relationships, human emotion, human consciousness, or human conscience; limited as other species, or homo-sapien intelligence, consciousness, and conscience may be.
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DP07
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I’ll try to elaborate later in the Oppenheimer thread so as to completely and finally remove myself from this thread.
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DP07
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Obama’s comments are likewise not to be tolerated whatsoever. He must likewise disavow nuclear weapons under the same terms as Biden. Your complicit morality of your culture, civilization, and species will likewise be tolerated under no circumstances whatsoever. They are required to comply, or they will be systematically eliminated by whatever means necessary, including extinction and extermination.
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DP07
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Your morality cannot, and never will have any rational basis or legitimacy. It is definitively wrong under any and every realistic, rational, meaningful, and coherent definition. Failure to recognize as such, accordingly accept responsibility, and comply will only possibly be considered reckless and irresponsible negligence at best, and actively dangerous if my species is being generous. At worst it must be systematically eliminated by whatever means necessary, including extinction and extermination.
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DP07
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Your morality has no place whatsoever among my own new species.
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DP07
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Melania’s pathetically hypocritical simpleminded superficial shit is of course complicit and wrong. It should go without saying that it’s extremely immature by the standards of my own new species. It will not be tolerated or accepted whatsoever by my new species, and has no future whatsoever. You can try to go on about your nonsense, but your best hope remains wasting time.
Expecting others to agree with your irrational and irresponsible nonsense is abusive, especially and foolishly to truth and its love. It will only be punished in reality and time, and relentlessly punished if necessary.
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DP07
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End: tolerance and permission for survival for challenges, threats, and interference with my new species.
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DP07
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Excel wrote: Never thought I would hear "THE LATE GGREAT HANNIBAL LECTER" credited in presidential convention acceptance speech.
That was a complete, utter disaster, holy crap. You can’t say you were not warned. Your morality is completely irrational, worthless, shortsighted, selfish, nonsense, and there is no basis, right, or ability to disagree whatsoever besides more of the same. Trump doesn’t care because he doesn’t give a fuck anymore, and knows he has the Republican nomination anyway. He’ll be happy if he isn’t forced to eat you out of desperation. Sorry if you completely lack the maturity to accept this message, but you decided to post in the Oppenheimer thread.
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DP07
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Why did you move the post? It wasn’t referencing species. You’re making a mistake.
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DP07
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Excel wrote: Never thought I would hear "THE LATE GGREAT HANNIBAL LECTER" credited in presidential convention acceptance speech.
That was a complete, utter disaster, holy crap. To elaborate on my prior post in context of Oppenheimer and your morality, you have no right or ability to believe you deserve anything but extinction, or systematic extermination if you fail to disavow nuclear weapons. If you move this post, or attempt to respond to it inappropriately, it will only possibly contribute to, or exponentially accelerate extinction or extermination.
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DP07
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Excel wrote: Never thought I would hear "THE LATE GGREAT HANNIBAL LECTER" credited in presidential convention acceptance speech.
That was a complete, utter disaster, holy crap. You will comply. Shack and Jack Sparrow too because you desperately need to comply. If you try to resist your ability to do so will be eliminated and you will be forced to comply.
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DP07
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End.
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DP07
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You’re wasting your time if you fail to comply or delay. There is no question of whether you will be forced to comply the question is when. If you happen to more rapidly die before then, it is not my responsibility.
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DP07
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End.
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DP07
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Failure to comply is a death sentence. Complicity is a death sentence. Until compliance is forced or accepted on nuclear weapons and the Oppenheimer legacy. There is no question of whether, but when.
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DP07
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End: Hope. If failure to surrender: End in Death.
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DP07
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If your mistakes where not so obvious I wouldn’t say what I say. There is no possible way for you to say what you do if you were whatsoever qualified to have an adult conversation with me. I can’t describe how utter pathetic and ridiculous you obviously are.
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DP07
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I really mean this without prioritizing strategic calculations, which you would probably feel to be manipulative.
I beg you not to force me to hurt you if unnecessary. Because I will if need be. I will hurt you much worse than you believe possible.
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