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Post Re: Japan Box-Office: WKND Actuals (06/23-25); Charts Update
RRR as I heard in Japan is only subtitled in Japanese but soon it will get a Japanese dubbed version in theaters. It seems most Japanese like to see dubbed versions of Movies from abroad. What further impact will the dubbed version have on the box office of RRR?

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Corpse wrote:
Variety has an article up regarding Oppenheimer in Japan today. Just briefly going over how no release date has been set by Toho-Towa yet (not surprising, Hollywood films typically open late in Japan, and opening this one around the anniversary of the bombings probably isn't a good idea), and whether they'll be interest among moviegoers to watch it.

Maybe it's a coincidence... but I'm willing to bet someone there reads this thread/this forum. I've seen things said in articles at Variety (among other sites, like Crunchyroll) in the past that were taken almost directly from here before. There's nothing in the Variety article today that is close to copy/paste, but its timing is suspicious.

Wouldn't be too surprised, this thread is pretty well-known. Still would rather have trades make informed articles with the info on here but it'd be nice to give credit where it's due if they did take it from here.

Anyway, this period feels like the calm before the storm :funny: Hoping for a very exciting run for How do you Live and hopefully a bunch more hits. Elementals is completely exploding in south korea, would be nice if it was able to do the same in Japan.


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Universal is pressing hard for 15 August Release in Korea &China. Chinese Censor (CFA i.e. China Film Administration) has started the subjective debate and Universal had sent the copy for review. Debating from Insider is still in bottom-line (Less than 1% hope). Korean subject doesn't have much word to say but whether Oppenheimer release on China/Korea, winning box office for sure.

For Japan, Toho-Towa doesn't have screenings rights for the movie yet. Cinema Chain still worrying and neither Nolan nor anyone is positive about its outcome. Well, if moves are like in Korea/China then likely it's net negative.

Within Toho-Towa, Renfield &Strays is yet to get release date in Japan &This Variety article has added more subjective debate well majority calling it "poor choice of words" when compared to Wolverine. Nolan had a bigger platform and yeah I find it awkward why comparison was made with Wolverine.

Some Imperial mindset decline to watch but for now I don't think it's making any way into the market just a case of Minamata or Unbroken.

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I'd be very surprised if Oppenheimer either doesn't get released by Toho-Towa or if it's not picked up otherwise by an independent distributor much later down the road like Unbroken.

I highly doubt the film paints a black and white picture of events from America's perspective. And Japan hasn't been known to boycott or censor films. Almost everything gets released in Japan, even if it happens to be 6 months or a year later (Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey was just released for example).

I assume Toho-Towa is waiting to see the film, and since a July/August release won't work in Japan since that coincides with the anniversary date of the bombings, its release date consideration would naturally be pretty far out in the market.

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RRR as I heard in Japan is only subtitled in Japanese but soon it will get a Japanese dubbed version in theaters. It seems most Japanese like to see dubbed versions of Movies from abroad. What further impact will the dubbed version have on the box office of RRR?


Correct. Dubbed showings generally perform better than subbed showibgs.

RRR never grew past a certain number of moviegoers each week, which was a relatively small number. It just kept going ans going for 7/8 months now doing very similar numbers every week. It's like it was bringing out the same people again and again and again, otherwise it'd have grown at the weekly BO, I think. (It's finally dropped to very small numbers in recent weeks.)

So, I guess it's a question of if these people will come back once again for the subbed showings. Only time will tell.

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Indiana Jones disappointed today. It may not have even opened at #1, possibly behind the debut of the second part of Tokyo Revengers 2.

Indiana Jones probably has the edge in revenue (I assume more premiums + older skew), but it's probably quite close and likely came in second in admissions.

A broken record now, but add it to the list of Disney bombs/disappointments (2020-present). I know The Little Mermaid has been #1 for 3 weeks and is holding well, all good, but its total is still going to be well below blockbuster levels. And Indiana Jones is very unlikely to get near ¥5 billion off this Friday start.

We'll see what happens with Elemental in August, but I'd bet Disney goes yet another year, four consecutive, without one blockbuster in Japan.

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I have discussed this before, but Disney if they want to succeed in Japan again, should just give the distribution rights to their movies to Toho, and also keep their new theatrical releases off DisneyPlus for a while.

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Corpse wrote:
I highly doubt the film paints a black and white picture of events from America's perspective. And Japan hasn't been known to boycott or censor films. Almost everything gets released in Japan, even if it happens to be 6 months or a year later (Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey was just released for example).




Corpse wrote:
I'd be very surprised if Oppenheimer either doesn't get released by Toho-Towa or if it's not picked up otherwise by an independent distributor much later down the road like Unbroken.

I assume Toho-Towa is waiting to see the film, and since a July/August release won't work in Japan since that coincides with the anniversary date of the bombings, its release date consideration would naturally be pretty far out in the market.


For months, It was known that Oppenheimer won't make ahead of August in Japan but why they are pushing for V-J Day in China/Korea is giving me a bad feeling. Local Studio in China would protest not for our interest but they have Wu Jing Film "Meg 2" scheduled for 4 August, 2023. I wonder where these are heading.

But, I do believe Nolan is excellent in this subject and may be he may push for October but yeah for now, Toho-Towa doesn't have screenings rights of Oppenheimer.

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I am pretty worried about ER, we crossed ¥145 for $1.

2023 is expected to end with ¥160 for $1. BOJ Governor says he is examining the situation and BOJ cap ER at ¥150, meaning they will start using reserves ($1 Trillion+) after our ER crossed ¥150 for $1.

The thing is that although our BO is growing good in JPY. Gower Street still says that it's par with 2021 (for 2022 Fiscal Comparison). May be they will call it a decrease even if we increase this year too (Until May 31, 2023 Fiscal BO is running +30% ahead of 2022 BO Fiscal for same period)

Wondering if our ER will stable either or it's just a beginning of Argentina or Turkey story... I hope everything goes fine soon.

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There's not a lot the BOJ can do about the exchange rate. At least in trying to make it more favorable and not just attempting to cap/slow it down.

It's simply going to take the US dollar to depreciate in value. It's become so strong though, that even though it was suppose to back off a little this year, it really hasn't. And I think the FEDs are expected to raise interest rates AGAIN this summer. Some forecasts say the US dollar will weaken in 2024 now. We'll see.

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My bad.. Sorry but just complaining, Corpse, any hope for ¥102 Jan 2021 rates or of Demon Slayer rate at ¥105~¥106...? I was complaining about Jujutsu Kaisen (¥118 at that time) but now we are at different heights.

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Haha, you're good. I'm very annoyed at the exchange rate too. It's been really bad (15, 20, and back again to 30 year lows) for almost 1.5 years now. The USD totals are really suffering. Super Mario would be looking at a total of $125/130 million or so instead of either barely missing or crawling to $100 million. $100 million is great, of course, but losing out on $25/30 million (or more) because of the exchange rate sucks. Similar thing with every other film and their USD totls.

I can't imagine it going back below like ¥110 or better yet, closer to ¥100, anytime soon. Such a big change in a relatively short amount of time would take a sizable recession to occur in the US to weaken the dollar. Any recovery is probably going to be a very slow process that takes some years. Sigh.

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If anyone is looking at today's (Sat, July 1st) admissions, remember it's a discount day! I looked just now and was like WTF? at how well (almost) everything was doing. April was the last time a discount day fell on Saturday, and then back in October 2022 before that. Usually goes unnoticed if it falls on a regular weekday, but it's very noticeable on Sat/Sun.

This gives Indy some hope as long as it doesn't fall too hard on Sunday since Friday was likely deflated with moviegoers waiting for Saturday's cheaper tickets.

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Nolan's "Oppenheimer" got 15 August Release on Korea (They called it "Liberation Day") Box Office will be huge given with the date. :thumbsup:

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Corpse wrote:
If anyone is looking at today's (Sat, July 1st) admissions, remember it's a discount day! I looked just now and was like WTF? at how well (almost) everything was doing. April was the last time a discount day fell on Saturday, and then back in October 2022 before that. Usually goes unnoticed if it falls on a regular weekday, but it's very noticeable on Sat/Sun.

This gives Indy some hope as long as it doesn't fall too hard on Sunday since Friday was likely deflated with moviegoers waiting for Saturday's cheaper tickets.


Yeah, was pretty shock until I remember it's the 1st Day of the Month remembering last Time with Jujutsu Kaisen 2nd SAT (I guess) leading 3rd Weekend to increase over 2nd Weekend.

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I heard that Elemental will "stay in theaters" at least until Labor Day...

Don't know if that means the streaming release will also be in September.

Or if Disney will be sensitive to the Japanese market and delay the streaming release in the Japanese market even further than September...


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I heard that Elemental will "stay in theaters" at least until Labor Day...

Don't know if that means the streaming release will also be in September.

Or if Disney will be sensitive to the Japanese market and delay the streaming release in the Japanese market even further than September...


I don't think Disney made any release exclusive like "Coming to Disney+ except (dash)(dash) region" All titles arrived at the same time frame irrespective of Release date.

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Kanroji Mitsuri wrote:
cannastop wrote:
I heard that Elemental will "stay in theaters" at least until Labor Day...

Don't know if that means the streaming release will also be in September.

Or if Disney will be sensitive to the Japanese market and delay the streaming release in the Japanese market even further than September...


I don't think Disney made any release exclusive like "Coming to Disney+ except (dash)(dash) region" All titles arrived at the same time frame irrespective of Release date.


There are different release date for Disney+, but not big titles. One big example is the last anime of Bleach. In USA was in simulcast on Hulu, if I remember well in South America was available on January 2023 on Disney+, in Italy the first season will be available from the 5th of July...

Usually the difference on an international level are for localized content, in Italy the Asian content is always quite late, but there are some exception. But big titles, I'm thinking France where the window between theatrical and platform is quite large, studios prefer to skip theaters to go on streaming at the same time (Disney+ and Prime Video).


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If they want to succeed, they should have Disney+ streaming dates delayed much longer just for Japan. I mentioned before Japan already had home release dates many months behind other markets in the past, so this wouldn't be that different.


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harryj wrote:
Kanroji Mitsuri wrote:
cannastop wrote:
I heard that Elemental will "stay in theaters" at least until Labor Day...

Don't know if that means the streaming release will also be in September.

Or if Disney will be sensitive to the Japanese market and delay the streaming release in the Japanese market even further than September...


I don't think Disney made any release exclusive like "Coming to Disney+ except (dash)(dash) region" All titles arrived at the same time frame irrespective of Release date.


There are different release date for Disney+, but not big titles. One big example is the last anime of Bleach. In USA was in simulcast on Hulu, if I remember well in South America was available on January 2023 on Disney+, in Italy the first season will be available from the 5th of July...

Usually the difference on an international level are for localized content, in Italy the Asian content is always quite late, but there are some exception. But big titles, I'm thinking France where the window between theatrical and platform is quite large, studios prefer to skip theaters to go on streaming at the same time (Disney+ and Prime Video).


Yeah, I get that but what I meant I don't see Disney Exclusive content like MCU, Avatar or Animation Film like Soul, Turning Red, Encanto... coming on different dates. Local Industry like K-drama, Anime or anything non-English might have different dates but American Production doesn't have different dates, same for all region

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$4.7M Indiana

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So a month ago or so I read an article about how Ghibli wasn't going to show any trailers for Miyazakis new film. I thought "oh that's cool. He wants the audience to come into his movie with a blank slate." Yet just yesterday I read an article about how Miyazaki is actually upset that they aren't marketing his big return. What up with that?


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The First Slam Dunk is now ¥14.72B, I'm pretty sure it'll surpass Suzume. Only ¥70M difference now. But ¥15B milestone seems off the table.

Top Gun Maverick is still playing, this month Japan might be the only country in the world that have two Tom Cruise movies in the cinema.

The latest rumor about How do you live? is that the film's production just finished today.


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Flava'd vs The World wrote:
So a month ago or so I read an article about how Ghibli wasn't going to show any trailers for Miyazakis new film. I thought "oh that's cool. He wants the audience to come into his movie with a blank slate." Yet just yesterday I read an article about how Miyazaki is actually upset that they aren't marketing his big return. What up with that?


Ghibli's president and producer, Toshio Suzuki, is the one doing the no marketing strategy. Miyazaki has recently expressed concern over whether it's a good idea. They aren't fighting or anything, they get along well and if Miyazaki really wanted there to be marketing I'm sure they'd be marketing. He's said he trusts Suzuki, but there's still worry over the strategy.

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The second part of Tokyo Revengers 2 actually beat Indiana Jones this weekend. Very close, but probably considered an upset.

I'll share numbers in a few.

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