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Happy End and Hostiles both opened poorly considering their art-house pedigrees (Michael Haneke) and/or star power (Christian Bale). The downfall of trying to navigate Oscar season without being a top contender. The next casualties will be Molly's Game and Film Stars Don't Die in Liverpool.

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Rough year for Matt Damon: The Great Wall, Suburbicon, Downsizing, his father's passing, and becoming the Most Evil Man Alive for daring to say there is a difference between Harvey Weinstein's elaborate sexual-abuse system and Al Franken's indiscretions.

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The Disaster Artist went from seeming incredibly impressive to kind of disappointing. Just a total failure to play beyond The Room's cult audience and a modest sliver of the Pineapple Express crowd. Couldn't get any older, review-reading moviegoers to bite.

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Last Jedi falls victim to the Alt-Star Wars fans backlash and a weak box office and yeah, hard to sell its WOM at this point

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Yeah, pretty weak slate besides the top 2. Jumanji doing 60m+ for the 5-day is very impressive.


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Doesn't matter cuz TLJ is fucking amazing and still way better than TFA.


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Ferdinand and The Greatest Showman are doing the worst. Bad for my draft! I was hoping for 100m for Ferdinand and 80m for Showman!


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Putting out five new releases into 2,600+ theaters was just a dumb move on the studios' parts, especially when two of them (Father Figures, Downsizing) had such low ceilings for potential, and another was a sequel that could have been released any time of year. They've cleaned up most of the screens even though their potential over the next week is low, when stuff like Wonder and Lady Bird and heck even Justice League and Thor could have racked in more cash, especially for the theaters have had been carrying them for over a month now.

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It’s also just a bad box office season for award contenders. Lady Bird is the only one to me that is doing well for itself. Three Billboards and Dosaster Artist are both heading for a sub 35m run. Shape of Water could end up being leggy if it gets some big award wins to boost it.

Dunkirk and Get Out are significantly bigger movies than any of the other contenders and they both opened outside award season.


Three Billboards can still pass $35 million if it hits big at the Globes and gets a good nomination count (both very possible). Same for Shape of Water. I'm pretty sure The Post is the big mainstream awards play this year, though - I'm feeling better and better about a possible $150+ million total for that.


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Doesn't matter cuz TLJ is fucking amazing and still way better than TFA.


The movie? Sure. Its box office office performance? No.

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A Bad Moms Christmas was released way too early. Not even on the weekend estimates this time around.


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Oh wow Hostiles is a huge flop. 8k PTA from three theatres?!

Also it looks like Call Me By Your Name is failing to connect outside of coastal liberal cities and their gay enclaves.

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Last Jedi falls victim to the Alt-Star Wars fans backlash and a weak box office and yeah, hard to sell its WOM at this point


Honestly if they had just fixed the B plot and removed the ridiculous, nonsensical Laura Dern/Oscar Isaac antagonism I feel WOM wouldn't be as polarized and the "Alt-Star Wars" fanboys wouldn't be complaining as much. But from the moment Poe said "not what I expected" when it comes to her it immediately took me out of the movie. It made no sense, Leia is the head of the rebellion. There are tons of other female leaders. Why would he even say that? It reeked of propaganda. Maybe Kathleen Kennedy inserting her own personal politics and gripes into the story.

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Yeah this weekend is honestly kind of a bust outside of Jumanji. Hopefully, next week is better, but is it really going to make that much of a difference when we know Star Wars and Jumanji are going to be the only one's pulling in the most money. I'm sure the smaller releases like Darkest Hour and Shape Of Water will do decently, but they'll still be more legs based. Maybe All the Money in the World will surprise and do solid numbers too, but this is a pretty weak slate of Christmas releases overall. The Greatest Showman and especially Father Figures and Downsizing are just not connecting at all and the latter two are just complete wastes of space IMO. Ferdinand and Pitch Perfect 3 aren't doing anything special either. I think it would have made more sense if The Post came out wide from the start, but it will likely have a great run in January anyways.


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just realized that Jumanji is likely outgrossing Coco


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1 1 Star Wars: The Last Jedi BV $68,486,000 -68.9% 4,232 - $16,183 $365,088,356 - 2
2 N Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle Sony $34,000,000 - 3,765 - $9,031 $50,605,967 $90 1
3 N Pitch Perfect 3 Uni. $20,451,000 - 3,447 - $5,933 $20,451,000 $45 1
4 N The Greatest Showman Fox $8,600,000 - 3,006 - $2,861 $13,198,731 $84 1
5 2 Ferdinand Fox $7,050,000 -47.4% 3,630 +9 $1,942 $26,532,884 $111 2
6 3 Coco BV $5,208,000 -47.7% 2,111 -1,044 $2,467 $161,327,128 - 5
7 N Downsizing Par. $4,600,000 - 2,668 - $1,724 $4,600,000 $68 1
8 16 Darkest Hour Focus $4,105,000 +384.4% 806 +722 $5,093 $6,957,077 - 5
9 N Father Figures WB $3,200,000 - 2,902 - $1,103 $3,200,000 - 1
10 12 The Shape of Water FoxS $3,050,000 +78.3% 726 +568 $4,201 $7,615,665 - 4
11 4 Wonder LGF $2,000,000 -61.7% 1,130 -1,917 $1,770 $114,957,750 - 6
12 11 The Star Sony $1,375,000 -20.6% 1,106 -830 $1,243 $38,466,925 $20 6
13 5 Justice League WB $1,055,000 -75.5% 1,101 -1,601 $958 $222,678,455 - 6
14 10 Lady Bird A24 $1,005,627 -52.1% 402 -545 $2,502 $28,306,445 - 8
15 8 The Disaster Artist A24 $907,247 -66.6% 517 -493 $1,755 $15,717,648 - 4
16 6 Daddy's Home 2 Par. $900,000 -76.4% 1,073 -1,420 $839 $99,175,556 $69 7
17 17 Call Me by Your Name SPC $850,736 +74.9% 114 +84 $7,463 $3,138,537 - 5
18 7 Thor: Ragnarok BV $814,000 -74.0% 701 -1,194 $1,161 $309,104,758 $180 8
19 9 Murder on the Orient Express (2017) Fox $500,000 -80.2% 447 -1,476 $1,119 $99,221,983 $55 7
21 13 Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri FoxS $495,000 -68.8% 307 -637 $1,612 $22,710,619 - 7
20 N The Post Fox $495,000 - 9 - $55,000 $495,000 $50 1
22 21 I, Tonya Neon $445,694 +160.2% 37 +32 $12,046 $1,098,844 - 3
23 20 The Man Who Invented Christmas BST $125,785 -54.6% 146 -173 $862 $5,397,937 - 5
24 28 The Florida Project A24 $39,104 -29.6% 43 -23 $909 $5,205,190 - 12
25 N Hostiles ENTMP $26,000 - 3 - $8,667 $26,000 - 1
26 N Happy End SPC $23,800 - 33 - $721 $23,800 - 1
27 42 Marshall ORF $11,419 -32.5% 58 -13 $197 $9,448,966 $12 11
28 47 Faces Places Cohen $2,155 -81.4% 6 -3 $359 $582,273 - 12
29 29 My Friend Dahmer FR $1,100 -97.4% 3 -37 $367 $1,289,452 - 8


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RO did $64m 3-day and $96m 4-day. TLJ running really close to this mark. My sub-$650m projection is looking good.

Brilliant for Jumanji. Yikes for PP3. Whatever happened to Ferdinand and Greatest Showman.


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They need to eliminate the B plot, give Snoke some back story, and have a better version of Luke who doesn't kill himself. The faithful hate this movie and box office is showing it.

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Darth Indiana Bond wrote:
Last Jedi falls victim to the Alt-Star Wars fans backlash and a weak box office and yeah, hard to sell its WOM at this point


Honestly if they had just fixed the B plot and removed the ridiculous, nonsensical Laura Dern/Oscar Isaac antagonism I feel WOM wouldn't be as polarized and the "Alt-Star Wars" fanboys wouldn't be complaining as much. But from the moment Poe said "not what I expected" when it comes to her it immediately took me out of the movie. It made no sense, Leia is the head of the rebellion. There are tons of other female leaders. Why would he even say that? It reeked of propaganda. Maybe Kathleen Kennedy inserting her own personal politics and gripes into the story.

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Father Figures should've released on December 8 and Downsizing should've gone limited just like Matt Damon's 2012 flop, Promised Land.

Also, Pitch Perfect 3 would've done much higher business with a better and less dark storyline like Fat Amy and Bumper getting married (their chemistry from the first two movies were my favorite storyline!!). Adam Devine and Ben Platt (two of the best characters and great scene stealers) being absent from the movie were one of the reasons why it underperformed.

As for The Post, it did pretty well in limited release. WOM will be key to its success but if MOTOE can make it to $100M, I'm sure TP can make it too.


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They need to eliminate the B plot, give Snoke some back story, and have a better version of Luke who doesn't kill himself. The faithful hate this movie and box office is showing it.

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Darth Indiana Bond wrote:
Last Jedi falls victim to the Alt-Star Wars fans backlash and a weak box office and yeah, hard to sell its WOM at this point


Honestly if they had just fixed the B plot and removed the ridiculous, nonsensical Laura Dern/Oscar Isaac antagonism I feel WOM wouldn't be as polarized and the "Alt-Star Wars" fanboys wouldn't be complaining as much. But from the moment Poe said "not what I expected" when it comes to her it immediately took me out of the movie. It made no sense, Leia is the head of the rebellion. There are tons of other female leaders. Why would he even say that? It reeked of propaganda. Maybe Kathleen Kennedy inserting her own personal politics and gripes into the story.



Some of the faithful hate the movie. It seems to be neatly divided between hardcore fan factions who love or hate the movie (with a few sprinkled in between).

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From $220m OW to $68.5m 2W. :rofl:


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Given that it's holiday season makes it look worse Yes there was Christmas Eve but even with a regular holiday boosted day TLJ wouldn't have avoided a 60% drop


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Father Figures should've released on December 8 and Downsizing should've gone limited just like Matt Damon's 2012 flop, Promised Land.

Also, Pitch Perfect 3 would've done much higher business with a better and less dark storyline like Fat Amy and Bumper getting married (their chemistry from the first two movies were my favorite storyline!!). Adam Devine and Ben Platt (two of the best characters and great scene stealers) being absent from the movie were one of the reasons why it underperformed.

As for The Post, it did pretty well in limited release. WOM will be key to its success but if MOTOE can make it to $100M, I'm sure TP can make it too.

I doubt opening Father Figures on Dec. 8 would have made any difference. It's a dump, plain and simple. If they really wanted it to succeed they would have released it during a much less crowded time frame like January.
Jumanji is the only new release that is making noise, clear 2nd choice for moviegoers after Last Jedi, i expect to pass 200m+.
Pitch Perfect 3 probably should have opened during the spring/summer. It seems out of place.
The Greatest Showman has no awards buzz, and its hard for musicals to break out without it.
Downsizing has a similar problem, and it cost too much. These type of adult fare just doesn't make that much anymore and it has to have great reviews in order to stand out from the pack.


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Magnus wrote:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/

#StarWarsTheLastJedi  $68.5M/$365.1M,

#Jumanji  $34M/$50.6M,

#PitchPerfect3 $20.5M,

#GreatestShowman  $8.6M/$13.2M,

#Ferdinand $7.1M/$26.5M,


It's still performing almost identically like "Eragon", only multiplied by 10. The daily increaes/decreases are a bit different, though.

Friday:
Eragon - $2,734,769
TLJ - $24,680,000

Saturday:
Eragon - $2,957,473
TLJ - $29,178,000

Sunday:
Eragon - $1,314,225
TLJ - $14,628,000

10 days total:
Eragon - $37,502,169
TLJ - $365,088,356

$700M is still in play, as of now...


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Star Wars: The Last Dragon

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Star Lord wrote:
Magnus wrote:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/

#StarWarsTheLastJedi  $68.5M/$365.1M,

#Jumanji  $34M/$50.6M,

#PitchPerfect3 $20.5M,

#GreatestShowman  $8.6M/$13.2M,

#Ferdinand $7.1M/$26.5M,


It's still performing almost identically like "Eragon", only multiplied by 10. The daily increaes/decreases are a bit different, though.

Friday:
Eragon - $2,734,769
TLJ - $24,680,000

Saturday:
Eragon - $2,957,473
TLJ - $29,178,000

Sunday:
Eragon - $1,314,225
TLJ - $14,628,000

10 days total:
Eragon - $37,502,169
TLJ - $365,088,356

$700M is still in play, as of now...


Again the difference will be 4th weekend a few hundreds means a lot when talking 10 times the difference


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