Fabulously throwaway and silly. Felt like the thing was 50% ad libbed but they kept hitting the marks. Oddly though funniest moment is how quickly the warriors 3 are dispatched. Its like the screenwriters realised they needed to put them in the movie at the last moment due to some contract obligation and just went, fuck it 10 seconds is enough!

Gulli! Fantastic review

Some colcannon muncher who only shows up every 5 years.

Like a cicada?

Reminds me when Palpatine just whips Kit Fisto and the other dude in like 3 swings. That was a joke.

Thor: Ragnarok is a terrific action comedy. Loki and Korg get the best lines, but the rapid fire jokes keep this moving at such a brisk pace that it'd be impossible not to enjoy. It does further the Asgardian family saga quite well, not only here but for the whole MCU. At last we know why Odin over reacted so hard in the first movie, cause all of this has happened before and he couldn't deal with repeating the cycle. But cycles do repeat, and no amount of dirt will bury the truth forever. A very fitting way for the all-father. Loki is more of a comedic character than a tragic one here, but his journey is deep nonetheless. He achieves all his goals as a villian, is bored by the result, and has to reboot himself as a hero. Now we all know he took the tesseract at the end, but even sticking around to face the unknown future is a major step for him, and he has all of infinity to figure out the rest. This kind of stuff is why I love the first Thor and continue to defend the second. Add in the extra redemption angles involving Hulk and Valkyrie and one can see why this is so highly regarded.

My biggest problem was that, for the first time in the MCU, I felt the comedy was just too much sometimes. Even Guardians relaxes every now and then to let a heavy moment sink in. Thor is never capable of doing that unfortunately. They couldn't even wait 5 seconds after the total destruction of Asgard to have Korg starting making jokes again. I love Korg, but cmon man shut the fuck up, I know you have the power Mr. Director. So despite everything else being so great, I think this keeps it out of Tier 1 Marvel.

Avengers
Guardians
Civil War
The Winter Solider

Thor
Iron Man
The Incredible Hulk
Doctor Strange
Captain America
Thor Ragnarok
Avengers Age of Ultron

Iron Man 3
Iron Man 2
Spider-Man
Thor 2
Ant-Man
Guardians 2

Again, I enjoy it went full in on being comedy. First time a Marvel film felt like a complete film

This film is the equivalent of the Spiderman 3 twist

But it works because it does it the in beginning:
Honestly if you look it is filmmakers saying:

Fuck Jane, Fuck the friends, fuck ASGARD, Fuck Loki being bad, Fuck the hammer, and lets see what's what. Has anyone ever seen Cate Blanchett in a tight suit with eyeliner, you've never been into Goth but that will make men question themselves.

But, there are strong emotional beats, as random as they are, and they also work.

This is a film that should not work, but works on so many levels

It does work some of the time, like Korg's "Sounds like you had a special bond with this hammer, and losing it is like losing a friend." Comedic and character building.

We also a roadmap for Infinity War. Thanos taking the tesseract from The Revengers gives a great opening action scene and a Very conveinant way for Thanos to fast travel around the different properties. Destroying the Nova Corp. brings in the Guardians after all.

I thought this was fucking awful. What is the point of the entire "other planet" stuff other than to meet up with Hulk and girl from Creed?

Their universe is beyond a joke to serious minded movie goers. Of course the films are enjoyable if one turns their brain off but to act like this movie is a bette film than something like MAN OF STEEL is hilarious.

No themes, no message, no dramatic tension, no character development or arc, everything just goes in circles, etc.

From an artistic integrity perspective, the Marvel films have been a joke for a long time. Frankly, the first wave of organ films and first Avengers were for the most part awesome. Everything since then has been all down hill.

And now, with Justice League, DC is joining them.

Ragnarok is a film with actual artistic auteur realization

Of course Marvel films have artistic integrity. It's just a different type to DC. They also have character development, themes etc. It is insane to say otherwise. They would not have got to 17+ films on quips and explosions alone. Excel has just been fooled by the Dark Knight trilogy into believing that darkness, a serious tone, doom and gloom = artistic integrity, and everything else is inferior. Ah, let him remain deluded.

Yes saying that Marvel movies are a joke is also far-fetched even if their themes aren't as great as DC. Plus BvS vs CA:CW and even though there were great ideas in the former the later was a great movie with a pretty intense story-line.

The middle phase was pretty weak though outside of Winter Soldier. Age of Ultron is worse than Justice League. I couldn't even tell you the plot to Ultron.

No it's not.

Age of Ultron is bad but its definitely not as bad as JL but everyone has their opinions and I am fine someone thinks that way as neither of them is great.

Come on guys, excel is just lashing out as usual when the box office doesn't go his way.

I do hope the real excel comes back one day though.

Age of Ultron is not even bad, it's just average and has definitely become below the norm for Marvel. Still it's better than more than half of all the DC films.

It just felt like a string of Joss Whedon scenes played for giggles with no focus and was designed to set up other movies with no story itself. At least Justice League had interesting main characters

Have you seen Justice League?