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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21456 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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 Is this racism?
I mean, obviously it has to do with race, but am I in the wrong?
I'm part of the Christian club at my school and I recently joined the worship team. At one of the rehearsals, people were talking about joining the Gospel choir. I figured, since gospel is a genre largely associated with African Americans, it couldn't hurt to ask about the ethnic makeup of the Gospel choir. Now several weeks later, I was brought aside by the leader of the Worship team and she just now told me this confused her. They now feel hesitant about letting me lead Worship. I assured them I meant no offense and was deeply sorry, and I'm still a part of the team, but is being the only white person in a club not a valid concern?
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Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:04 pm |
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68221 Location: Seattle, WA
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 Re: Is this racism?
I was on your side until you said "concern".
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Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:11 pm |
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Jiffy
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Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:27 pm Posts: 6152 Location: New York
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 Re: Is this racism?
zwackerm wrote: but is being the only white person in a club not a valid concern? Why would it be?
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Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:18 pm |
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MGKC
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:42 pm Posts: 11808 Location: Kansas City, Kansas
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 Re: Is this racism?
Algren wrote: I was on your side until you said "concern". Ha, I happened to read this comment before zwackerm's story. That anticipation for the turn in the story was great - would have never guessed it was going to be the last word
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Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:11 pm |
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FILMO
The Original
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:19 am Posts: 9808 Location: Suisse
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 Re: Is this racism?
Black Lives Matter.... so join the fucking gospel club zwackerm!
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Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:09 am |
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Malcolm
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"Worship Team" on a Christian Club for young people? Doesn't sound at all creepy and cult-like... Well, good luck and maybe *your* team garners the most worship points so you can win that trip to Bob Jones University 
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Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:41 am |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21456 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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 Re: Is this racism?
Well, maybe concern is the wrong word. It wouldn't necessarily upset me, it's just that we live in a world where it's totally okay for other races to make white jokes. I was in a group in school once with an Asian and two Indians and they insulted my intelligence, saying that white people are a young race and lack the wisdom of their cultures.
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Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:59 am |
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68221 Location: Seattle, WA
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 Re: Is this racism?
zwackerm wrote: Well, maybe concern is the wrong word. It wouldn't necessarily upset me, it's just that we live in a world where it's totally okay for other races to make white jokes. I was in a group in school once with an Asian and two Indians and they insulted my intelligence, saying that white people are a young race and lack the wisdom of their cultures. lol, for all their wisdom, they don't have much to show for it. 
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Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:07 am |
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Excel
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Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22182 Location: Places
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 Re: Is this racism?
Just STFU about race, Mmmk ?
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Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:14 am |
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Chippy
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: Is this racism?
Yes, you are a racist.
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Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:16 am |
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Jiffy
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Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:27 pm Posts: 6152 Location: New York
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 Re: Is this racism?
zwackerm wrote: Well, maybe concern is the wrong word. It wouldn't necessarily upset me, it's just that we live in a world where it's totally okay for other races to make white jokes. I was in a group in school once with an Asian and two Indians and they insulted my intelligence, saying that white people are a young race and lack the wisdom of their cultures. "Punching up" is the prerogative of minority groups.
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Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:31 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21456 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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 Re: Is this racism?
Oh well I got booted off the worship team at my Christian club. Oh well.
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Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:46 pm |
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the lesser evil
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Joined: Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:13 am Posts: 1476 Location: The Netherlands
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What happened? 
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Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:33 pm |
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68221 Location: Seattle, WA
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Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:51 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21456 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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 Re: Is this racism?
They said I was not far enough along in my walk with Christ or some shit.
At least it wasn't because they thought I was racist!
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Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:54 pm |
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68221 Location: Seattle, WA
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 Re: Is this racism?
Maybe if you were a little more racist they would have made you president of the club.
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Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:03 pm |
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GuybrushX McMurphy
Cream of the Crop
Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:28 pm Posts: 2799 Location: Germany
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 Re: Is this racism?
They kicked him because he is a white, womanspreading transgender.
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Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:44 pm |
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Jiffy
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zwackerm wrote: They said I was not far enough along in my walk with Christ or some shit. 
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Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:58 pm |
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Thegun
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21855 Location: Walking around somewhere
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 Re: Is this racism?
How long were you with them this year? And do you go to church and what not?
PS, the first thing may not be intended as racist, but it's a rhetorical question that doesn't need to be answered and only puts you in a bad light.
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Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:01 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21456 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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 Re: Is this racism?
Yeah I go to church every Sunday and some other days to.
I was on the team for a year.
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Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:41 am |
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Jiffy
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Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:27 pm Posts: 6152 Location: New York
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 Re: Is this racism?
I was on worship team for a couple years and hated it.
I dislike being around musicians in general.
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Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:05 am |
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the lesser evil
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Joined: Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:13 am Posts: 1476 Location: The Netherlands
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zwackerm wrote: They said I was not far enough along in my walk with Christ or some shit. ...what? Kicking someone out instead of helping them improve doesn't sound very Christian to me.
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Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:27 am |
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tree and a half
Cream of the Crop
Joined: Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:38 am Posts: 2084
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the lesser evil wrote: Kicking someone out instead of helping them improve doesn't sound very Christian to me. Is this your first encounter with Christians?
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Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:16 am |
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Jiffy
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Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:27 pm Posts: 6152 Location: New York
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tree and a half wrote: the lesser evil wrote: Kicking someone out instead of helping them improve doesn't sound very Christian to me. Is this your first encounter with Christians? Lol right. That's about as "Christian" (in actual practice rather than theory) as it gets.
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Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:50 am |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21456 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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 Re: Is this racism?
Well they said they were going to help me improve but I don't know what they meant.
I truly believe they meant well. They even prefaced the meeting with "we know this is going to hurt you, and it kills us to do this, but..."
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