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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: Happy Equal Pay Day!
Caius wrote: Chippy wrote: I think if you're an adult citizen, you should have an equal vote. Just like everyone else. Why shouldn't non-citizens get a vote? They live here and are impacted by laws. How anti-Democratic of you. Because they are not citizens. I think citizenship should be much easier to obtain for non-citizens living here for extended periods of time.
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:43 am |
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Chippy
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: Happy Equal Pay Day!
zwackerm wrote: Except climate change IS real. As is an EARNINGS gap which is not the same as a WAGE gap. A WAGE gap would be if a man and a woman worked the same job, same hours, same company, took the same amount of sick and vacation days, the woman didn't take a maternity leave and had been there the same amount of time and one was paid more. Again, this literally happens.
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:44 am |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21463 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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 Re: Happy Equal Pay Day!
Chippy wrote: zwackerm wrote: Except climate change IS real. As is an EARNINGS gap which is not the same as a WAGE gap. A WAGE gap would be if a man and a woman worked the same job, same hours, same company, took the same amount of sick and vacation days, the woman didn't take a maternity leave and had been there the same amount of time and one was paid more. Again, this literally happens. Yes. And it's against the law. Murder, rape, theft, etc. are against the law. They still happen. Laws can't completely eliminate a problem. And as I believe you said you have no answer as to how to make it better...
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Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:08 am |
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Caius
A very honest-hearted fellow
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:02 pm Posts: 4767
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 Re: Happy Equal Pay Day!
If Chippy makes more money than any women in his office in the same role, he should give them the amount that is in excess of their wages. It is only fair and I don't want to saddle him with the burden of perpetuating the patriarchy.
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Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:39 am |
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Chippy
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: Happy Equal Pay Day!
If I was making more money than a female coworker who is just as qualified as me and is doing just as good of a job, yes, I would be very annoyed and would talk to my boss about it.
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:02 pm |
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Caius
A very honest-hearted fellow
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 Re: Happy Equal Pay Day!
Chippy wrote: If I was making more money than a female coworker who is just as qualified as me and is doing just as good of a job, yes, I would be very annoyed and would talk to my boss about it. You just undermined your entire argument with the statement bolded. This is the exact point Zwack and I have been making in this thread and it explains aggregate wage differences between men and women and people in general.
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Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:23 pm |
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Chippy
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: Happy Equal Pay Day!
No, it doesn't.
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:48 pm |
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Caius
A very honest-hearted fellow
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:02 pm Posts: 4767
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 Re: Happy Equal Pay Day!
Chippy wrote: No, it doesn't. Ah ok.
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Fri Apr 07, 2017 1:10 pm |
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