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Libs
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48677 Location: Arlington, VA
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 Friday Numbers (December 23)
1 ROGUE ONE: A STAR WARS STORY 22.78 244.77 ( -68%) 2 SING 13.07 33.68 ( new; $3,250 PTA from 4,022 theaters) 3 PASSENGERS 4.50 11.83 ( new; $1,294 PTA from 3,478 theaters) 4 WHY HIM? 3.92 3.92 ( new; $1,342 PTA from 2,917 theaters) 5 ASSASSIN'S CREED 3.72 11.21 ( new; $1,251 PTA from 2,970 theaters) 6 MOANA 2.82 175.85 ( -7.8%) 7 OFFICE CHRISTMAS PARTY 1.63 38.67 ( -37.8%) 8 COLLATERAL BEAUTY 1.24 12.24 ( -48.2%) 9 FANTASTIC BEASTS AND WHERE TO FIND THEM 1.01 212.32 ( -24.8%) 10 LA LA LAND 0.98 8.86 ( -28.7%; $4,766 PTA from 205 theaters) 11 MANCHESTER BY THE SEA 0.96 17.67 ( -25.1%) 12 ARRIVAL 0.42 88.72 ( -49.3%) 13 JACKIE 0.39 2.70 ( +136.4%; $1,136 PTA from 339 theaters) 14 DOCTOR STRANGE 0.26 227.87 ( -56.8%) LION 90,000 0.94 ( +174.7%; $1,636 PTA from 55 theaters) SILENCE 64,000 64,000 ( new; $16,000 PTA from 4 theaters) PATRIOTS DAY 52,577 0.15 ( new; $7,511 PTA from 7 theaters) FENCES 26,000 0.22 ( -37%; $6,500 PTA from 4 theaters) http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/char ... -23&p=.htm
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Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:52 pm |
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_axiom
The Wall
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:50 am Posts: 16163 Location: Croatia
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 Re: Friday Numbers (December 23)
I think it was smart not expanding La La Land a lot. Its PTA isn't really that impressive for that low theater count. I don't think it will end up with lots of mass appeal, awards or no awards.
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Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:15 pm |
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Libs
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48677 Location: Arlington, VA
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 Re: Friday Numbers (December 23)
_axiom wrote: I think it was smart not expanding La La Land a lot. Its PTA isn't really that impressive for that low theater count. I don't think it will end up with lots of mass appeal, awards or no awards. Eh? This seems off base. That's a very good PTA for 200 theaters two days before Christmas, when people are still distracted by festivities. It's doing way better than anything else in limited release is right now. On another note, I'm already dreading the articles and online comments placing the blame for Passengers' mediocre performance entirely on JLaw's shoulders.
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Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:23 pm |
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bl1222
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Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:36 pm Posts: 3900
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 Re: Friday Numbers (December 23)
Libs wrote: _axiom wrote: I think it was smart not expanding La La Land a lot. Its PTA isn't really that impressive for that low theater count. I don't think it will end up with lots of mass appeal, awards or no awards. Eh? This seems off base. That's a very good PTA for 200 theaters two days before Christmas, when people are still distracted by festivities. It's doing way better than anything else in limited release is right now. On another note, I'm already dreading the articles and online comments placing the blame for Passengers' mediocre performance entirely on JLaw's shoulders. Agreed, Libs about what you said about La La Land. Wanna talk about "not impressive"? Moonlight and Jackie have disappointed. I could go on all day like Assassin's Creed and Passengers especially the latter.
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Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:39 pm |
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emste26
Speed Racer
Joined: Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:43 pm Posts: 167
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Libs wrote: _axiom wrote: On another note, I'm already dreading the articles and online comments placing the blame for Passengers' mediocre performance entirely on JLaw's shoulders. Yeah, I don't think you can really blame star power on this one. For one, when it comes to sci-fi movie, particularly original ones, reviews matter. I can't think of any that have made more than 100M with bad reviews. Secondly, J-Law's movies' box office returns are fairly closely correlated to reviews. X-men and Hunger Games movies declined when they received worse reviews. Joy also did much worse than her other "awards-bait" movies. All I'm saying is that perhaps her biggest fans are also more selective and pay attention to reviews. Lastly, it's a sci-fi movie opening 5 days after a FREAKING STAR WARS MOVIE. Of course hindsight is 20/20, but that probably wasn't the best idea. Having said that, neither have been truly tested on carrying their own major films, besides J-Law in Joy, though you could probably say would have done much worse without her in the lead. (You can't really count HG, the books themselves carried that series.) Pratt has only found success in a major reboot, a marvel movie and an animated flick. Honestly, Passengers probably would have done even worse without them, but we'll never know for sure. I just think that star power is something that can truly elevate a movie's performance under the right circumstances, but not something that can save a movie.
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Sat Dec 24, 2016 2:31 pm |
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_axiom
The Wall
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:50 am Posts: 16163 Location: Croatia
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emste26 wrote: Honestly, Passengers probably would have done even worse without them, but we'll never know for sure. I just think that star power is something that can truly elevate a movie's performance under the right circumstances, but not something that can save a movie. Not much worse and overall it might've been more profitable than it will be now. Remember those hefty paychecks both of them got for the movie.
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Sat Dec 24, 2016 3:11 pm |
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emste26
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I would say that's pretty great for Rogue One and it should reach around 67-69 for the 3-day. The interesting thing is, if you use Sherlock Holmes 2's multiplier going forward, Rogue One would finish with around 650M. So I would say it's got a reasonable shot at 600M.
Great for Sing as well. It's weekend multiplier is a little harder to predict as kids' movies have a pretty wide range. Tintin had a 2.76 IM and Chipmunks 3 had a 2.33 in 2011, while Narnia had a 2.49 and Cheaper by the Dozen 2 had a 2.38 in 2005. So, assuming it falls somewhere in the middle, we'll say it ends up with around 33M for the 3 day. Using multipliers from those same movies going forward, it could end up with anywhere from 250M to 300M.
As already stated, pretty disappointing for Passengers. Will end up with around a 13M 3-day and likely finish somewhere around 85-95M unless people are holding off until after Xmas. Definitely not a huge flop by any means, but certainly a disappointment.
I'd actually say that's pretty decent for Why Him? but it obviously pales in comparison to some other comedies released around Xmas like Daddy's Home or Little Fockers. The only comparison in 2005 or 2011 is 2005's The Ringer, which only achieved a 2.17 IM. An R-rated comedy probably suffers more from those late shows being canceled on Xmas Eve, but it should still do better than that. It will probably end up with around a 10M OW, and could finish with around 65M.
Assassin's Creed will probably fade pretty quickly from here on out. Could get around 9M for the weekend and finish with around 50M.
Sing has really put a damper on any hope of Moana having a big revival for the holidays and getting great "late legs". I see it reaching around 6.8M for the weekend and finishing with probably around 220-225M.
The top 12 looks to reach somewhere around 160M. Overall, it's a pretty disappointing weekend when looking at last Christmas, but it seems to be on par with the few before that. It's also miles better than the last time the holidays lined up like this in 2011, when the top 12 only earned 114M.
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Sat Dec 24, 2016 3:16 pm |
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zwackerm
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Fuck Sing. If only all that money went to Moana.
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Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:21 pm |
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Jiffy
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Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:27 pm Posts: 6152 Location: New York
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 Re: Friday Numbers (December 23)
Wonder if RO manages to avoid a 60% drop this weekend.
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Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:38 pm |
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Rolling Thunder
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With such stellar Christmas offerings, cutting my movie budget 50% in 2017 won't be so hard after all.
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Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:06 pm |
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Thegun
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21863 Location: Walking around somewhere
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Jiffy wrote: Wonder if RO manages to avoid a 60% drop this weekend. If it follows King Kong (Which I consider a worst case thanks to much stronger family appeal and more showtimes due to length) It'll make 63 million. About a 59% drop. I'm seeing a higher Saturday drop to 11 million, then a 140% increase on Sunday. But most view this as a 4 day weekend, so Monday should be it's biggest day (maybe 30-35 million) I think it has a solid shot at 100+ million 4day
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Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:25 pm |
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DP07
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15530 Location: Everywhere
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JLaw is done. No point in trying these days if you can't guarantee 100m.
I still want to see the movie.
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Sun Dec 25, 2016 2:04 am |
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publicenemy#1
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 19391 Location: San Diego
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 Re: Friday Numbers (December 23)
Think LLL is really gonna benefit from how meh the choices at the theater. Expecting a nice Christmas Day #.
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Sun Dec 25, 2016 5:50 am |
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Magic Mike
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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:53 am Posts: 35227 Location: Minnesota
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publicenemy#1 wrote: Think LLL is really gonna benefit from how meh the choices at the theater. Expecting a nice Christmas Day #. Ditto. 2-3 Million is likely today and Monday.
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Sun Dec 25, 2016 6:15 pm |
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Rev
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32596 Location: the last free city
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 Re: Friday Numbers (December 23)
Where's the Saturday numbers and the weekend estimates
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Sun Dec 25, 2016 9:54 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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That's what you have when Christmas Eve is on Saturday.
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Sun Dec 25, 2016 9:55 pm |
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Rev
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32596 Location: the last free city
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I hate this
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Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:22 pm |
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Magic Mike
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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:53 am Posts: 35227 Location: Minnesota
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I want Christmas estimates! 
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Mon Dec 26, 2016 3:28 am |
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SolC9
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As far as I can tell, my theater is not very representative of national average, but Why Him? did quite well yesterday, selling over half as many tickets as Sing did here. And Collateral Beauty did horrible yesterday. I thought it might pick up, but not here.
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Mon Dec 26, 2016 9:44 am |
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Keyser Söze
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RTH gave numbers for sat/sun.
Saturday - Why Him 1.8 Sing 8.2 Moan 1.8,Pass 3 Ass 2.2 La La La Land 1.1 R1 15.3 Sunday - R1 25, Sing 14.5, Pass 7.3, Fences 6, WH 5.2, Ass 5, LLL 3.7
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Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:16 am |
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SolC9
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Those are some very nice increases for Why Him? and Passengers, and not very good for Rogue One.
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Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:29 am |
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Rev
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Need estimates like I need coffee
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Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:36 am |
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