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zwackerm
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Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21450 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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 Tomi Lahren
Do you hate this girl? I don't. Is it just because she's a very vocal Republican and Trump supporter? Because I watch her bits and nothing she says seems wrong. It just seems like stuff people don't want to hear or admit, and they resort to name calling because they can't refute her. She may be young, but she has a degree in political science from the University of Nevada. And people say that since she is "white, attractive and privileged" she has no right to have opinions on political matters.
I also hate the "privilege" label in general. Which basically says if you are white, male or heterosexual, you don't deserve to have opinions because you can't understand the struggles minorities have gone through.
Last edited by zwackerm on Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:48 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40222
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 Re: Toni Lahren
She's pretty annoying. But it bothers me more that liberals are so ready to pounce on someone on the other side that when Trevor Noah gives substance-less answers back to her like like "Colorblind? Do you not see traffic lights?" they're like 
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Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:39 am |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21450 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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 Re: Tomi Lahren
I think she's a bit aggressive and full of herself and while her KKK comment was extreme and easily falsifiable, Noah's "certain people are not the same as a movement" rebuttal is hypocritical and probably the weakest of a huge amount of actually valid arguments he could have used. That's the same argument the Trump supporters make, but the hardcore Democrats insist that you support the racism if you voted Trump.
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Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:53 am |
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stuffp
Keeping it Light
Joined: Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:06 am Posts: 11551 Location: Bright Falls
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 Re: Toni Lahren
Shack wrote: "Colorblind? Do you not see traffic lights?" I thought that was a terrible joke. And Trevor is mostly good, but he doesn't always make the best out of the material. As for Tomi, I'm completely opposite to her beliefs, but she's free to have as many of them as she likes. And btw, would bang.
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Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:00 am |
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68208 Location: Seattle, WA
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 Re: Tomi Lahren
Why would she even go on such a pro-liberal, PC piece of shit show as Trevor Noah's? He wasn't interviewing her. He was flat-out arguing against her. A lot of what she said was correct, and the liberals know that, so the only response they have is to say "You're racist", and then make lots of jokes about her directed at her being racist. It is pathetic. They're cry-babies the lot of them.
I love Tomi Lahren. I think she is very brave and very knowledgeable.
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Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:31 am |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:43 pm Posts: 11578 Location: Wouldn't you like to know
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 Re: Tomi Lahren
She has strong immature opinions that are really lacking in critical thinking
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Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:55 am |
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68208 Location: Seattle, WA
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I disagree. They just don't align with your liberal agenda so you claim immaturity. Her opinions make complete sense but they're trashing ideas that you support, and you have nothing to argue against her with so you claim immaturity. You're like Trevor Noah in that regard. He basically just wanted to keep insisting that she's a racist by differently phrasing the same question throughout the entire interview in order to evoke a racist response, but she is too clever for his idiotic traps.
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Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:21 am |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:43 pm Posts: 11578 Location: Wouldn't you like to know
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Algren wrote: I disagree. They just don't align with your liberal agenda so you claim immaturity. Her opinions make complete sense but they're trashing ideas that you support, and you have nothing to argue against her with so you claim immaturity. You're like Trevor Noah in that regard. He basically just wanted to keep insisting that she's a racist by differently phrasing the same question throughout the entire interview in order to evoke a racist response, but she is too clever for his idiotic traps. Algren! I am disappointed in you. I have not even stated anything beyond finding her immature and lacking in critical thinking and you are already assuming my talking points. I also don't like Trevor Noah for similar reasons.
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Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:34 am |
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68208 Location: Seattle, WA
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I wasn't really aiming it at you. You just happened to be the one to post the comment. We cool. We cool.  But there is a lot of people that assume people are immature or just plain dumb if they come out with controversial comments. They generalize and pick fault on semantics, but the controversy maker has already considered these things and has disregarded them because of triviality, at least in Tomi's case, I believe.
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Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:45 am |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:43 pm Posts: 11578 Location: Wouldn't you like to know
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One of the only political pundits I like is a local guy here in Orlando known as Jim Phillips. He is liberal, but also supports gun rights, defended George Zimmerman and predicted Trump''s win back in the primaries.
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the lesser evil
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Joined: Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:13 am Posts: 1476 Location: The Netherlands
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 Re: Tomi Lahren
zwackerm wrote: nothing she says seems wrong. Algren wrote: Her opinions make complete sense So, do you both agree that Black Lives Matter is like the Klux Klux Klan? That fracking is a good thing, and that climate change isn't real? That fossil fuel usage is essential because lol are you going to use fairy dust instead? I mean, I'm not saying she's someone who never makes a good point, but she supports a ton of Republican/conservative ideas and has ideas of her own that are just plain idiotic. Maybe she's not racist, but making ignorant comments concerning racial matters doesn't really help her cause. I don't like what I've seen of her (including her Twitter, which is Tomi without any sort of media filtering her), but I guess that's just my "liberal agenda". zwackerm wrote: I also hate the "privilege" label in general. Which basically says if you are white, male or heterosexual, you don't deserve to have opinions because you can't understand the struggles minorities have gone through. Well, can you though? I'm not saying you shouldn't have opinions, but do you think they hold as much weight as those of people who have directly had to deal with whatever the opinion is on? A friend of mine had a good ol' rant about privilege and sexism, but when I asked him if he ever considered that being able to hold hands out in public with his loved one was something not everyone can do, he had nothing. Privilege, checked.
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Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:23 am |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21450 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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the lesser evil wrote: zwackerm wrote: nothing she says seems wrong. Algren wrote: Her opinions make complete sense So, do you both agree that Black Lives Matter is like the Klux Klux Klan? That fracking is a good thing, and that climate change isn't real? That fossil fuel usage is essential because lol are you going to use fairy dust instead? I mean, I'm not saying she's someone who never makes a good point, but she supports a ton of Republican/conservative ideas and has ideas of her own that are just plain idiotic. Maybe she's not racist, but making ignorant comments concerning racial matters doesn't really help her cause. I don't like what I've seen of her (including her Twitter, which is Tomi without any sort of media filtering her), but I guess that's just my "liberal agenda". zwackerm wrote: I also hate the "privilege" label in general. Which basically says if you are white, male or heterosexual, you don't deserve to have opinions because you can't understand the struggles minorities have gone through. Well, can you though? I'm not saying you shouldn't have opinions, but do you think they hold as much weight as those of people who have directly had to deal with whatever the opinion is on? A friend of mine had a good ol' rant about privilege and sexism, but when I asked him if he ever considered that being able to hold hands out in public with his loved one was something not everyone can do, he had nothing. Privilege, checked. I aid she was right most of the time. The KKK thing is obviously false.
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Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:32 am |
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the lesser evil
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Joined: Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:13 am Posts: 1476 Location: The Netherlands
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Just that one particular thing, huh.
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Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:42 am |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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zwackerm wrote: the lesser evil wrote: That fracking is a good thing, and that climate change isn't real?
I aid she was right most of the time. The KKK thing is obviously false. And the ones above are correct? Are you fucking stupid?
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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Also, I have never heard of her before this thread.
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Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:18 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21450 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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I didn't see the fracking or climate change videos. Obviously climate change is a thing. It's just how much time and energy we should devote to it that is the issue.
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Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:57 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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Magnus wrote: i'd fuck the shit out of her doe I don't know, I googled some images and she looks a bit fake. I'd give her 6/10
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Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:11 pm |
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FILMO
The Original
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:19 am Posts: 9808 Location: Suisse
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Without her looks she wouldnt have come so far at that age.
I am with Magnus here. Without her looks nobody would give a shit.
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Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:13 pm |
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FILMO
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:19 am Posts: 9808 Location: Suisse
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her voice and way to speak is super annoying though 
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Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:22 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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She's a mini-Ann Coulter with a bigger audience and a platform. I think she's a dangerous person to give a platform to because she spouts talking points and nonsense that she can't defend.
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Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:17 pm |
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Jiffy
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Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:27 pm Posts: 6152 Location: New York
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Algren wrote: I love Tomi Lahren. I think she is very brave and very knowledgeable. I wonder what her stance toward China is.
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Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:33 pm |
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68208 Location: Seattle, WA
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Jiffy wrote: Algren wrote: I love Tomi Lahren. I think she is very brave and very knowledgeable. I wonder what her stance toward China is. I bet it's awesome.
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Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:50 pm |
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68208 Location: Seattle, WA
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the lesser evil wrote: zwackerm wrote: nothing she says seems wrong. Algren wrote: Her opinions make complete sense So, do you both agree that Black Lives Matter is like the Klux Klux Klan? That fracking is a good thing, and that climate change isn't real? That fossil fuel usage is essential because lol are you going to use fairy dust instead? I mean, I'm not saying she's someone who never makes a good point, but she supports a ton of Republican/conservative ideas and has ideas of her own that are just plain idiotic. Maybe she's not racist, but making ignorant comments concerning racial matters doesn't really help her cause. I don't like what I've seen of her (including her Twitter, which is Tomi without any sort of media filtering her), but I guess that's just my "liberal agenda". I saw one video of her (her interview with Trevor Noah). I hadn't heard of her before this thread. A lot of what she said made sense. And regarding all of your points, she only touched on the #BlackLivesMatter thing during that interview, and she didn't say #BLM is a 100% black version of the KKK. She is just trying to highlight similarities to it, and she's correct, though obviously it's not to the same degree. But I didn't think that needed to be stated every time the topic is brought up - surely both sides know that it's not the same. But, of course, Trevor Noah, never a guy to miss an opportunity, tries to paint her as a stone cold racist at each turn.
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Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:56 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21450 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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I was lying. I love her. I think I've watched 30 of her final thoughts in the last 24 hours.
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Mon Dec 12, 2016 5:27 pm |
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Chippy
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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Of course you did.
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