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6. LITERALLY EVERYTHING Starwarsepisode7 says IS IRONIC.

i.e. making a thread about stupid reasons why people hate movies while he himself put that the reason he doesn't like A Clockwork Orange is because it's "just plain bad" :roll:

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I was not doing a full review of A Clockwork Orange. I was just giving a grade and a tiny comment.


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Guys, this could actually be an interesting topic if you guys, you know, actually came up with your own lists instead of directing your comments toward another member who never insulted any of you.

The stupidest reason I've seen for hating a movie, is because people try to fit in, instead of using their own minds.

Catwoman is hated by how many people who wouldn't bother to watch it if they were paid. Why, because it "hip" to hate on Catwoman. Pretty frickin' stupid, isn't it? Give the sheep something to bitch about, and they'll flock from all over the world to do it, even if they don't know why.


Couldn't agree more. For example, believe it or not, Gigli is not that bad. Is it great film making? Not by a longshot. Is it passable Saturday afternoon entertainment that's actually pretty funny? You bet.


I also agree (...if that makes me a sheep - all I have to say is baa) - there are many members here who are in full zombie mode - liking what they are told to like and dissing what they are told to diss. Personal opinion seems to be a little to radical for the proles. And the hate they cast against those who aren't afraid to hold an opinion is really something to see...


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having said that though, i must defend a few .. actually .. half the people here on one subject. There is also an increasing tendency here of dismissing people's dislikes by attaching this "sheep argument" everytime it seems remotely appropriate to do so .. which is just as annoying as being a sheep : )


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I for one know that I'm not a sheep, because I only watch movies with a less than 25% rating at RottenTomatoes...

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I remember the general response from some of my friends who saw Alexander. They hated it because it was too gay. That was it. They thought the acting was good, and the battle scenes were good, but they only reason they gave as to why they hated it was because it too gay.

I understand if people don't like it because of pacing problems or because it was boring, but because it was too gay?? Give me a break. Personally, I think that's a stupid reason to dislike a movie, but to each his own.

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I remember the general response from some of my friends who saw Alexander. They hated it because it was too gay. That was it. They thought the acting was good, and the battle scenes were good, but they only reason they gave as to why they hated it was because it too gay.

I understand if people don't like it because of pacing problems or because it was boring, but because it was too gay?? Give me a break. Personally, I think that's a stupid reason to dislike a movie, but to each his own.


The acting was good? Half the performances sucked (mainly Val Kilmer and Rosario Dawson).

The battle scenes were good? They were average at best. Definently not what I would expect from such a high budget movie.


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The acting was good? Half the performances sucked (mainly Val Kilmer and Rosario Dawson).


I disagree. Most critics agree Val Kilmer gave the best performence.


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The acting was good? Half the performances sucked (mainly Val Kilmer and Rosario Dawson).


I disagree. Most critics agree Val Kilmer gave the best performence.


Well, I disagree about that, especially after watching it a second time a few months ago (on bootleg, yuck). The only good performance I saw was from Anthony Hopkins, and *maybe* Colin Farrell. Angelina Jolie sucked, too.


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having said that though, i must defend a few .. actually .. half the people here on one subject. There is also an increasing tendency here of dismissing people's dislikes by attaching this "sheep argument" everytime it seems remotely appropriate to do so .. which is just as annoying as being a sheep : )


Please Baba, people bash Catwoman because it's cool to bash Catwoman, not because of the ridiculous Catwoman outfit, the director Pitof or the ridiculous trailers.

Heaven forbid people call Catwoman a piece of crap before they see it... It may very well be the next Citizen Kane!


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Zingaling wrote:
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I remember the general response from some of my friends who saw Alexander. They hated it because it was too gay. That was it. They thought the acting was good, and the battle scenes were good, but they only reason they gave as to why they hated it was because it too gay.

I understand if people don't like it because of pacing problems or because it was boring, but because it was too gay?? Give me a break. Personally, I think that's a stupid reason to dislike a movie, but to each his own.


The acting was good? Half the performances sucked (mainly Val Kilmer and Rosario Dawson).

The battle scenes were good? They were average at best. Definently not what I would expect from such a high budget movie.


That's not my point though. That's just what my friends were saying. Whether you think the acting is good or not is purely opinion. Basically, what I'm trying to say is that I don't think it's logical to hate a movie for the SOLE reason that it was "too gay".

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Here's "stupid" reasons why you suck as well as your username, StarWarsEpisode7:

1. Lack of depth in your posts
2. The name makes people think you anticipate for SW EP.7
3. You really make stereotypes of any statistics, like when you believe all (NOT "not everyone") people like Titanic's love story.
4. You think you have an above average intelligence.
5. WE DON'T CARE WHAT YOU SAY, ESPECIALLY SOMETHING AGAINST SPEILBERG AND IN SUPPORT FOR FIRST TWO EPISODES!!


6. LITERALLY EVERYTHING Starwarsepisode7 says IS IRONIC.

i.e. making a thread about stupid reasons why people hate movies while he himself put that the reason he doesn't like A Clockwork Orange is because it's "just plain bad" :roll:
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Schlomo wrote:
want2write wrote:
Here's "stupid" reasons why you suck as well as your username, StarWarsEpisode7:

1. Lack of depth in your posts
2. The name makes people think you anticipate for SW EP.7
3. You really make stereotypes of any statistics, like when you believe all (NOT "not everyone") people like Titanic's love story.
4. You think you have an above average intelligence.
5. WE DON'T CARE WHAT YOU SAY, ESPECIALLY SOMETHING AGAINST SPEILBERG AND IN SUPPORT FOR FIRST TWO EPISODES!!


6. LITERALLY EVERYTHING Starwarsepisode7 says IS IRONIC.

i.e. making a thread about stupid reasons why people hate movies while he himself put that the reason he doesn't like A Clockwork Orange is because it's "just plain bad" :roll:

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I like Schlomo but I was disappointed to see this poster image. I see this kind of related attack all the time on other crappier boards and I don't want it infecting KJ.


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I like Schlomo but I was disappointed to see this poster image. I see this kind of related attack all the time on other crappier boards and I don't want it infecting KJ.


Thank-you.

I agree.


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Archie Gates wrote:
Schlomo wrote:
want2write wrote:
Here's "stupid" reasons why you suck as well as your username, StarWarsEpisode7:

1. Lack of depth in your posts
2. The name makes people think you anticipate for SW EP.7
3. You really make stereotypes of any statistics, like when you believe all (NOT "not everyone") people like Titanic's love story.
4. You think you have an above average intelligence.
5. WE DON'T CARE WHAT YOU SAY, ESPECIALLY SOMETHING AGAINST SPEILBERG AND IN SUPPORT FOR FIRST TWO EPISODES!!


6. LITERALLY EVERYTHING Starwarsepisode7 says IS IRONIC.

i.e. making a thread about stupid reasons why people hate movies while he himself put that the reason he doesn't like A Clockwork Orange is because it's "just plain bad" :roll:

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I like Schlomo but I was disappointed to see this poster image. I see this kind of related attack all the time on other crappier boards and I don't want it infecting KJ.


Well then, take out the crappy users! :wink:

But I don't want to sound like an absolute b-word, so I will now refrain from saying anything else.


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Starwarsepisode7 sucks ass....People like you, disrespect and down the name of Lucas and Star Wars. Your are nothing more then a biased biased biased person who really needs to open his eyes and stop dreaming.....and I respect the people who are trying to defend him, but he wouldn't need anyone to defend him if he came down to earth, realized that Lucas isn't god, Star Wars isn't heaven, and every other movie is hell.

Thank You.


On with the thread:

Kill Bill VOL2: "It just doesn't pack the punch like Volume 1"
Are you effin kidding me? Not only does it pack the punch of volume 1, it gives a kick, a headbutt and an elbow while its at it. Sure it doesn't have a terrific first impression, but after watching it the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th....12th time(Im serious), somewhere along the 3rd time, you realize, the story blends substance WITH style, something so rare to be found in movies, this day and age. I may be biased a HUGE QT fan, but heck, even If I wasn't, this film would still prove to be one of the best.

National Treasure: "Why did this movie get so big?"
Maybe cause it's actually an enteraining movie? Sure, its not a perfect movie, but when it comes straight down to raw entertainment, National Treasure is just a joy. I mean, how many movies can say that they make history fun, let alone, AMERICAN history? None of that Greek God, Roman Warrior stuff. The movie has a blend of Pirates of the Carribean and Indiana Jones in it, and throw in some B-Class actors, and you got National Treasure. Im just trying to say that National Treasure isn't the crapfest people make it out to be.

Okay I have homework, I swear, Ill do it later.


I promised I'd be back...so here I am:

Spirited Away: "I just don't understand why so many praise this film. It's much too over-praised"
Are you kidding me? I have heard this comment so many times because people just don't understand the art of anime. Anime is not about living in truth, it is about living in fiction, and letting go of everything real, to explore the world of the artist's imagination. Hayao Miyazaki sets forth a world filled with nothing more then magic and romance. This is not to mention the tear-jerking end the movie had in store for us. It really is an amazing movie, drawn with vivid detail and everything else.


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Let me go into the future and post something i bet many people will post after seeing the chronicles of narnia.

I didnt like the obviouse christianity in the film.


Considering nobody said that about LOTR's Christian themes, I doubt that will be said about Narnia.

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having said that though, i must defend a few .. actually .. half the people here on one subject. There is also an increasing tendency here of dismissing people's dislikes by attaching this "sheep argument" everytime it seems remotely appropriate to do so .. which is just as annoying as being a sheep : )


Please Baba, people bash Catwoman because it's cool to bash Catwoman, not because of the ridiculous Catwoman outfit, the director Pitof or the ridiculous trailers.

Heaven forbid people call Catwoman a piece of crap before they see it... It may very well be the next Citizen Kane!


every single thing i've seen so far suggests that catwoman is prolly a disaster. Mind you, i haven't seen it so i've never really commented on the movie itself. But it looks like shit.


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Jon Lyrik wrote:
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Let me go into the future and post something i bet many people will post after seeing the chronicles of narnia.

I didnt like the obviouse christianity in the film.


Considering nobody said that about LOTR's Christian themes, I doubt that will be said about Narnia.


Considering what I read in the papers, LOTR is actually supposed to be much more upfront about its religious orientation too. I had been under the impression Narnia was a study in theology, but not quite as heavy an emphasis on doctrine. I think if it didn't bother people in LOTR, its certainly not going to bother anyone in Narnia.


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Guys, this could actually be an interesting topic if you guys, you know, actually came up with your own lists instead of directing your comments toward another member who never insulted any of you.

The stupidest reason I've seen for hating a movie, is because people try to fit in, instead of using their own minds.

Catwoman is hated by how many people who wouldn't bother to watch it if they were paid. Why, because it "hip" to hate on Catwoman. Pretty frickin' stupid, isn't it? Give the sheep something to bitch about, and they'll flock from all over the world to do it, even if they don't know why.


Couldn't agree more. For example, believe it or not, Gigli is not that bad. Is it great film making? Not by a longshot. Is it passable Saturday afternoon entertainment that's actually pretty funny? You bet.


I also agree (...if that makes me a sheep - all I have to say is baa) - there are many members here who are in full zombie mode - liking what they are told to like and dissing what they are told to diss. Personal opinion seems to be a little to radical for the proles. And the hate they cast against those who aren't afraid to hold an opinion is really something to see...



I have seen Catwoman and consider it a vile, pathetic excuse for a film that is the single greatest argument in support of capital punishment (with regards to decapitating the director) I have ever come across!


If there is one film that people don't need to watch before bashing, it is Catwoman. Having seen it, I can assure everyone that the film is worthy of every insult you hurl at it.

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Let me go into the future and post something i bet many people will post after seeing the chronicles of narnia.

I didnt like the obviouse christianity in the film.


Considering nobody said that about LOTR's Christian themes, I doubt that will be said about Narnia.


Considering what I read in the papers, LOTR is actually supposed to be much more upfront about its religious orientation too. I had been under the impression Narnia was a study in theology, but not quite as heavy an emphasis on doctrine. I think if it didn't bother people in LOTR, its certainly not going to bother anyone in Narnia.


Well I am not so sure that people thought that Tolkien was a hardcore Christian like Lewis. Everyone knows Lewis is a Christian and stuff like Narnia will have Christianity in it, but most people do not know about the bible/LOTR connection (is there any? I heard so). So it could be different.


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Well I am not so sure that people thought that Tolkien was a hardcore Christian like Lewis. Everyone knows Lewis is a Christian and stuff like Narnia will have Christianity in it, but most people do not know about the bible/LOTR connection (is there any? I heard so). So it could be different.


Eh, The Return of the King???? What does that phrase remind you of??

Tolkien is the one who encouraged Lewis to get back to Christianity, so I'm sure his faith aided him in his writing. The theme of self-sacrifice for a greater cause is a profoundly Christian one, almost inseperably from the religion in the last 2,000 years, really.

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Well I am not so sure that people thought that Tolkien was a hardcore Christian like Lewis. Everyone knows Lewis is a Christian and stuff like Narnia will have Christianity in it, but most people do not know about the bible/LOTR connection (is there any? I heard so). So it could be different.


Eh, The Return of the King???? What does that phrase remind you of??

Tolkien is the one who encouraged Lewis to get back to Christianity, so I'm sure his faith aided him in his writing. The theme of self-sacrifice for a greater cause is a profoundly Christian one, almost inseperably from the religion in the last 2,000 years, really.


Oh no, I know Tolkien is a Christian. But I bet more people know that Lewis is a Christian than Tolkien. Mere Christianity, Miracles, etc but does Tolkien have an extremely popular Christianity book? Hell, I bet 90% of casual movie goers did not even know about the "parallels" of Christianity and LOTR. I don't doubt Tolkien was inspired by the bible, I am just wondering where it is in the LOTR.

And Return of the King reminds me of a King returning.


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Well I am not so sure that people thought that Tolkien was a hardcore Christian like Lewis. Everyone knows Lewis is a Christian and stuff like Narnia will have Christianity in it, but most people do not know about the bible/LOTR connection (is there any? I heard so). So it could be different.


Eh, The Return of the King???? What does that phrase remind you of??

Tolkien is the one who encouraged Lewis to get back to Christianity, so I'm sure his faith aided him in his writing. The theme of self-sacrifice for a greater cause is a profoundly Christian one, almost inseperably from the religion in the last 2,000 years, really.


Yes, I'd heard quite the opposite. Not that one influenced the other mind you, since I just heard they were contemporaies and friends and that both were influenced by Christianity, but that Lewis was also greatly traumatized by WWI (or II, I can't remember which sadly, maybe someone else knows). And in fact, the setting for the four children visiting the professor is around that time isn't it?

I see very literal and direct NT structure to the LOTR, as Box pointed out. With the return of the king, and the sacrifice of the hobbitts (earlthy, innocent, etc). Narnia does have these children working towards the greater good, but not in the same self-sacrificial way. Most of the NT stuff I picked up on pretty much had to do with the resurrection of Aslan (note how it is the women, susan and lucy that stay behind and morn him) and his stone table with the commandments on them. I don't know, they both have their sources, but I think if no one was bothered by it in LOTR, no one will be bothered by it here.

Frankly, what irritated me most about LOTR was the complete lack of female strnegth (and worse yet, the save the women and children scenes in TTT) and that's clearly not the same in Narnia, where Lucy is probably the most important character.


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Frankly, what irritated me most about LOTR was the complete lack of female strnegth (and worse yet, the save the women and children scenes in TTT) and that's clearly not the same in Narnia, where Lucy is probably the most important character.



You know, retrospectively, that is what I find LOTR to sorely lack, a consistent female presence. The women are so rarely in the spotlight that when they are, it's a cause for celebration.

And I don't buy that 'being historically accurate'. What history? This is fantasy, how hard could it have been to move away from the Middle and Dark Ages enough to give women a greater say?


But meh, at least Eowyn kicks that witchiking's ass!

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And I don't buy that 'being historically accurate'. What history? This is fantasy, how hard could it have been to move away from the Middle and Dark Ages enough to give women a greater say?


But meh, at least Eowyn kicks that witchiking's ass!


That's the number 1 reason why i hate Tolkien. Now Robert Jordan, he's a way better fantasy writer. Even Terry Goodkind is better. They have way much more relatable characters IMO.


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