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Algren
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68365
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 Re: Avengers: Age of Ultron
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Shack
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One of the best Marvel films for me though that has a lot to do with liking very few of the others. Despite still having the mid-action jokes it took its characters seriously emotionally including the Banner and Widow romance, Stark and Cap's ideology about how far to go to protect Earth, Hawkeye going home, the dream sequences after Scarlett Witch gets in their heads. Spader as Ultron does great because he has human emotion showing he has the weaknesses of the species he's trying to destroy. It work when he suddenly gets angry/annoyed and when he shows the craziness behind his apocalyptic zealotry. Having some stakes in the climax saving the city and the civilians sort of works too. Some weaknesses - the action is good not great, Ultron getting eradicated that easy is stupid and Thor feels like a filler character.
Not one of my favorite blockbusters or anything but I'd take this every day of the week over Guardians of the Galaxy which is Marvel at its most frustratingly Marvel assembly line and shallow. Avengers 2 is a unique film compared of the rest of the Marvel films in its character moments and seriousness and things like the dream sequences and Ultron
1. Captain America: The First Avenger 2. Avengers: Age of Ultron 3. Thor 4. The Avengers 5. Thor 2 6. Iron Man 7. Iron Man 3 8. Guardians of the Galaxy 9. The Incredible Hulk 10. Iron Man 2 11. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
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Thegun
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I think one of the film's biggest weaknesses (Doesn't have many but I think this one is to some) Is that at it's core it's much less Marvel and more like a Bond film. Where as the first film you could say was in very much a sequel to Thor, Captain American, and even Iron Man 2. Here now knowing what we know with Civil War coming and two Thanos films this very much reminds me of Harry Potter and the Order of the Pheonix. An extremely entertaining and well put together entry, but its one film where their are no real stakes as we know whats coming. But I find it's strengths put it easily ahead of the first film.
1. Iron Man 2. Captain America: The Winter Soldier 3. Avengers: Age of Ultron 4. The Avengers 5. Iron Man 3 6. Thor 7. Guardians of the Galaxy 8. The Incredible Hulk 9. Thor 2 10. Iron Man 2 11. Captain America: The First Avenger
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Algren
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I look on Ultron more fondly than Avengers. I couldn't wait for Avengers to end. Didn't get he big deal with it.
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LC97
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I liked it, probably as much as the first. I thought it had a good mix of action, laughs and story.
To Excel, I didn't need the back stories of the Twins, as that really would have bogged down the story and action. Especially since we got back stories on Hawkeyes and the whole Ultron setup. It was enough that we saw there pretty amazing skills, a couple of times. The mind stuff was a trip, and the speed stuff wad cool, plus funny, when it involved Hawkeyes. Lastly, the main point of the Scarlet Witch, was to establish her and her amazing powers for the next movie. Where she will be needed.
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BK
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Thegun wrote: I think one of the film's biggest weaknesses (Doesn't have many but I think this one is to some) Is that at it's core it's much less Marvel and more like a Bond film. Where as the first film you could say was in very much a sequel to Thor, Captain American, and even Iron Man 2. Here now knowing what we know with Civil War coming and two Thanos films this very much reminds me of Harry Potter and the Order of the Pheonix. An extremely entertaining and well put together entry, but its one film where their are no real stakes as we know whats coming. But I find it's strengths put it easily ahead of the first film.
1. Iron Man 2. Captain America: The Winter Soldier 3. Avengers: Age of Ultron 4. The Avengers 5. Iron Man 3 6. Thor 7. Guardians of the Galaxy 8. The Incredible Hulk 9. Thor 2 10. Iron Man 2 11. Captain America: The First Avenger It's nothing like Harry Potter. Harry Potter establishes one main villain at the beginning with every book/movie dealing with characters who are minions or tests for Harry Potter himself. Thanos has he even been in a non credit scene for any movie? Thor maybe? It's not clear, and sorry to say, but not all of us are comic nerds who know about all of this stuff. Harry Potter's stake remains the same throughout, yes, some kind of world domination, but by one unseen force that everyone does know about. All these superhero movies, but especially MCU, is always about the world ending. It's fucking stupid because 1) you know they will lose 2) the heroes never die 3) so there are no stakes. Ant Man looks ridiculous already and I'm definitely skipping that one. Thank God there isn't another Iron Man movie coming out because that character is stale as hell. I wish there was an Incredible Hulk movie though about Bruce Banner. Possibly the only interesting character in the Avengers. I can see a lot of potential for a movie and story in that that would be unrelated to all this Bayhem. Seriously, people knocking Transformers, AOU is pretty much the equivalent.
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Excel
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Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22210 Location: Places
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preach it!
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Mon May 04, 2015 10:49 pm |
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Algren
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68365
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BK wrote: All these superhero movies, but especially MCU, is always about the world ending. It's fucking stupid because 1) you know they will lose 2) the heroes never die 3) so there are no stakes.
Ant Man looks ridiculous already and I'm definitely skipping that one. Thank God there isn't another Iron Man movie coming out because that character is stale as hell. I wish there was an Incredible Hulk movie though about Bruce Banner. Possibly the only interesting character in the Avengers. I can see a lot of potential for a movie and story in that that would be unrelated to all this Bayhem. Seriously, people knocking Transformers, AOU is pretty much the equivalent. Quoted for truth.
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jmovies
Let's Call It A Bromance
Joined: Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:22 pm Posts: 12333
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This wasn't very good. If there was more Ultron story and Scarlet Witch story, this could have been much more interesting but once again its more of the same Marvel sthtick that is getting really boring. Oh well.
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Tue May 05, 2015 2:59 pm |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:43 pm Posts: 11619 Location: Wouldn't you like to know
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Maybe it was you guys all lowering my expectations, but I liked this movie. Marvel still hasn't made a film at the same level as a Nolan Batman film though, but they're starting to get better.
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trixster
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Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:31 pm Posts: 19697 Location: ville-marie
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did they kill off quicksilver so as not to compete with the x-men version?
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Flava'd vs The World
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 25427 Location: Classified
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I doubt it. Quicksilver's death was a part of Olsen's journey. Marvel didn't back down from Batman, I doubt X-Men would scare them lol. A great scene that got buried in the climax was Hawkeye trying to psych up Olsen. "The city is flying, we're fighting an army of robots and I have a bow and arrow. None of this makes sense." 
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Wed May 06, 2015 3:41 pm |
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Algren
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68365
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Renner can't do comedy, though. They fell flat in my screening.
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Wed May 06, 2015 6:46 pm |
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Brian
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Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:21 pm Posts: 7951 Location: Hyrule
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The movie itself doesn't make sense, but it's fun and AoU's Quicksilver was better than the one from XMDoFP, imo
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Algren
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68365
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Brian wrote: The movie itself doesn't make sense, but it's fun and AoU's Quicksilver was better than the one from XMDoFP, imo You're the only person on the planet that thinks that, so ... please can you let me know what you like so much about Ultron's Quicksilver compared to Future Past's one.
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Brian
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Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:21 pm Posts: 7951 Location: Hyrule
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Algren wrote: Brian wrote: The movie itself doesn't make sense, but it's fun and AoU's Quicksilver was better than the one from XMDoFP, imo You're the only person on the planet that thinks that, so ... please can you let me know what you like so much about Ultron's Quicksilver compared to Future Past's one. Perhaps, but..... To start with, both characters were useless, the QS from DoFP is overrated, the stop motion scene gets annoying once he pretends to make fun of the cops, and the music that plays on, felt out of place, it really bugged me. I still do not find anything special on it, (maybe you're right, I might be alone here); on the other hand, the QS from AoU looks more like the character from the comics but he was wasted and had a horrible accent, lol, though his abilities and action scenes on screen made me enjoy him a bit more. The only great thing about these poor personifications is to realize how amusing and interesting The Flash is 
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Algren
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Ok, interesting. I have no idea what Quicksilver looks like in the comics. Anyway, thanks for your reply.
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Wed May 06, 2015 10:58 pm |
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David
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I also prefer the Quicksilver in Age of Ultron. He seems cooler and more nuanced to me. More charismatic and intense. People just prefer Evan Peters' because he is given the most stylish and playful sequence in Days of Future Past.
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Flava'd vs The World
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 25427 Location: Classified
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I love the scene, but DOFP Quicksilver is way overpowered.
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Wed May 06, 2015 11:37 pm |
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Algren
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David wrote: People just prefer Evan Peters' because he is given the most stylish and playful sequence in Days of Future Past. Most likely. But I also prefer the way DOFP's Quicksilver speeds around, and the traces he leaves behind him - it appears much faster, more instant, than in Age of Ultron.
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Steve
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Yeah I pretty much agree with all criticisms of this movie. I tried to have low expectations, but was still hit by the pedestrian, tired nature of Avengers: Age of Ultron. Script choices that just don't work, relationships that are supposed to be meaningful but land with a thud. Not very engaging look or feel, retreading the familiar formula for these movies. Poorly balanced action (maybe it's just too much to ask to see these dozen or so superhumans utilized properly). Ending that felt ho-hum compared to the original's. I really loved the first AVENGERS but I think that might've been lightning in a bottle. The novelty is gone and the Marvel formula is wearing thin (for me this included last year's Guardians of the Galaxy, which despite coming off as very 'silly' and 'different' to everyone, struck me as pretty similar to all the others. Same formula, different cast, with slightly more goofy humor)
Hawkeye's secret family? Lame. His pep-talk to Scarlet Witch at the end? Really? Am I supposed to be feeling anything for these characters? Scarlett and Banner's awkward love thing? Stop. Nick Fury is back for a few scenes..... okay. Yay? Aaron Johnson is clearly the worst actor in a very long time? (I loved him in Kick-Ass..... then he sucked hard in everything). Robert Downey Jr.'s schtick getting old. "The Vision" was.... kind of cool.... definitely thinking 'Red Dr. Manhattan' at first, then he zips around like Neo in Matrix 2.... okay.... I didn't even catch his name in the movie, I thought he was just like, "I AM." Also would not have known the names of Quicksilver or Scarlet Witch if I didn't already know who they were.... were they referenced in the movie?
Oh and what an uninspiring ending, with the new team we care very little about.
Over it.
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Excel
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Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22210 Location: Places
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Steve wrote: Yeah I pretty much agree with all criticisms of this movie. I tried to have low expectations, but was still hit by the pedestrian, tired nature of Avengers: Age of Ultron. Script choices that just don't work, relationships that are supposed to be meaningful but land with a thud. Not very engaging look or feel, retreading the familiar formula for these movies. Poorly balanced action (maybe it's just too much to ask to see these dozen or so superhumans utilized properly). Ending that felt ho-hum compared to the original's. I really loved the first AVENGERS but I think that might've been lightning in a bottle. The novelty is gone and the Marvel formula is wearing thin (for me this included last year's Guardians of the Galaxy, which despite coming off as very 'silly' and 'different' to everyone, struck me as pretty similar to all the others. Same formula, different cast, with slightly more goofy humor)
Hawkeye's secret family? Lame. His pep-talk to Scarlet Witch at the end? Really? Am I supposed to be feeling anything for these characters? Scarlett and Banner's awkward love thing? Stop. Nick Fury is back for a few scenes..... okay. Yay? Aaron Johnson is clearly the worst actor in a very long time? (I loved him in Kick-Ass..... then he sucked hard in everything). Robert Downey Jr.'s schtick getting old. "The Vision" was.... kind of cool.... definitely thinking 'Red Dr. Manhattan' at first, then he zips around like Neo in Matrix 2.... okay.... I didn't even catch his name in the movie, I thought he was just like, "I AM." Also would not have known the names of Quicksilver or Scarlet Witch if I didn't already know who they were.... were they referenced in the movie?
Oh and what an uninspiring ending, with the new team we care very little about.
Over it.
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Mon May 11, 2015 8:47 pm |
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Brian
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Saw it again tonight, too messy, fun and forgettable. Plot holes are shit and I hate them, Scarlet Witch and action scenes rock though PS: Is it me or Scarlet Witch looks damn different in the last shot of her (Her face looks pretty weird when the new avengers team show up  ) B
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publicenemy#1
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 19444 Location: San Diego
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Magnus wrote: -the film lacked any true awesome moment. No "puny God" moment. I found nothing of the film to be memorable. I doubt I ever see it again
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Tue May 12, 2015 12:01 am |
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Excel
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Thor's look when Cap kind of moves the hammer is the best moment of the movie. Everything else sucks.
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