Terrorist attack in Paris leaves 12 dead
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Malcolm
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All religions are poison, this one is just an explosive kind of poison 
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MadGez
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Yeah that's fair enough. The Peshwar massacre was reported widely for a few days and then you didn't hear anything anymore. I based my view on this mainly on the relatively quiet from key Muslim leaders here in Oz after the recent Lindt café siege in Sydney (which understandably got a lot of press).
In terms of general population Muslims - I know many that are ardently against these attacks, IS etc so it goes without saying the vast majority are awell offcourse.
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How about we quit tolerating the Muslim loathing at the moment and quit pretending it is some sort of satire worthy of Moliere or Swift? Real satire goes after the those in power, this anti-Islamic jihad by Charlie Hebdo, Bill Maher and others of that ilk is bigotry hiding under the guise of liberal freedom of speech.
The world and especially the Western world are being manipulated into us against them mentality by the CIA, the U.S. military industrial complex, and other international organizations trying to maintain the status quo and continuing globalization. We need to be aware of our own transgressions, figure out how to remedy our own faults, and quit demonizing entire religions or ethnic groups when an extremist from an oppressed minority lashes out in a seemingly futile attempt to upset the apple cart.
I looked at some of the cartoons at CH today for the first time. I found a few of them funny, I will admit. However, I am not an oppressed minority in my own country, upset by my fellow muslims being killed by drone attacks by "civilized christian" countries which the Western world can't seem to be too much concerned, but some mentally unstable criminal gloms onto Islam or ISIS and this gathers the media's undivided attention for days. We get another week or 2 of why Islam is so violent or Muslims are so violent.
I also find it interesting that the cartoons seem much more interested in attacking and ridiculing Mohommed and not the hypocrisy of the terrorists and their professed islamic beliefs although some do. None of the cartoons attacking Catholicism and Judaism are concerned with mocking Jesus, Moses, or Abraham at least the ones I perused. The ones I saw were concerned with a specific topic like priest sexual abuse or the West bank.
I find this to be a double standard. I am so tired of the U.S media uncritical of the bigotry CH was championing. The people killed today were all victims but the ones who worked for the magazine were not equal opportunists religious satirists if my perusing of their cartoons was representative.
Je ne suis pas Charlie, mais je vais défendre leur droit d'être des charlatans moralisateurs.
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mdana wrote: How about we quit tolerating the Muslim loathing at the moment and quit pretending it is some sort of satire worthy of Moliere or Swift? Real satire goes after the those in power, this anti-Islamic jihad by Charlie Hebdo, Bill Maher and others of that ilk is bigotry hiding under the guise of liberal freedom of speech.
The world and especially the Western world are being manipulated into us against them mentality by the CIA, the U.S. military industrial complex, and other international organizations trying to maintain the status quo and continuing globalization. We need to be aware of our own transgressions, figure out how to remedy our own faults, and quit demonizing entire religions or ethnic groups when an extremist from an oppressed minority lashes out in a seemingly futile attempt to upset the apple cart.
I looked at some of the cartoons at CH today for the first time. I found a few of them funny, I will admit. However, I am not an oppressed minority in my own country, upset by my fellow muslims being killed by drone attacks by "civilized christian" countries which the Western world can't seem to be too much concerned, but some mentally unstable criminal gloms onto Islam or ISIS and this gathers the media's undivided attention for days. We get another week or 2 of why Islam is so violent or Muslims are so violent.
I also find it interesting that the cartoons seem much more interested in attacking and ridiculing Mohommed and not the hypocrisy of the terrorists and their professed islamic beliefs although some do. None of the cartoons attacking Catholicism and Judaism are concerned with mocking Jesus, Moses, or Abraham at least the ones I perused. The ones I saw were concerned with a specific topic like priest sexual abuse or the West bank.
I find this to be a double standard. I am so tired of the U.S media uncritical of the bigotry CH was championing. The people killed today were all victims but the ones who worked for the magazine were not equal opportunists religious satirists if my perusing of their cartoons was representative.
Je ne suis pas Charlie, mais je vais défendre leur droit d'être des charlatans moralisateurs. You forgot to mention the neoconservatives (Jews), The Council on Foreign Relations, The Project for The New American Century, The Trilateral Commission, The Bilderberg Group, something something Shah of Iran, and oil.
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Dr. Lecter
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Magnus wrote: yeah this thread went exactly how I thought it would go.
I must say, I am disappointed.
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Dr. Lecter
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mdana wrote: How about we quit tolerating the Muslim loathing at the moment and quit pretending it is some sort of satire worthy of Moliere or Swift? Real satire goes after the those in power, this anti-Islamic jihad by Charlie Hebdo, Bill Maher and others of that ilk is bigotry hiding under the guise of liberal freedom of speech.
The world and especially the Western world are being manipulated into us against them mentality by the CIA, the U.S. military industrial complex, and other international organizations trying to maintain the status quo and continuing globalization. We need to be aware of our own transgressions, figure out how to remedy our own faults, and quit demonizing entire religions or ethnic groups when an extremist from an oppressed minority lashes out in a seemingly futile attempt to upset the apple cart.
I looked at some of the cartoons at CH today for the first time. I found a few of them funny, I will admit. However, I am not an oppressed minority in my own country, upset by my fellow muslims being killed by drone attacks by "civilized christian" countries which the Western world can't seem to be too much concerned, but some mentally unstable criminal gloms onto Islam or ISIS and this gathers the media's undivided attention for days. We get another week or 2 of why Islam is so violent or Muslims are so violent.
I also find it interesting that the cartoons seem much more interested in attacking and ridiculing Mohommed and not the hypocrisy of the terrorists and their professed islamic beliefs although some do. None of the cartoons attacking Catholicism and Judaism are concerned with mocking Jesus, Moses, or Abraham at least the ones I perused. The ones I saw were concerned with a specific topic like priest sexual abuse or the West bank.
I find this to be a double standard. I am so tired of the U.S media uncritical of the bigotry CH was championing. The people killed today were all victims but the ones who worked for the magazine were not equal opportunists religious satirists if my perusing of their cartoons was representative.
Je ne suis pas Charlie, mais je vais défendre leur droit d'être des charlatans moralisateurs. CH used what they thought hurt more. Mocking Jesus would hardly upset too many people nowadays. They simply went with what was most provocative and offensive and I have no problem with that. And freedom of speech is just what it is, mdana, freedom of fucking speech.
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People will always find reasons to kill one another, but only in religion will you be promised eternal paradise in exchange for murder. That's just a fact.
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Thu Jan 08, 2015 2:32 pm |
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mdana
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Caius wrote: You forgot to mention the neoconservatives (Jews), The Council on Foreign Relations, The Project for The New American Century, The Trilateral Commission, The Bilderberg Group, something something Shah of Iran, and oil. Are you mocking me as having a tin foil hat or something else? My response was for ratcheting down "all terrorists are muslims" BS by some of the posters that had been previously posted, not some mumbo jumbo conspiracy about one world order or something.
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Caius
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What about the CIA manipulation and globalization remarks?
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mdana
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Dr. Lecter wrote: 1. CH used what they thought hurt more. 2. Mocking Jesus would hardly upset too many people nowadays. 3. They simply went with what was most provocative and offensive and I have no problem with that. 4. And freedom of speech is just what it is, mdana, freedom of fucking speech. To clarify, I modified DL's response for clarity in my responses. If there was any confusion from my previous post if I support free speech I am probably close to an extremist. I used to even support hate speech, but I have been rethinking my decision over the past decade or so, to be honest. To question the media characterization of the CH staff is not to minimize the criminality or heinious actions of the murderers. 1. That may have been true for some of the cartoonists, or true on some level for all. However, it doesn't excuse the fact that they were ridiculing a group in France that is and was under attack in France for not being French. From my understanding this type of bigotry is rampant on the Left and Right in France at the moment. 2. In France perhaps that is true. People in this country can still get locked up for it. http://kron4.com/2014/09/10/teen-could- ... us-statue/However, my complaint was how CH was presented continuously last night on the American media as equal opportunity satirists, when that was no longer accurate according to my readings and perusings (perhaps not representative) of the magazine's recent output. The most recent mocking of Jesus I found was 2006 and that was more criticism of French addiction to watching reality TV than any broader criticism of Catholicism or Christianity or the behaviours of their followers. This was written a little over 2 years ago: Quote: Charlie Hebdo never stopped publishing this type of cartoon, but it gradually lost readers. A new generation leads the magazine and people like me now hardly ever buy it. Times have changed, the humor has changed; the nastiness that used to make us laugh our heads off doesn’t seem as funny these days. Perhaps because reality has turned bloody, for good.
Pathetically, the left-wing radical magazine that once mocked left-wing radicals—as well as everyone else—has turned somewhat sour. It only seems to sell papers when it insults Muslims and plays with the lives of anonymous people (as well as its own reporters’).
In today’s Le Monde, Charb, the director of Charlie Hebdo, declared: “It may sound pompous, but I’d rather die standing than live on my knees.” Should a cartoonist become some kind of priest, leading a sacrificial ritual on the altar of freedom of speech? To what avail? http://religiondispatches.org/when-blas ... cause-one/At a certain point their freedom of speech protection veered into majority protected hate speech. 3. You may not have a problem (odd how often the majority protected have no problem when a minority is offended), but there are repurcussions when throwing bombs indiscriminately. The workers at CH may have been willing to die for their freedom of speech, but their actions created a dangerous situation for others that did not share their foolhardy calculations. Like Timothy Treadwell had the "right" to provoke a bear as many times as as he wanted until a bear eventually lashed out, we can't be really shocked at the final outcome. 4. Please point out where I stated anything differently? Do you need some smelling salts as well? Do you still live in Germany? Are there not limits to free speech in Germany when it is deemed to be hate speech or denigrates a protected class? CH was flirting with hate speech which is not protected by law in their descent into freedom of speech extremism irrelavency. Very few media oulets championing CH's bravery "for telling it like it is" are truly telling it like it was. I am tired of this hagiography the media does with their 2 minutes of Hate/Adoration lately, like with their coverage of The Interview last month. If we didn't see Seth Rogan's latest crapfest (and I really enjoyed SB and This is The End) we didn't belive in Freedom of Speech and Emmanual Goldstein was winnning again. To be skeptical it wasn't NK behind the operation was unpatriotic. It seems like the same sort of forces are at work to overide our intellect and propragandize an idea devoid of merit. These guys were L'enfant Terribles that had outlived their usefulness to provoke in a meaningful manner. They were couragous if a bit reckless on a certain level, but they were also bullies cowardly hiding behind the rubric of free speech on another. To pretend otherwise is a disservice to the memory of what they once stood for at a certain point in their careers.
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Dr. Lecter wrote: Magnus wrote: yeah this thread went exactly how I thought it would go.
I must say, I am disappointed. I'm happy to disappoint you pillars of acceptance and love for everyone everywhere all the time always 
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Jedi Master Carr
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mdana wrote: How about we quit tolerating the Muslim loathing at the moment and quit pretending it is some sort of satire worthy of Moliere or Swift? Real satire goes after the those in power, this anti-Islamic jihad by Charlie Hebdo, Bill Maher and others of that ilk is bigotry hiding under the guise of liberal freedom of speech.
The world and especially the Western world are being manipulated into us against them mentality by the CIA, the U.S. military industrial complex, and other international organizations trying to maintain the status quo and continuing globalization. We need to be aware of our own transgressions, figure out how to remedy our own faults, and quit demonizing entire religions or ethnic groups when an extremist from an oppressed minority lashes out in a seemingly futile attempt to upset the apple cart.
I looked at some of the cartoons at CH today for the first time. I found a few of them funny, I will admit. However, I am not an oppressed minority in my own country, upset by my fellow muslims being killed by drone attacks by "civilized christian" countries which the Western world can't seem to be too much concerned, but some mentally unstable criminal gloms onto Islam or ISIS and this gathers the media's undivided attention for days. We get another week or 2 of why Islam is so violent or Muslims are so violent.
I also find it interesting that the cartoons seem much more interested in attacking and ridiculing Mohommed and not the hypocrisy of the terrorists and their professed islamic beliefs although some do. None of the cartoons attacking Catholicism and Judaism are concerned with mocking Jesus, Moses, or Abraham at least the ones I perused. The ones I saw were concerned with a specific topic like priest sexual abuse or the West bank.
I find this to be a double standard. I am so tired of the U.S media uncritical of the bigotry CH was championing. The people killed today were all victims but the ones who worked for the magazine were not equal opportunists religious satirists if my perusing of their cartoons was representative.
Je ne suis pas Charlie, mais je vais défendre leur droit d'être des charlatans moralisateurs. are you blaming the cartoonist for this? It was free speech they should have never been killed. Those terrorists and anyone who does that are evil and should be killed. And I do think Bill Maher is partially right here. Parts of the Muslim world is just batshit. They treat women horrible, execute gays, Jews and Christians. It isn't completely the religion. It is the fact they are uncivilized. Groups like Isis and Al Quida are horrible and just evil and there are no justifications for what they do. And I am not saying we should ban islam. We just need to try to better educate them and hope those countries join us in the 21st century not the 11th.
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Dr. Lecter
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As usual, mdana, the one, who is simply not able to express himself consicely, your post is too long for me to get into detail. I read it, though, and I think that you have good intention, but still is, as you have often been, a connard. I'd so much love to lock you and Caius in a room for a day or a week or so and observe. That'd be the time of my life. And, yes, I still do live inm Germany (congrats, you can read!), which does not mean that I agree with all the laws and the politics here. Quote: From my understanding this type of bigotry is rampant on the Left and Right in France at the moment I gather you have deep knowledge of French society by the virtue of having lived there recently or having some direct connection to it? Because I do.
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Still can't get over the incompetence of the French police for letting them get away, same for the woman who let them in building. I mean it when I say I don't think either of things happen in the United States. I doubt the woman lets them into the building and know for a fact they'd never escape. The police of public or both would intervene beforehand. Magnus wrote: yeah this thread went exactly how I thought it would go. Caius wrote: why aren't they blowing themselves-up if it is not a religious/cultural thing?
Religion and culture are two different things. Terrorists are created moreso by the culture they are in, which has religious influence. I agree that this is a by-product of culture. That culture needs to change, though eliminating and changing this culture is far more difficult and complex than people can imagine (just like most cultures). also, LOL at people asking "where are the people condemning this". Any respectable Muslim person of prominence is condemning this just like they did of Peshawar (which btw the majority of Western people have already forgotten cause who the fuck cares about kids in Pakistan). The fact is that people don't even bother to look to see if they did (or just don't actually know who they are) and just assume the 99.99% of other Muslims are just being silent or agree with the attacks cause that's obviously the right assumption to make. To be fair, this is one of those cases where the tiny minority is making the vast majority of vocals. Most people don't just assume Muslim's are terrorists
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Dr. Lecter
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Jesus...now there are two hostage situations and Paris looks like a fucking warzone.
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Jedi Master Carr
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yeah this is crazy, it reminds me of Boston back in 2013.
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3? terrorists dead. 4? hostages dead.
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Dr. Lecter
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The bastards are dead. Good riddance. I would love for their heads to be put on spikes and for Mohamed caricatures to be tattooed on their naked corpses, which should them be dropped from planes over ISIS camps.
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Jedi Master Carr
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Dr. Lecter wrote: The bastards are dead. Good riddance. I would love for their heads to be put on spikes and for Mohamed caricatures to be tattooed on their naked corpses, which should them be dropped from planes over ISIS camps. They should be dropped over Al Quaid camps in Yemen. However, if they get connected I could see the U.S., France, and UK will probably bomb those camps.
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These are some of the ideas and I thoughts I was trying to convey when I stumbled into this thread, but does it better and more concisely than I could ever hope. I am coming off the flu so my thought process and writing might have been more incoherent and jumbled than normal. My OP was a reaction to the first blush of many in this country and the West to sanctimoniously and uncritically show solidarity, when reflection would show a more nuanced response to a situation much more complex than exploitive forces trying to manipulate the situation want to allow. http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2015/01/ ... uance.htmlThis editorial on the 2006 Danish cartoon controversy addresses the "concerns" of Caius about other organizations and some points of Dr. Lecter about free speech absolutism which I am unaware of ever having existed in the real world. Quote: ...Fortunately, this chasm's size is being exaggerated. The Muslim uproar over those Danish cartoons isn't as alien to American culture as we like to think. Once you see this, a benign and quintessentially American response comes into view.
Even many Americans who condemn the cartoon's publication accept the premise that the now-famous Danish newspaper editor set out to demonstrate: in the West we don't generally let interest groups intimidate us into what he called "self-censorship."
What nonsense. Editors at mainstream American media outlets delete lots of words, sentences and images to avoid offending interest groups, especially ethnic and religious ones. It's hard to cite examples since, by definition, they don't appear. But use your imagination.
Hugh Hewitt, a conservative blogger and evangelical Christian, came up with an apt comparison to the Muhammad cartoon: "a cartoon of Christ's crown of thorns transformed into sticks of TNT after an abortion clinic bombing." As Mr. Hewitt noted, that cartoon would offend many American Christians. That's one reason you haven't seen its like in a mainstream American newspaper.
Or, apparently, in many mainstream Danish newspapers. The paper that published the Muhammad cartoon, it turns out, had earlier rejected cartoons of Christ because, as the Sunday editor explained in an e-mail to the cartoonist who submitted them, they would provoke an outcry.
Defenders of the "chasm" thesis might reply that Western editors practice self-censorship to avoid cancelled subscriptions, picket lines or advertising boycotts, not death. Indeed, what forged the chasm consensus, convincing many Americans that the "Muslim world" might as well be another planet, is the image of hair-trigger violence: a few irreverent drawings appear and embassies go up in flames.
But the more we learn about this episode, the less it looks like spontaneous combustion. The initial Muslim response to the cartoons was not violence, but small demonstrations in Denmark along with a lobbying campaign by Danish Muslims that cranked on for months without making it onto the world's radar screen.
Only after these activists were snubbed by Danish politicians and found synergy with powerful politicians in Muslim states did big demonstrations ensue. Some of the demonstrations turned violent, but much of the violence seems to have been orchestrated by state governments, terrorist groups and other cynical political actors.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/17/opini ... d=all&_r=0And I don't remember a Je suis Scorcessee movement when right wing Christian extremists pulled off an equivalent stunt a few decades back, nor when right wing Christian extremists in this country have pulled off bombings and executions, much more recently. Quote: Attack on Saint Michel theater, Paris
On October 22, 1988, a French Christian fundamentalist group launched Molotov cocktails inside the Parisian Saint Michel theater while it was showing the film. This attack injured thirteen people, four of whom were severely burned.[9][10] The Saint Michel theater was heavily damaged,[10] and reopened three years later after restoration. Following the attack, a representative of the film's distributor, United International Pictures, said, "The opponents of the film have largely won. They have massacred the film's success, and they have scared the public." Jack Lang, France's Minister of Culture, went to the St.-Michel theater after the fire, and said, "Freedom of speech is threatened, and we must not be intimidated by such acts."[10] The Archbishop of Paris, Jean-Marie Cardinal Lustiger, said "One doesn't have the right to shock the sensibilities of millions of people for whom Jesus is more important than their father or mother."[10] After the fire he condemned the attack, saying, "You don't behave as Christians but as enemies of Christ. From the Christian point of view, one doesn't defend Christ with arms. Christ himself forbade it."[10] The leader of Christian Solidarity Worldwide, a self-described Christian group that had promised to stop the film from being shown, said, "We will not hesitate to go to prison if it is necessary."[10]
The attack was subsequently blamed on a Christian fundamentalist group linked to Bernard Antony, a representative of the far-right Front National to the European Parliament in Strasbourg, and the excommunicated followers of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre.[9] Lefebvre had been excommunicated from the Catholic Church on July 2, 1988. Similar attacks against theatres included graffiti, setting off tear-gas canisters and stink bombs, and assaulting filmgoers.[9] At least nine people believed to be members of the Christian fundamentalist group were arrested.[9] Rene Remond, a historian, said of the Christian far-right, "It is the toughest component of the National Front and it is motivated more by religion than by politics. It has a coherent political philosophy that has not changed for 200 years: it is the rejection of the revolution, of the republic and of modernism." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_T ... r.2C_Paris
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Jedi Master Carr
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I am not going a point by point of that because really that is just too much, especially since I am not familiar with some of the cases. My main point is we should be in solidarity with the cartoonists because these muslim extremists are just plain evil. I have no sympathy for them. I wish I could have been there and shot them myself. They are horrible and are much like the Nazis in terms of the damage they want to cause. They want to kill Jews, gays, atheists, subjugate women, and destroy are western way of life. Muslims extremists are a dark evil, and if I had my way I would wish them off the face of the earth.
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hmmm...............what happend to the terrorist woman?
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They don't think she's in France anymore. They believe she left on the 1st or 2nd headed to Turkey and on to Syria. She may still be in Turkey or Syria assuming current reports are correct.
Tomorrow is going to have a humongous march in Paris or something. Time Square NYE level security going on there. I'm gonna have to catch that on tv.
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Dr. Lecter
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Mdana, you are a fool. A fool with good intentions, I believe, but a fool nonetheless.
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The French seem to have caught the bastards fairly quickly, unlike the US that take years to catch anyone.
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