Where are you on the Kinsey scale?

I hope this thread isn't too terribly controversial and anti-gay people don't yell at me :wink:.


ANYWAY, in the tradition of the release of the film KINSEY, I decided to start a topic on the Kinsey scale.

This scale was developed by Dr. Alfred Kinsey and his associates in the late '40s and early '50s. These results were supported in studies conducted by Masters and Johnson and other sex researchers, though some more recent studies have reported lower rates nationally, with higher rates in urban areas. These studies collectively indicate there is a broad spectrum of sexual orientations - not just heterosexual and homosexual. Instead of looking a sexual orientation as an either-or condition, Kinsey developed a seven point continuum based on the degree of sexual responsiveness people have to the members of the same and other sex.

0 - exclusively heterosexual

1 - predominantly heterosexual, incidentally homosexual

2 - predominantly heterosexual, but more than incidentally homosexual

3 - equally heterosexual and homosexual

4 - predominantly homosexual, but more than incidentally heterosexual

5 - predominantly homosexual, incidentally heterosexual

6 - exclusively homosexual


Kinsey suggested that is is necessary to consider a variety of activities in assessing an individual's ranking on the continuum: fantasies, thoughts, dreams, emotional feelings, and frequency of sexual activity.


Therefore, many "heterosexuals" would fall, in fact, somewhere between 0 and 3 because they occasionally think/dream/fantasize about sexual activities with members of the same gender and/or occasionally act on these feelings.



Kinsey's researchers found that over a three-year period:

4 - 6% of men were rated as "6"

10 % of men were rated 4, 5, or 6

18% of men were rated as 3, 4, 5, or 6

37% of all men experienced orgasm in a sexual activity with another man at some time in their life.

60% of all men had some type of homosexual relationship before they were age 16.

30% of all men had some type of homosexual relationship between age 20 - 24.

Ranks for women were about one-half that of men (exact percentages were not provided by Kinsey). Keep in mind, this research was conducted as a time of lower sexual activity for women than recent surveys have indicated.

Research was conducted primarily with white college educated, volunteer subjects and with prisoners. This research did not clearly parcel out behaviors which did not persit from adolesence into adult life.


The National Health and Social Life Survey (Saumann, et. al., 1994) surveyed 1749 women and 1410 men in a random sample of US adult. They found 10% of men and 9% of women reporting at least one of the following: 1) sexual desire towards the same gender, 2) sexual identity is not heterosexual, and/or 3) sexual behavior with the same gender.


"My twin brother has talked to me about being bisexual but has never acted on his fantasies or inclinations... 10 years ago, I would have said he was closeted, but now I'm more inclined to accept the Kinsey theory of human sexuality..." -RADSUT


Here's another place where you can vote your Kinsey scale rating and see the poll results: http://www.misterpoll.com/2174717289.html



I think the Kinsey scale is quite brilliant and it's certainly true. Human sexuality just isn't black and white, it can't be narrowed down to gay, straight, and bi; there are things in between those even. Yes, we still use those labels, going by the one we feel best describes our feelings, but it's still different than that.

I go by the label "gay," but I do get crushes on girls sometimes too. I'll just find myself attracted to the person on some level. It's not that I necessarily want to have sex with them (God no, that would be so unnatural for me :wink:), but there's just a part of me that's attracted to a part of them. It's a mix of looks and their personality and stuff. Like, I thought Jessica Biel was friggin' HOT in The Rules of Attraction and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. She looked so yummy! I was practically drooling. Yet I still couldn't have sex with her. And I LOVE Anna Faris (Scary Movie 1-3, The Hot Chick, MAY), she's so damn cute. If I had the chance to sleep with her, I'd hate to say no, but I just couldn't do it. I'd love to be friends with her though .

To quote Helen in the great Kissing Jessica Stein, "I just find a lot of different things sexy."

I've thought long and hard about this, and while I consider myself gay, I'd have to rate myself maybe a 5. You really need to give it a lot of thought and consider many different things. Most people aren't going to be a perfect 0 or 6.

So, don't just select your rating right away, think about it for awhile first before you make your selection.

I disapprove of any categorization of human beings as heterosexual, bisexual, transexual, homosexual, para-ultra-globo-sexual, and so on.

What I approve of is one big category, and that is: human being.


Ok, so now to this chart-thingy: I'm 100% certain all men and women have at least a bit of the 'gay vibe' (excuse the term) thing in them. By that I mean, let a guy have enough drinks, and he'll give in to whatever. He won't remember, but isn't that good for you? :razz:


Ok, and 2 more things:

1) I remember being extremely rude to you over at BOM. Have I apologized? If not, I apologize now. Will you accept my apology?

2) I saw Kissing Jessica Stein in theatres when it came out. Proof: "malcompetent" :laugh: And Harvey Keitel: sexy-ugly :razz: It was a fun little film. How did you come across it?

This statement is soooooooooo gay.

I'm like a 1.5 - 2

2.93


or 3.07

My prof saidd something like that "Ther eis no such thing as homo or hetero sexual.. but only humansexuals"

I agree with what you're saying.

And no you didn't, but it's ok. No sweat. I accept. It's much easier being friends than enemies . And I apoligize for whatever I should apoligize for :wink:. I probably came on a little strong and annoyed you with my extreme opinions on things. So I'm sorry about that. But I'm really not that bad once you get to know me rink:.

I had actually been dying to see Kissing Jessica Stein when it was in theaters but it never came anywhere near me (nowhere within an hour and a half, which I would have went to see it). I thought it sounded smart and clever and the reviews were great. I still never expected to love it as much as I ended up loving it though. But anyway, I rented it the very day it hit video and I loved it. But I loved it more and more each time I watched it. There's so many things you don't notice the first time, just little things like expressions and the way things are said that it took more viewings in order for me to FULLY appreciate it. And also the great chemistry that Jennifer Westfeldt and Heather Juergensen have as Jessica and Helen. It's quite fascinating. Overall it's just a highly enjoyable, smart, funny, and truthful (loved the ending and it's so weird how so many people don't get it --- I guess you have to understand human sexuality in order to get it, but I got it and it couldn't have ended any other way) romantic comedy. It's a little gem.

I've ALWAYS wanted to see Kissing Jessica Stein. But never gotten around to.

Wow, that's actually really good, I like it.


Anyway, Susan Sarandon had this to say in an interview about ALFIE with Gay Wired when it came out:

I think everybody’s probably born bisexual and it’s just where you fall on different parts of the spectrum. I’ve been in long term relationships with two guys that hadn’t been with anybody before or since that were female.”

Sarandon’s candidness and openness about gay matters extends to her three children, Eva, Miles and Henry. “Everybody we know is gay,” she laughs. “Almost everybody that’s ever worked for us has been gay, their lives are filled with people that have been in long term gay relationships, both women and men, so they’re pretty much surrounded. One of my kids was in Little Red [School House], where they have a gay and lesbian month, not just a day! In talking to my kids about this subject I say ‘look, I think everybody, whatever your preference is, can find themselves in a situation where they’re attracted to and maybe could work in a relationship with something you don’t expect. But the real question is having the courage to be intimate.”


And I think she's kind of right. If everyone was just expected to be bisexual in society right now a lot more people would be open to the idea of being with both sexes, or at least open to experimenting. But since that's not the way it is a lot of people just don't even think about it, the thought is pushed to the back of their mind. It all depends on the situation. I think a lot of people could be with someone of the same sex in the right situation. Human sexuality is very complex and impossible to pin down.

Greatm glad we cleared that up. And no need to apolgize, I'm positive you didn't do anything wrong.

About the ending, you know, it seemed the most natural thing to me. I mean, you go through phases, in and out, until you find something that suits you. I appreciated the fact that they *spoiler* didn't end up staying with each other, although the fact that she got together with that guy made it a bit too formulaic, almost as if it was meant to be*spoiler* It would have been a real twist if Jessica went up to him, he turned around and said "Hey, I have something to tell you: I just discovered this morning that I'm gay. So, sorry, but the last 1 1/2 hours that I spent chasing you was all for nothing. But hey, that's life, isn't it?" I would have been on the floor laughing if he had said that :laugh:

Wow, you definitely should. Everyone I know that I've showed it to has enjoyed it/loved it. The only ones that didn't think it was that great were my brother and two sisters because I don't think they got it at all. It was way over their head. The dialogue especially, and then the ending. They aren't into big words :wink:. But my "straight" male friend who usually doesn't like "chick flicks" thought it was great. He laughed and found Jessica hilarious. So that's saying something. You don't have to like romantic comedies to enjoy it. I know someone else who saw it based on my recommendation even though they didn't like romance movies but I talked them into it, and they loved it too - and their girlfriend adored the movie.

LOL! That would have been funny. People like my brother would have died if that happened though :razz:. He thinks whenever there's a guy and a girl in a movie they have to be together. ***spoilers kinda*** When Jessica told him that she was with Helen and they walked off together my brother had to leave the room because he was so disgusted ***end spoilers*** :wink:. He thought that was ridiculous. He's an idiot though. Trust me on that one. If a guy and girl in a movie don't get together he thinks it's stupid and pointless. If a guy and a girl so much as look at each other in a movie they HAVE to get together. He thought the movie WHEN STRANGERS APPEAR I think it's called was stupid because Radha Mitchell didn't get together with Barry Watson . If you see the movie you'll think that's stupid. OH, and he thought it was too bad Paul Rudd's character in THE OBJECT OF MY AFFECTION wouldn't have "gone straight" so he could be with Jennifer Aniston's character :wink:.

Well, if it was Angelina Jolie, I would understand if he turned straight. I'd turn into whatever she wanted me to for her

Anyways, this is not about my obsession with Angelina Jolie.

Oh btw (sorry to hijack thread), which male actor do you find hot? What do you think of the young Marlon Brando? I wish I looked like him. I think everyone wishes to,






He's also my favourite actor. Pure, raw genius.

I think he's attractive. But I'm not actually into big muscles usually. Muscles can be fine though (Paul Walker is hot ), but not too big of ones.

Right now I'm actually crushing on Ryan Kelley of MEAN CREEK and THE DUST FACTORY. He's so adorable . And he's 18 so it's not wrong :wink:. He just looks like he could be younger. I'm only 19 so I'm hardly much older than him, of course I turn 20 on Monday so that is making us farther apart in age , but it's still ok .


Males I think are hot:

Steve Sandvoss (Latter Days)
Daniel Letterle (Camp)
Milo Ventimiglia (Never thought he was that hot on Gilmore Girls but definitely found him sexy in Cursed)
Ryan Carnes (Desperate Housewives hottie)
Shawn Pyfrom (Desperate Housewives hottie)
Jake McDorman (Quintuplets)
Ryan Gosling (Never found him attractive until The Slaughter Rule, where I found him very sexy. And he was cute in The Notebook too)
Eric Johnson (REALLY hot in Ginger Snaps 2)
Lucas Bonnifait (My Life on Ice, Same Sex Parents)
Bryan Greenberg (The Perfect Score)
Daniel Travis (Open Water - I thought he was cute here anyway)
Chad Faust (Saved! and The Ranch)
Peter Krause (Six Feet Under, We Don't Live Here Anymore)
David Sutcliffe (Gilmore Girls)
Billy Aaron Brown (8 Simple Rules)
Tygh Runyan (The L Word, Dead Like Me, Twist)
Jonathan Bennet (Mean Girls)
Thomas Jane (Dreamcatcher, The Sweetest Thing, The Punisher)
John White (How To Deal)
Dan Futterman (Urbania, Judging Amy, Enough)
Bret Harrison (Grounded For Life)
Loius Garrel (The Dreamers)
Simon Rex (Scary Movie 3)
Trevor Morgan (Mean Creek --- I found him hot in this movie and he's 18 now! I didn't find him hot when he was a kid and in movies :razz: --- but man has he grown up fast :grin:)
Josh Charles (Threesome, Don't Tell Mom The Babysitter's Dead, S.W.A.T.)
Ryan Reynolds (Two Guys & A Girl, Blade: Trinity, Buying The Cow, The Amityville Horror)
John Reardon (White Chicks)

Sexy-ugly guys:

Bill Maher
Jay Leno (Shhhh! :-$ Don't even say anything :wink:)


And many more :razz:...


Females I think are hot/cute:

Christina Ricci (Monster, Cursed)
Natalie Portman (Garden State, Closer)
Lauren Graham (Gilmore Girls, Seeing Other People, Bad Santa, Pacifier)
Jessica Biel (The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Rules of Attraction, Blade 3)
Mia Kirschner (The L Word, Exotica, Not Another Teen Movie, 24)
Rachel McAdams (The Hot Chick, Mean Girls, The Notebook)
Charlize Theron (Monster, The Italian Job)
Kristen Bell (Veronica Mars)
Karina Lombard (The L Word)
Elisha Cuthbert (The Girl Next Door, 24)
Christina Applegate (Great cleavage in The Sweetest Thing)
Naomi Watts (Mulholland Drive, The Ring)
Julianne Moore (I think she's beautiful myself - She's also very talented and just seems to be a wonderful woman - I love her)
Anna Faris (Duh! She's only my personal favorite actress. Adorable in THE HOT CHICK, sexy in MAY, and making stupid seem oh so hot in the SCARY MOVIE flicks)
Michelle Williams (Dawson's Creek, The Station Agent, If These Walls Could Talk 2)
Jacinda Barrett (Just fell in love with her in Ladder 49 and Bridget Jones: The Edge of Reason)
Keira Knightley (Bend It Like Beckham, Love Actually, The Hole)
Blanchard Ryan (Open Water)
Piper Perabo (Coyote Ugly, Lost & Delirious)
Ashley Judd (Double Jeopardy, De-Lovely)
Alexandra Holden (How To Deal, Dead End, The Hot Chick)
Neve Campbell (Panic, Scream 1-3, Wild Things)
Jennifer Westfeldt (Kissing Jessica Stein)
Katie Holmes (Dawson's Creek, Pieces of April)
Radha Mitchell (When Strangers Appear, High Art, Man On Fire, Finding Neverland, Pitch Black)

And many more...

I guess I'm a 1, I know I'm straight but I've balltapped dudes before... only when they deserve it though..

1. "Kissing Jessica Stein" is brilliant. Even better if you see it a few times and then let it "marinate" :wink:

2. I want Susan Sarandon to adopt me. And every other child in the friggin´world...

3.I am a Kinsey fan boy. No, seriously. Like some people are LOTR fans, I am KInsey´s. I was there when they showed the film first showing, and I didn´t dress up like him because I´m stupidly shy. I´ve read everything I could about the man, plan to buy the two big books in my next trip to the US, have written essays about him and his influence... I am just a fan boy. He was one of the most influential people in the XX century and the world is such a much better place right now because of him... I know I sound like a crazy Michael Jackson fan, but this is all true.

The scale is also brilliant. I agree with the not being hetero, homo, bi... those are categories that we are created in the last Century! And even Kinsey said that you can find yourself in different points of the scale in different periods of your life, therefore human sexuality evolves, changes and is never something written on a stone, at least not for everybody, probably not even for a majority...

So thank you so much for this thread. :razz: And I´ve just realized, "Kissing Jessica Stein" is more "Kinsey" than "Kinsey" the movie ever was. It talks about all this but in a much funnier, tenderer way.

As most posters here now, I am a very strong supporter of gay rights. Therefore, I hope they will undrestand that when I say that I am in that small percentage that is exclusively heterosexual that I am sincere. I would not be embarassed to say that I had homosexual feelings but the fact is that I never have. I have never had dreams or fantasies about other men and certainly have never had a sexual encounter with another man.

My wife, however, is a different story, but you're not getting that one. :wink:

Sure you may not approve of these categorisations by society isnt going to change overnight just because people have a distaste for the way sexualities are labelled. For a true revolution it would take decades, possibly a century

Awesome! I think Kissing Jessica Stein is brilliant too and the ultimate lesson in human sexuality :wink: - for the people that "get it" anyway. And I almost used the word "marinate" in my first post when I told people to really think about it. I was thinking of saying to let it marinate for a while, but then I figured the people who hadn't seen the movie wouldn't get it anyway :razz:.

And I agree that Susan Sarandon would be the coolest mom, besides Lorelai Gilmore, but she's a character on a TV show and not real :wink:.

LOL!

But as long as you're gay-friendly that's all that matters :wink:.

4.

I guess i'd be a 1.5

I often think about my male friends in a "sexual' way, I guess. I get crushes on men. I can speak openly about a guy being "hot" and not feel uncomfortable. I don't act on the thoughts, though, so yeah... 1.5.

And just like that, I think everyone´s curiosity sky-rocketed :wink:

I'm probably a 2, all things considered.

OK.. who is the sole 6?? I am DYING to know \:D/ :wink: :wink:

I'm a 0. Anything homosexual grosses me out. (Don't take offense to this, just my opinion)