X-Men: Days of Future Past
X-Men: Days of Future Past
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Biggestgeekever
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The Dark Shape wrote: That comes from softening Trask. Originally Trask killed Kennedy and framed Magneto, using the outrage to further his position. Fascinating. A lot of the things you've mentioned being changed from the script would have made for a more interesting, complete film. I guess I can justify the JFK plot by it being some sort of government cover-up, but I recall that the viral marketing heavily implies that Mystique was the shooter. Also, I can't remember the exact dialogue, but Dallas was mentioned when Mystique confronted Magneto in the subway.
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Biggestgeekever
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David wrote: In the comics, she is this blend of cruel, intelligent, playful, sexy, and volatile. They have never captured the magic on the big screen. I forgot "she" was even in Origins: Wolverine. It was the most halfhearted, unfaithful rendering imaginable. I would love to see her recast for the next one, maybe as a member of Apocalypse's Horsemen.
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Various things I loved: (spoilers ahead)
-Wolverine walking through the metal scanner -Charles specifically calling back to the first time he and Magneto met Wolverine -The amount of Beast in this movie -TOAD (I actually enjoyed him in the first X-Men) -Everything Quicksilver -The movie not simply forgetting all of the characters from First Class (with a few exceptions such as Rose Byrne and January Jones) -The mixture of First Class & original X-men score (albeit not a great score, but it's X-Men) -Stryker's role (I thought it could have felt shoehorned in, but it just seemed right) -The time travel rules (as crazy as it was, it seemed logical to me) -Mystique's bigger importance
Still an A after thinking about it for a day.
Only improvements I could think of: -Better use of Dinklage (though this may be Game of Thrones clouding this for me) -No real reason for them to abandon Quicksilver. If anything, Xavier, Beast, and Wolverine could have used him instead of Magneto the whole time.
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I have a quick question. I haven't seen the original 3 movies in years, haven't seen Origins since it was in theaters and never saw The Wolverine or First Class. I'm seeing this tomorrow because my boyfriend wants to see it. It is necessary to rewatch the old ones? Just watch First Class? Or will I just understand it going in? HELP. 
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Thegun
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First Class is pivotal, The Wolverine is not outside of the end credits sequence. However The Wolverine was the best superhero film last year and you shouldn't skip it.
This is a First Class sequel first and foremost.
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Alright, I'll have to check it out then. I started watching it when it first came out on Blu-ray but I just couldn't get into it for some reason. Hopefully I was just in an off mood or something.
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Brian
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I liked a lot, but it left me a bunch of questions
First, can somebody explain me how the fuck wolverine got his metal claws back in the future days?
Why the film starts in an apocalyptic era, when at the end of The Wolverine, Xavier and Erik met up Logan in a serene and nonviolent airport?
Why is Mystique helping/saving Logan in the past days? and how this fact affects the present days?
With that kind of end, do the events from The Wolverine really happened? Mariko, Yukio and his culpability of having killed Jean really matters now?
Wasn't Trask black in X3, lol
It was surprising to watch Rougue and IceMan together again after Kitty's big role with him,,,,,speaking of that, which lines/scenes involving Rougue were cut from the movie?
The Quicksilver scene, which everybody praises, was not as awesome as I thought it would be.
The were a great amount of Xavier (young/old), Wolverine, Mystique, Beast, IceMan and young Magneto scenes, however I think old Magneto was a bit wasted despite of his few lines and his fantastic metal door shot,,,, but I still don't get what actually happened to him at the end?
The simple fact of showing up red hair Jean and Cyclops was gold....... Damn Singer, that single part makes me want a sequel with just the old cast
As I stated the film is pretty awesome but leaves so many unanswered questions
B+/A-
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David
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What Mystique will do with Wolverine while impersonating Stryker is, I believe, meant to be a lingering question. Perhaps it is a setup for Wolverine to be directly involved with the further exploits of young Xavier, young Magneto, young Beast, etc.
And it is my impression the ending of this film wipes away the events of X-Men Origins: Wolverine, X-Men, X2, X-Men: The Last Stand, and The Wolverine. Or rather puts the franchise is in a place where they can say, "This did not happen in this new timeline, but this did." (If I remember correctly, during her five-second cameo, Rogue is shown as still having the streak of white hair, indicating the incident at the Statue of Liberty also transpired in the alternate timeline.)
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Brian
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David wrote: And it is my impression the ending of this film wipes away the events of X-Men Origins: Wolverine, X-Men, X2, X-Men: The Last Stand, and The Wolverine. Exactly, I came up with the same conclusion,,,,, it's so confusing 
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Jonathan
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The Dark Shape wrote: David wrote: I want to see this scene in motion: . It might show up in the deleted scenes. Originally, when Logan has his attack and stabs Kitty, she starts fading badly. Magneto and Bobby head off to find Rogue, who's being held captive at a Trask facility in the old X Mansion (you can see them carrying her through a tunnel in the first trailer). Bobby ends up sacrificing himself so that Magneto can get her out. Does this explain how Paquin got her own title card in the credits for about 8 seconds of screen time?
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Brian
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The Dark Shape wrote: David wrote: I want to see this scene in motion: . It might show up in the deleted scenes. Originally, when Logan has his attack and stabs Kitty, she starts fading badly. Magneto and Bobby head off to find Rogue, who's being held captive at a Trask facility in the old X Mansion (you can see them carrying her through a tunnel in the first trailer). Bobby ends up sacrificing himself so that Magneto can get her out. Sounds cool, I hope we get to see that
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choubachou
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Well it was quite good. Not terribly amazing, but quite good.
What was the after-credits scene all about?
Also, when exactly is this story taking place? If it takes place after The Last Stand, isn't Xavier supposed to be dead?
Why haven't we ever heard about the Sentinels in any of the past movies, if it has been a major threat since 1973?
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David
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The Egyptian figure in the post-credits scene is Apocalypse (En Sabah Nur): http://marvel.wikia.com/Apocalypse
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Brian
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choubachou wrote: Why haven't we ever heard about the Sentinels in any of the past movies, if it has been a major threat since 1973?
Actually, that's not true There is a reference from them in X3
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On par with First Class for me. Not as good as the original films from 2000 and 2003, but superbly made in general and quite entertaining. B+
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David
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Brian wrote: choubachou wrote: Why haven't we ever heard about the Sentinels in any of the past movies, if it has been a major threat since 1973?
Actually, that's not true There is a reference from them in X3 Indeed. The fan-servicing Danger Room cameo.
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This was good, but cmon best superhero movie ever. Nah I don't think so. I still prefer X2 as the best X-Men flick, but this is atleast on par with FC if not a bit better. The CGI/effects have vastly improved this time around, but the Magneto/Xavier conflict just isn't as strong in this one outside of maybe that plane scene.
Also, I really wanted more focus on the Sentinels. Yeah it was cool seeing them fuck up some mutants in the opening scene, but that's about it until the very end. The old cast didn't have much of anything to do which I expected, but I still enjoyed seeing everybody again and the X-Force was pretty awesome and badass.
Lawrence and Hoult performances are also better this time around and even Mcavoy isn't completely outshined by Fassbender and the scene between him and Stewart is great. Dinklage was ok as Trask, but their really isn't anything compelling or engaging about his character.
Of course by now Jackman can sleepwalk as Wolverine and it would still be awesome.
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FILMO
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So after some of you saw it.
When I have seen X-Men 1-3 and First Class I will understand most of the story in Future Past? Wolverine etc. isnt really necessary?
Its just I dont want to buy the spinn-offs just to be able to follow the main storyline.
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Ya - Wolverine and X-Men Origins are completely unnecessary to watch for this story line.
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FILMO
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MGKC wrote: Ya - Wolverine and X-Men Origins are completely unnecessary to watch for this story line. thx
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Brian
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FILMO wrote: So after some of you saw it.
When I have seen X-Men 1-3 and First Class I will understand most of the story in Future Past? Wolverine etc. isnt really necessary?
Its just I dont want to buy the spinn-offs just to be able to follow the main storyline. MGKC wrote: Ya - Wolverine and X-Men Origins are completely unnecessary to watch for this story line. Actually, in the end, all these prequels aren't necessary 'cause the end is open and can go everywhere, and you will avoid thinking of inconsistences But at the same time the film is filled with a lot of references, that's up to you 
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Algren
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X-Men: Days of Future Past
This is a really entertaining film. It deleted the memories of the lacklustre The Wolverine, and the even worse X-Men Origins: Wolverine, and put the core of the X-Men back to centre stage. While Wolverine was still the most featured one of the gang, Days of Future Past feels like a true X-Men movie with the focus back on mutants. Most of the film focuses on the 1970s, so in that respect it is a direct sequel to First Class, thankfully. And I much prefer the 1970s scenes and story arc to the modern day/future stuff. The way that Singer fits this story into the already meddlesome timeline of the X-Men series is nothing short of genius. Mostly everything is explained and understood.
I was glad that the older X-Men characters were not in it so much; Halle Berry is only in it for about 2 minutes, and she only has about 5 words to say, the same applies to Ellen Page and the others. The story wasn't bogged down by the reputations and expectations of an old cast (Famke Janssen, for example). In this, Wolverine sheds any disdain that he built up in The Wolverine, and, because of good writing, he is now a character that I like again.
The story in this is good, how they linked all real-life incidents to the X-Men timeline, and the acting is really great by Michael Fassbender (who is quickly becoming one of my favourite actors), James McAvoy, Jennifer Lawrence and Nicolas Hoult. There is nothing that I actually hated in the film. It could have had better music, or more money shots, but on the whole it does a decent job of just entertaining, and is marginally better than First Class.
I didn't like how they shoehorned China into the film for financial reasons. This is becoming a pathetic and unresearched trend by studio execs, occurring in Looper, Iron Man 3, The Expendables 2 and now Days of Future Past. The Chinese, while not intellectuals by any means, are not that easily fooled into seeing a film. Needlessly setting it in China, or adding a Chinese actress for no apparent reason, is being noticed by Chinese audiences and they are rolling their eyes whenever these things occur. But anyway, it didn't detract from the film at all.
The effects in the film are superb and well thought out. The action sequences arrived with finesse and a nice side of humour. The film did have a tendency to be a little patchy, and the flow was interrupted from time to time. Again; minor niggles. I actually wish to see it again...I enjoyed it very much.
The after-credits scene is just mind-fuck "wow" (as it has nothing to do with anything) and it makes me think that another X-Men film could be so great. Looking forward to a 1980s based X-Men film with Fassbender, McAvoy, Jackman, Lawrence, Hoult and the old gang (young Stryker, young Storm, young Cyclops etc.).
B+
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Algren
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So, let's figure the timeline out: 1845: X-Men Origins: Wolverine 1945: The Wolverine 1962: X-Men: First Class 1973: X-Men: Days of Future Past 1979: X-Men Origins: Wolverine 2000: X-Men 2003: X2 2006: X-Men: The Last Stand 2013: The Wolverine 2023: X-Men: Days of Future Past Wow, Logan/Wolverine is very old. He must be around 185 years old. Back to X-Men: Days of Future Past, I didn't like the modern Sentinels too much, and the first phase Sentinels were also not to my liking. They were not terrible, but they were not as I have in my mind: 
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David
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I wish the Sentinels in the film were larger.
I am glad you enjoyed the film. I agree with your review.
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