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Eagle
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Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:09 pm Posts: 14631 Location: Pittsburgh
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 WoKJ Threatened, Soon To Be Sued.
All,
Sanders Law, on behalf of National Photo Group, is currently threatening legal action against WoKJ. The firm is claiming copyright infringement for am image which was embedded in a WoKJ post (never hosted, just linked and embedded with img tags). According to the suit, we are liable for damages between $750 and $30,000 + their legal fees.
The post in question was long ago deleted, so I can't refer back to it for details.
The law firm here is a troll, they are simply looking to extort money, likely around $1000 to $2000 from me and many others. They have sent me one email, and now one letter. It seems I'll get another letter, and then I expect them to file suit (as they have in over 100 cases thus far). Some cases are actively being litigated, none have run to completion. I hate the idea of settling with them, I hate the financial impact of both settling and litigating.
I haven't yet sought legal counsel, but will soon have to do so (when a suit is filed). This is going to be a mess, and could prove to be the end of WoKJ. I'll try to keep you updated.
Regards,
Karl
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BK
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That's ridiculous. I hope it gets thrown out.
No one takes credit for anything. It's obvious photos on forums are linked or whatever.
Fuck these moneygrabbing cunts.
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Brian
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Noooo, this can't be happening All this shit is fucking senseless 
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Dr. Lecter
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Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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Umm, there is no way they can actually go through with this, can they? I mean, I could register myself at a dozen of online forums now and just post a picture there and those websites would be sued? For all we know, the law firm itself could embed that picture in a forum.
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Keyser Söze
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Joined: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:21 pm Posts: 6709
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I am sorry to hear about this. Have yoy looked at option mentioned in the beloe lnk. http://copyright-trolls.com/site/randy- ... se-league/
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68222 Location: Seattle, WA
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They can file, but they obviously won't win, but the costs involved, even in a non-win case, are too much for WOKJ, which is basically just a hobby site. This sort of shit makes me sick. These bastards. But surely if they lose, they will have to pay all the fees, no?
I guess if WOKJ is to continue, a no image policy might be sensible, although I hope not.
Sorry to hear this news, Karl.
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Chippy
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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National Photo Group wrote: We have a Sanders Law Firm! Eagle wrote: We have a Groucho.
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CowboyFromHell
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Joined: Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:23 pm Posts: 2033 Location: Somewhere, USA
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Wow, that's really pathetic. Sorry to hear about this, Karl.
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Kenspy
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Joined: Thu May 18, 2006 12:09 pm Posts: 1874
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Represent yourself pro se and fight it. I'd personally think it would be fun. The chances of you losing seems very minimal and I think they would hate to go to trial even more than you would (their hope is that you are terrified of the prospect). If you feel like you might lose, you can always just settle with them.
Of course you should seek legal advice if you are uncomfortable, but hiring a lawyer seems like a cost without any real benefit. The lawyer is going to do the same thing you do (look up past cases and respond similarly).
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David
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Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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Wow. How strange and awful. I have honestly never heard of such lawsuits nor did I ever consider there could be any ramifications from the posting of a picture, which I do quite often (to illustrate news stories and such)...  I hope it turns out as well as possible for you, Karl.
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BJ
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Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:57 pm Posts: 25035 Location: Anchorage,Alaska
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I don't think they can't win a suit, research time.
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El Maskado
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:17 pm Posts: 21572
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Magnus wrote: fuck. seriously, call Groucho or someone. this is bullshit. No better yet  Anyhow, there is no case. The worst they can do is to tell them to take down certain images and since the site makes no profit, they have no case to sue for money. I do remember Ladiesman threatening to sue the website.
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68222 Location: Seattle, WA
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El Maskado wrote: The worst they can do is to tell them to take down certain images and since the site makes no profit, they have no case to sue for money. I'm not a lawyer, but this seems to make sense.
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matatonio
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Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:56 pm Posts: 26066 Location: In good ol' Mexico
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This is ridiculous. They cant win a suit.
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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El Maskado wrote: Magnus wrote: fuck. seriously, call Groucho or someone. this is bullshit. No better yet  Lawsuit by AMC coming soon.
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68222 Location: Seattle, WA
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We should try and make this story become viral so that the media can win it for Karl even before he receives his next letter from them.
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Flava'd vs The World
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 25174 Location: Classified
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Fucking trolls. If the post was deleted long ago how can they prove it ever existed? Can you counter sue over them being a bunch of cunts? I don't think they can win though. How could you be liable for this? If you had refused to take it down after they informed you is one thing, but pulling this bullshit years later can't be legal. They're probably just trying to intimidate you into a quick settlement.
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Chippy
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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I'm not going to start going to that other fucking forum.
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Argos
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I hope it was me who posted the picture in question.
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Groucho
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Chippy wrote: National Photo Group wrote: We have a Sanders Law Firm! Eagle wrote: We have a Groucho. If they send you anything, send it to me. It's one of those harassment lawsuits where they just try to get money out of you because it's cheaper than fighting it.
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68222 Location: Seattle, WA
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Yeah, it totally sounds like a quick settlement con.
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Jack Sparrow
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DP07
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15493 Location: Everywhere
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Jiffy
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I have never heard of anything like that.
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Thegun
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21855 Location: Walking around somewhere
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If you don't win call me. There is no single way that this flies. BS to the extreme
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