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Bradley Witherberry
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 Re: The Hunger Games: Catching Fire
The first hour of The Hunger Games: Catching Fire is very good!
Unfortunately, it's followed by another hour and a half of monotony.
I dug all the scenes in the capital and the whole district road trip was so promising, but then the whole thing flew off the rails as it settled into the tedious titular games. I love survival movies, but this stuff is dullsville.
Nonetheless, there was a welcome increase in the weirdly satirical political commentary in this sequel. I rated the first movie "1 out of 5", and this one is twice as good - - with a little luck, the third one might even go as high as a "3 out of 5"!
2 out of 5.
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thompsoncory
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I'm glad you at least enjoyed the first hour Bradley.
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Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:54 pm |
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MGKC
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Loved it. As others already said, superior in every way to the first film. Actually felt like the epic movie it needed to be.
The uncut rotating shot of Katniss going up the tube before the games start is amazing.
A- / A
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Riggs
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:36 am Posts: 13299 Location: Vienna
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MGKC wrote: Loved it. As others already said, superior in every way to the first film. Actually felt like the epic movie it needed to be.
The uncut rotating shot of Katniss going up the tube before the games start is amazing.
A- / A Lawrence was just amazing in that scene. The look on her face after seeing how Kravitz gets beaten up a few seconds before the games start is acting in perfection.
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Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:27 am |
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Bradley Witherberry
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MGKC wrote: As others already said, superior in every way to the first film. It is essentially the same movie as the first, but inarguably better made.
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Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:31 am |
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Algren
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Well that was complete and utter garbage. I was bored. Everything pre-tournament was boring and like a teen soap opera, and everything during the tournament was terribly filmed, badly lit, rushed, and just overall poorly executed. The whole film is badly acted. Peeta and Katniss displaying some of the worst teen dialogue I have ever seen, looking so awkward and the acting is forced (especially during the favourite colours scene). One of the best parts of The Hunger Games was Stanley Tucci, but he was overly annoying in this sequel with his incessant "haha-haha-ha" after and before every line of dialogue.
Once again, this franchise chickens out of anything remotely close to shocking. It plays it safe at every turn. I can't believe the popularity really, because it's just as bad as a fantasy TV series. It's basically a remake of the first movie. It's so similar to the first movie in that it has no soul. It's an empty carcas of a movie. I couldn't give a shit what happened to any of the characters, and that cliffhanger...oooooooh, I don't care. I won't be wasting my time on the next ones. Bad production design, two dimensional teenie-bopper characters and some of the worst visual effects I've seen in a blockbuster.
The best things about the movie were 1) Katniss' arrow into the ceiling as the bolt of lightning hit the tree - I thought that was a neat idea, 2) the Coldplay song in the end credits, 3) the fact that when the Games started, we didn't seen the control room or anything (because the knew that we already know how it works from seeing the first), and 4) Phillip Seymour Hoffman - I thought he was good, and it was a welcome surprise when he came on for the first time as I didn't know he was in it. Still not enough to save this waste of a film.
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Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:36 am |
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MGKC
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You can hate on Catching Fire, but you cannot hate on Stanley Tucci.
His reaction to the engagement only could have made the entire movie for me.
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BJ
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Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:57 pm Posts: 25035 Location: Anchorage,Alaska
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Magnus wrote: If I see this film, it will solely be because of Stanely Tucci. He was fantastic in the first. He's just as awesome of not better this time round.
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BJ
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BJs Grade:
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Best of 2013
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Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:25 pm |
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Thegun
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A+
I loved it, a bigger step up over the first film IMO in almost every way. The Elevator scene with Jena Malone was one of the funniest moments of the year as well.
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Riggs
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:36 am Posts: 13299 Location: Vienna
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This thread is going into the right direction.
If they get both Mockingjays right too, this will be one of the greatest franchises of all-time.
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Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:54 pm |
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Mau
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There's no way they can make Mockingjay 1 as good as this movie. They just can't.
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publicenemy#1
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I personally thought Mockingjay was the worst book. I hope the films elevates stuff up.
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Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:00 pm |
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Algren
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Lol. That grade is for the absolute pinnacle in film-making. Even if you enjoyed it a lot, I don't believe you are brainwashed that much to the degree that you act like a little girl grading Twilight. Do you honestly believe that everything in the movie is perfect?
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Mau
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Algren wrote: Lol. That grade is for the absolute pinnacle in film-making. Even if you enjoyed it a lot, I don't believe you are brainwashed that much to the degree that you act like a little girl grading Twilight. Do you honestly believe that everything in the movie is perfect? Go suck David's dick.
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Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:39 pm |
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Algren
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Mau wrote: Algren wrote: Lol. That grade is for the absolute pinnacle in film-making. Even if you enjoyed it a lot, I don't believe you are brainwashed that much to the degree that you act like a little girl grading Twilight. Do you honestly believe that everything in the movie is perfect? Go suck David's dick. It'd be more enjoyable than watching Catching Fire.
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Gopher
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I didn't like The Hunger Games at all. Some of it may have been limited by the material they were adapting (haven't read any of the books btw) but I thought it was a sloppily-directed film that looked like crap and didn't have nearly enough urgency or focus. Catching Fire, on the other hand, is one of if not the best "blockbuster" I've seen all year. Finally a YA adaptation that seems to take its audience seriously. This film is wrestling with themes of oppression, hope and rebellion, and surprisingly doesn't shy away from portraying the brutality of Panem's government. It takes a long time for the movie to even get to the games because the first hour is mostly just characters talking, but it's still riveting stuff, particularly because Katniss (performed with depth and vitality by Jennifer Lawrence) has become a compelling character to be aligned with in this world. And the games themselves are thrilling and the consequences feel like they have weight and meaning to them. Not to mention it's a beautiful looking film with a brilliant color palette and reasonably strong special effects. I've heard Mockingjay is terrible, but this ending could not have made me more excited for next November.
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choubachou
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I haven't seen THG1. I went to see this mostly to see what the hype was all about. While it is definitely better than Twilight, it's still mostly pre-teen junk. B-
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Algren
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Pre-teen junk gets a "B-"???
That's pre-teen treasure, surely.
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Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:55 pm |
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Libs
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Oh. Yes. Catching Fire is my favorite of the books and they adapted it so well here. It's basically the best possible movie that could have been made from the source material. I loved the first movie but this is even better. Gone is the shakycam of the first and any bumpiness that one really had, plotting-wise. Francis Lawrence takes over with ease as the film expands the series' scope in a confident way. The bigger budget really shows through, from the special effects to the costume designs. Jennifer Lawrence is flat out incredible. I cannot possibly imagine anyone else in the role of Katniss, that's how much she owns here. The adorable Josh Hutcherson is solid once again, while Liam Hemsworth is decent despite limited screen time again (it'll be interesting to see how he does with the rapidly expanded role Gale has in Mockingjay). Everyone else is just great too. Sam Calflin and Jena Malone make for a pretty perfect Finnick and Johanna, respectively (which surprised me, because I disliked Claflin's casting when it was announced). Donald Sutherland is sublimely menacing, Philip Seymour Hoffman lays the groundwork for Plutarch Heavensbee, and Woody Harrelson/Stanley Tucci/Elizabeth Banks are terrific as well. The worst part of it all is wondering how I'm supposed to wait a year for the next one. A
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Algren
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Libs wrote: Jennifer Lawrence is flat out incredible. The adorable Josh Hutcherson is solid once again You don't know what acting is if you thought that was a solid performance. It was wooden. He was simply delivering lines, but with no emotion or care. In fact, also Jennifer Lawrence looked fed up for most of the movie. You love the books, so it's obvious that your brain just overlooks the crap parts and paints them as great. I understand why you'd do this, I've been there before with franchises that I've loved ( The Expendables 2, for example). Eventually, if you're not too stubborn, you'll come to see that it's not such an amazing film.
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Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:22 pm |
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Algren
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Quote: Why should “The Hunger Games” films be so mediocre? In “The Hunger Games: Catching Fire,” faces the size of Macy’s Thanksgiving Parade balloons bob on screen, intoning pathetic dialogue to an earsplitting score. It’s more like “Eyelash Games,” with Effie Trinket (Elizabeth Banks, in Alexander McQueenesque clown suits) batting two sets of black caterpillars. It’s distracting, but it keeps us from listening to her witless banter. Future gladiatrix Katniss Everdeen (Jennifer Lawrence) is back, and evil President Snow (a devilish Donald Sutherland) remains eager to quell any rebellious stirrings. The trouble is “defiant” Katniss has become a populist heroine and her success has given the downtrodden people of the districts “hope.” Snow sends Katniss and Peeta Mellark (Josh Hutcherson) on a reunion tour to distract the starving wretches and keep them from rebelling. It doesn’t work. Snow invokes a 25-year rule, making the past winners of the Hunger Games play all over again. This is called remaking the first movie.Unleash the PG-13 slaughter! In addition to Katniss and Peeta, this game’s players feature tech whiz Beetee (Jeffrey Wright) and Wiress (Amanda Plummer), who repeats the words “tick-tock” so many times I wanted to clock her. Gale Hawthorne (Liam Hemsworth) pops up a few times with little to do, except play kissy-face with Katniss and get flogged. Among the film’s few pleasures are Jena Malone as sassy, ax-wielding Johanna Mason, and the charismatic Sam Clafin as warrior Finnick Odair. New to this sequel are director Francis Lawrence (“Constantine”) and game-maker Plutarch Heavensbee (Philip Seymour Hoffman, slumming). The game this time involves a spinning island, lightning strikes, blood rain, poison fog and baboons. The filmmakers have leading lady Lawrence to thank for any credibility these films havehttp://bostonherald.com/entertainment/m ... mes_sequelAgreed.
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Algren
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Quote: Excessive, over-produced, obscenely over-budgeted and utterly pointless, this second installment in the overrated trilogy of books by Suzanne Collins is nothing more than recycled ideas and stale CGI effects that seemed fresh and exciting the first time around the track but now hobble through the paces with the energy of a plow horse. I was glad to watch the first Hunger Games without the discomfort of one pair of glasses worn over a second, and I didn’t miss a thing. I can live without another flying spear. This time, I saw part two in IMAX, a format that is a great advancement over 3-D but did nothing to improve this movie. I was surprised how much I enjoyed the original idea—a lethal combat in some distant world called Panem that was once America before the capitol was defeated in some unexplained, apocalyptic war. The wreckage was divided into 12 districts. Every year, each district sent one boy and one girl between the ages of 12 and 18, chosen by lottery, to compete in a nationally televised event called The Hunger Games. The purpose: a mass killing spree with only one survivor. The survivor was Jennifer Lawrence, who became a star. O.K., we got the message. Now we get the sequel, in which everything happens all over again. The 74th games are over, and the 16-year-old lovers from District 12—a pretty girl named Katniss (Ms. Lawrence) and an even prettier boy named Peeta (Josh Hutcherson)—are home but not for long. Dispatched on a “victory tour” to launch the 75th Hunger Games, they have no idea they are marked for death by the evil President Snow (Donald Sutherland) and his bloodthirsty game planner Plutarch Heavensbee (Philip Seymour Hoffman). For reasons that are never satisfactorily explained, it’s every man for himself, with no winners. The rest of this interminable yawn drags everyone marching through hell, most of all the audience. Here come the special effects. It rains blood. A poisonous fog rolls in, eating the flesh of anyone it touches. Man-eating monkeys chase the gladiators through the jungles. There are holograms and people bursting into flames. Of course, the indestructible Katniss survives it all and is guaranteed the rest of her life in peace. But the rules are broken every 10 minutes, and nobody knows what will happen next. (There’s a third installment on the way.) If you didn’t see the first movie, you won’t understand anything that’s going on. I saw it, and I still didn’t understand it—except the violence and torture, which were better the first time. This movie is so boring even the villains are no fun. The actors are uniformly awful, but who can blame them with everyone saying lines like “What does it mean?” and “It’s not possible!” that inadvertently describe the film itself. Woody Harrelson is back in a long, blond hippie wig, and the TV master of ceremonies is once again Stanley Tucci in mascara and lipstick, a campy cross between Liberace and one of the trashy Kardashians. Enough is enough. One good thing: The jungle scenes were shot in Hawaii, so at least they all got a paid vacation. http://observer.com/2013/11/up-in-smoke ... ed-rehash/Now this is the review that I agree with the most. One thing that I thought was pathetic in the movie was how the poisonous fog gave them bubbles on the skin, and then water...WATER JUST WASHES IT OFF!!! Kinda' like makeup. 
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BK
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You may not like it but the arguments you're giving are ridiculous when you compare it to the kind of movies you rave about.
Better luck next time.
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Algren
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I'm not giving any arguments. That would imply I'm trying to convince you all to dislike it, which I'm not. I just found a few reviews online that better sum up my feelings on the movie. And it's always good to see a professional critic agree with me.
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