2013 Contenders Discussion
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David
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It can't be so old, though. I doubt they have had the Lone Survivor screenplay online for months.
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Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:54 pm |
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Libs
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Rush kind of seems like it's going to be forgotten other than some tech nods. Maybe a nod for Daniel Bruhl if they're lucky.
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Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:36 pm |
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Algren
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Can't see Daniel Bruhl getting mentioned for any award. He was far too wooden to be noticed. Hemsworth, on the other hand, was great....but he's Chris "Thor" Hemsworth, so he doesn't stand a chance either.
Rush shouldn't get any noms really. It was a good film, but it wasn't cutting edge in terms of technicality or production,.
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Dr. Lecter
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You must be the only person to think that Brühl was wooden in the film.
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Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:23 pm |
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BJ
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Dr. Lecter wrote: You must be the only person to think that Brühl was wooden in the film. Indeed, his performance was pretty awesome.
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Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:04 pm |
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David
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His performance does have a certain mechanical and stern quality, but it is meant to. He is the outwardly cold tactician to Hemsworth's lusty rogue.
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Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:31 pm |
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xiayun
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Saving Mr. Banks premiered at AFI Fest, and Thompson definitely got the strongest words as we already knew. Hanks looks good for a double nomination as well. Then the screenplay and Thomas Newman.
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Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:44 am |
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Algren
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Dr. Lecter wrote: You must be the only person to think that Brühl was wooden in the film. Bruhl is a better actor that his performance in Rush. I'm flabergasted at how easy you all are to praise him. Lauda was a tactician, sure, but he wasn't devoid of emotion. Bruhl played him in too much of a robotic way.
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Dr. Lecter
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Algren wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: You must be the only person to think that Brühl was wooden in the film. Bruhl is a better actor that his performance in Rush. I'm flabergasted at how easy you all are to praise him. Lauda was a tactician, sure, but he wasn't devoid of emotion. Bruhl played him in too much of a robotic way. Hell, Lauda himself is impressed by Brühl playing him. And trust me, this is Lauda, he wouldn't be saying that unless he meant that.
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Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:44 am |
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Algren
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He was impressed by it because it shows him in a good light, not because it shows him how he was. And anyway, a little artistic interpretation wouldn't have hurt Bruhl, you know.
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Heinrich Himmler
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i'm sure niki "ich hab ja nix zu verschenken" lauda was given a pretty amount by the studio to promote the film in interviews. so of course he will only say nice things about it, that little money whore.
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Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:53 am |
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Dr. Lecter
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No that is not true. Lauda said that he didn't like it upon his first viewing because he thought "I couldn't have been that much of an asshole, right?", but during the second showing with his Formula 1 colleagues he saw the reactions of them and came to realize that the thing is closer to truth than he thoguht and he became a huge supporter of the performance by the third time he saw the film. Incase you are wondering, where I am pulling this from - it is from my interview with him. I could provide you with the German text, but I doubt it'll be of much help to you.
That aside, it is definitely the best Brühl has ever been.
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Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:54 am |
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Algren
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Also could be true.
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Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:55 am |
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Algren
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Dr. Lecter wrote: I could provide you with the German text, but I doubt it'll be of much help to you. You've yet to provide me with Kingsley's interview. 
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Dr. Lecter
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Algren wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: I could provide you with the German text, but I doubt it'll be of much help to you. You've yet to provide me with Kingsley's interview.  Fixed
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Algren
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Thanks
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MadGez
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Bruhl nails it as Lauda. He got him spot on.
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Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:21 pm |
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Algren
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MadGez wrote: Bruhl nails it as Lauda. He got him spot on. He acted as though he has a golf club shoved up his anus for the duration of the film.
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O
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Just saw Captain Phillips. Between Gravity, 12 Years A Slave, and Captain Phillips, its one heck of a competitive Oscar year. Those three films are better than anything I can recall seeing in 2012 from that slate of movies.
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Sat Nov 16, 2013 7:10 pm |
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David
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Gravity is completely out of its league.
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Algren
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So, David, what Oscars do you feel All is Lost should win?
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David
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Right now, Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actor, Best Cinematography, and Best Editing.
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Algren
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Awesome. I cannot wait to see it.
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Libs
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American Hustle had its first official screening (with many SAG/Academy members in attendance) last night in L.A. Reaction seems to be a bit all over the place (some word is very enthusiastic, other is more muted) but JLaw is being called the standout in a lot of the word so far. Pete Hammond wrote: Although formal reviews are verboten until early next month, I can say that from my vantage point, Russell, whose last two films Silver Linings Playbook (2012) and The Fighter (2010) were nominated for Best Picture and Director, as well as taking some acting Oscars, has another winner with a film that will have strong appeal particulary in the actors branch and at SAG. I also think, even in this fiercely contested year, Best Picture, Director, Screenplay, Editing and Costume nods could be in the cards along with any number of possibilities for its superb ensemble including lead actor Christian Bale, lead actress Amy Adams, supporting actors Bradley Cooper and Jeremy Renner, and supportng actress Jennifer Lawrence. Especially Jennifer Lawrence. She is simply dazzling as Bale’s wife, a total knockout scene-stealer throughout. If she hadn’t already won last year as Best Actress for Russell’s Silver Linings Playbook, there is no doubt she might be unbeatable here. At 23-years-old and the star of this weekend’s all-time November record breaker, The Hunger Games: Catching Fire, she may well become the front runner anyway to take back-to-back Academy Awards after this performance gets seen. It’s prime Oscar bait. The actors, including voters I spoke to afterwards were clearly blown away. In fact the entire cast, which also includes a terrific unbilled one-scene cameo from Robert De Niro (who was nominated last year for Silver Linings) will certainly figure heavily for the SAG Outstanding Cast of a Motion Picture award. One person connected to the film to whom I spoke said early reaction had been on the mixed side, but I couldn’t detect that at this screening. It was all upbeat. Time will tell. The Wrap wrote: "American Hustle,” the David O. Russell film that has been considered a possible last-minute spoiler in this year’s awards race, was unveiled to Oscar watchers on Sunday in Santa Barbara and in Culver City on the Sony lot, and the initial verdict was … all over the place.
Early reactions on social media talked of a standing ovation for Russell at the Santa Barbara Film Society screening on Sunday afternoon, and of scattered boos at a SAG Nominating Committee screening on the Sony lot that night. I wasn’t in Santa Barbara so I can’t vouch for the ovation, but I was at Sony and certainly didn’t hear any boos.
Instead, the audience responded warmly, with applause that started immediately but died out relatively quickly.
The film doesn’t go down as smoothly as Russell’s last, “Silver Linings Playbook”; it’s odder and more ambitious, the kind of film that deserves contemplation rather than a rush to judgment.
If there was any kind of unanimous verdict, it was that Jennifer Lawrence steals the show as the wife of Bale’s character, a con-man who is forced to help the FBI with a sting that aims to take down mobsters and corrupt politicians.
And talk of Lawrence was the highlight of the post-screening Q&A, when Amy Adams was asked about a showstopping scene in which her character and Lawrence’s character hurl vicious insults at each other, and then end the encounter with a forceful kiss that brought applause from the SAG audience. Gold Derby wrote: n a movie full of con artists, Jennifer Lawrence steals "American Hustle" as a dimwit floozy married to low-class shyster. She could easily pull off an Oscars heist next and do what no other star has ever done: win in a supporting race one year after prevailing in lead. That may seem unlikely if viewed as a demotion for today's hottest screen diva (thank you, "Hunger Games"), but Ingrid Bergman and Gene Hackman both took the step down after reigning in lead. However, there were many years in between their multiple wins. Oscar nominations are also possible for Amy Adams and Christian Bale in lead and Bradley Cooper in supporting – all of them shine in colorful roles rich with psycho-comic complexity. Adams has the best shot at winning. This year the lead actress race is overstuffed with older past champs and voters usually lust after babes, of course, especially ones who are overdue. Adams is Oscarless after four past losses.
"American Hustle" will also be nominated for Best Picture, Director, Original Screenplay and lots of crafts. It could bag hair and makeup, but the big nagging question is: Can it win Best Picture? Yes, if it picks up kudos momentum at the critics' awards. Up till now, it looked like "12 Years a Slave" had those trophies from New York and Los Angeles in the bag, but now "Hustle" offers the journos a fun quirky alternative that has art-house cred thanks to Russell's sainted status among cineastes.
Beware: "Wolf of Wall Street" will pounce on the derby very soon. Screenings start around Dec. 1. At that point will have a better idea of the top Oscar races and we can firm up our predictions, but for now it is safe to say that "American Hustle" lives up to early expectations and it poses a serious threat ahead.
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Dr. Lecter
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From the sound of it, the only reason why Lawrence might not win next year is because she won this year.
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