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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: Gravity
Shit, David is Gunslinger?
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Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:44 pm |
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movies35
Forum General
Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:53 pm Posts: 8627 Location: Syracuse, NY
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 Re: Gravity
Der. 
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Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:52 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: Gravity
I don't keep track of name changes.
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Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:43 pm |
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40404
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 Re: Gravity
Alfonso Cuaron’s Gravity is a blockbuster even before looking at its box-office numbers. It’s big, expansive and exciting like the best summer movies are. Moreso, perhaps its best choice is to let in a mainstream Hollywood side. It’s not a docudrama in space. It’s not pretending to be a gritty, honest depiction of how getting cut off from communication in space would go. Gravity is cinema, art more than science. The goal is emotional resonance with the audience.
Cuaron’s precision is the most perfect of fits for the film. It appears to be made on a frame by frame basis. No time, movement, or line of dialog is wasted. Few films have felt so specifically made for a theatre viewing. The chaos of motion Ryan faces is captured when it’s inescapably in front of you.
Matt is one of the better George Clooney characters I’ve seen. The dire situation around him, adds a vulnerability usually lacking in his “I’m George F*cking Clooney” cool characters. Underneath his jokes is a melancholy, revealed without time spent on further development.
Sandra Bullock’s Ryan is developed as cleanly. One small scene with few words describing her past, tells all that’s needed to. Gravity’s story is more than anything, about surviving and the reasons to. That’s why Cuaron letting the film’s sentimentality breathe, instead of fearing it coming off as cliche, is an essential decision. Gravity is a film in space that feels human and warm. It gets there because of Ryan’s emotion and humanity.
This is surely one of the best films of the 2000s millennium. Cuaron’s precise filmmaking is a masterclass and as an action packed, emotional joyride, it’s a hit. Gravity is great cinema.
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Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:28 am |
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Excel
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Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22188 Location: Places
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Anyone praising Clooneys performance is seeing more to the character than there really was.
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Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:10 pm |
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Chippy
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No. Clooney gave a fantastic performance.
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Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:11 pm |
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Chippy
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Except for the fact that you can see their faces. Which is like... 60% of acting.
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Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:51 pm |
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Libs
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48677 Location: Arlington, VA
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Magnus wrote: you hardly see their faces. and even when you do, it's usually a secondary visual of the shot as you're focused on everything else but their face. Sandra Bullock is out of her space suit for a significant portion of the movie. I don't understand basically calling it a voiceover performance. It was a very physical one too.
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Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:38 pm |
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Excel
Superfreak
Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22188 Location: Places
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Bullock is obviously a live action performance.
Clooney though...not even close.
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Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:41 pm |
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MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:28 pm Posts: 10266 Location: Mordor, Middle Earth
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Magnus wrote: you hardly see their faces. and even when you do, it's usually a secondary visual of the shot as you're focused on everything else but their face. I very much disagree with this statement. For Sandra Bullock, her performance was ALL about her face. Her face spoke volumes in this movie, and told us much more than the dialogue ever did. Often in the movie the camera zooms in up close to her face and stays there - we are meant to see exactly what she is going through. The key is that we see it, we aren't just told it. I love that about this movie. Peace, Michael
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Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:45 pm |
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FILMO
The Original
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:19 am Posts: 9808 Location: Suisse
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Man .....Sandra Bullock has aged 
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Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:05 am |
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Bradley Witherberry
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Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 15197 Location: Planet Xatar
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FILMO wrote: Man .....Sandra Bullock has aged  Do you mean since Speed 20 years ago? Personally, I thought she looked older in The Blind Side 5 years ago. Still, for a 49 year old women she looks pretty darn good even in all that harsh space lighting... 
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Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:51 am |
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Chippy
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Physically, yes.
Emotionally, no.
But again, you're just trying to troll.
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Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:49 am |
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Chippy
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Magnus wrote: nah the lack of emotional connection I have with the filmpeople is not trolling.
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Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:02 am |
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BJ
Killing With Kindness
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:57 pm Posts: 25035 Location: Anchorage,Alaska
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BJs Grade:
A/A-
Excellent, but i want too see it in IMAX3D before I give my final verdict.
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Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:18 pm |
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Rev
Romosexual!
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32596 Location: the last free city
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A+ Amazing! Intense! Sad! Space is a bitch!
Saw it in regular 3D theater.....must see it in IMAX 3D
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Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:35 pm |
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Inny Binny
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Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:24 pm Posts: 564 Location: New Zealand
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magnus is right. the film tries so hard to give an emotional connection with its childhood monologues and dead babies, but it all adds up to nothing.
looks good tho.
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snack
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Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 9:18 pm Posts: 12159
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did not like this one. thought i would.
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Tue Oct 15, 2013 12:26 am |
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Heinrich Himmler
Cream of the Crop
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 5:17 pm Posts: 2716 Location: Berlin, Germania
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hi snack, did you like man of steel?
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Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:43 am |
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choubachou
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 1796
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Inny Binny wrote: magnus is right. the film tries so hard to give an emotional connection with its childhood monologues and dead babies, but it all adds up to nothing.
looks good tho.
B (70) My thoughts exactly.
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Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:16 pm |
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choubachou
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 1796
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Bradley Witherberry wrote: FILMO wrote: Man .....Sandra Bullock has aged  Do you mean since Speed 20 years ago? Personally, I thought she looked older in The Blind Side 5 years ago. Still, for a 49 year old women she looks pretty darn good even in all that harsh space lighting...  Pretty sure it was in her contract that their had to be scenes where she's in underwear.
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 25288 Location: Classified
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I think he's referring to the astounding technical achievement being lost in the lack of emotional connection argument. Which is a fair point. The cinematography in this movie will last through the years. And a lot of the great sci-fi pics are very cold. The problem is that Gravity tries so hard to make you connect with Bullock that the dialogue is sometimes cringeworthy.
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:49 am |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: Gravity
It's not empty.
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:22 pm |
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MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:28 pm Posts: 10266 Location: Mordor, Middle Earth
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***Warning - Significant Spoilers***
I can't stop thinking about this movie, and I cannot wait to see it again.
When we first come across Ryan Stone, she looks empty and disengaged - not present, mentally elsewhere. She feels sick, she's out of her element (she isn't an experienced astronaut), and yet we also get the sense that she has chosen to be here for a reason - a place where she can easily disengage and remain disconnected from the world (literally and figuratively). She says that what she likes about space is "the silence". Soon enough, however, we are thrown into an unrelenting chaos, and suddenly Ryan can no longer be complacent in her withdrawal from life -- she has to make the decision to stay alive or not.
Later we find out that there is a reason for Ryan's disconnectedness. A few reviews have noted that this backstory of Sandra Bullock's character is unnecessary. I think it's actually crucial to the narrative -- it's imperative that we believe Ryan may not have the will to live and to survive, so that her decision each time to keep going on when she is in trouble is meaningful, and so that we have a cathartic pay off at the end of the film.
The simplicity of her daughter's school accident works to create a situation that is understandable as well as interchangeable -- to make clear that all of our lives are affected by these kinds of mundane accidents, that it could happen to any of us, and that we all have to ultimately make a decision to keep on living. The characters are vessels in which we place our ourselves, our own experiences and obstacles.
The film was very moving for me - not only because of Ryan Stone and Bullock's penetrating performance, but because of the film itself, the narrative. Our senses are overwhelmed with chaos, obstacle after obstacle in space, fear and constant motion and dark emptiness. When Ryan finally makes it back to Earth, we hear the distinct chirping of the insects and the sound of the breeze - noises we take for granted but which are not present in the silence of space. Ryan crawls up onto the beach and feels the sand which looks and feels so rich and organic - we've forgotten what it is like to be anchored onto solid land, still, and alive. In contrast to the aimless drifting and weightlessness of space, she gets up and takes her first determined steps forward to begin a new life, truly alive again.
The word to describe this film for me is life affirming. The depiction of space as huge and beautiful, but also awesome and terrifying, made me me feel small and vulnerable. Yet Ryan's journey of perseverance in the midst of chaos made me feel empowered. By the end of it, there is a sense of catharsis, and I feel that I can accomplish and overcome anything. I was moved and I just remember leaving the theatre feeling like I had just witnessed something so amazing, and that I had to tell everyone, as this felt not like a movie, but an experience.
Everything about this movie from a technical standpoint was meticulous and extremely well done. While reviews highlight the technical achievements of the film, I don't think they quite appreciate how much these achievements aren't merely technical but artistic as well - used in the service of creating an experience, one that is moving and immersive and imaginative. The score is phenomenal, and the way it is used is kind of amazing, essentially as the sound for the film, as space does not carry sound, and instead of explosion noises, we hear sonic booms and musical accents that create an incredible atmosphere. The music, as well as the cinematography and the visual artistry, the way the camera immerses us in the large emptiness of space and the tight claustrophobia of space stations, all drive the narrative of the film and help to create what was a terrifying, moving, and immersive film experience for me -- I think the most incredible movie theatre experience of my lifetime.
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:16 pm |
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Brian
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Agree with some of you, the film is being overrated, I was expecting a lot more, but ultimately it did not impress me at all, still a good film without a doubt.
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