Sounds like someone has a Stallone type curse on David?

Go back and re-read my posts. I don't think I am being one-sided, especially as I am being attacked by both sides.

Sorry but you have been especially with all the words you have written you have not explained your position on Zimmerman, attacking him unfairly without details, proof and facts. See the bold above.

I'm not quite sure what you mean, but I just respect David a lot. He produces quality original content for this forum, unlike some people that just pretty much post crap.

That's fine as I was just teasing.

The thing is that its not only crazy right wing extremist that thought Zimmerman was not guilty.

Many rational minded folks, centrist and liberals thought he was as well.

I for one am very liberal, and even still I agreed with the outcome of the trial. We live in a society ruled liberally by the law, one is innocent until proven guilty, and by those accords, Zimmerman is in no way shape or form guilty.

Sorry if I haven't made my stance more clear, as a lot of people are attributing things to me that I did not say.

OK Darth but you did say this. So can you explain what you meant? Zimmermans past history doesn't support that. And Zimmerman was just doing his job protecting the crime ridden community from possible criminal behavior. And I bet Zimmerman would have following a white kid dressed and acting the same way. Plus Zimmerman, even after the long year long wait and the trial, still plays the hero, by saving the family from a car fire.

I mean, you cannot assume he would acting in the same accord if it were a white person and state it as fact. It's an assumption. That being said, yes, there is very little to no evidence that Zimmerman is racist. So you cannot make the call either way. Do I assume prejudice was involved? I do. However, I also think Zimmerman has been painted unfairly by the media and is not some evil, twisted racist. This trial has been a showcase of just how maniupaltive the media can be on a society.

To me, this is more of an issue with guns and the Stand Your Ground Law than race.

Well i am good now as at least you downgraded from your no one would disagree stance. But you yourself are still guessing or assuming that he was prejudice? Anyway IMO I still think the opposite, that he was just a good guy trying to do a good job and protecting the community from a possible criminal. Especially since in his call, he didn't say that there was a black guy doing something. He said that there was a guy acting weird and looking into houses.

If anyone has the time, I highly recommend this article. It focuses mainly on Fruitvale Station, but it touches on this subject and race in general.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/950 ... von-martin

Whatever.

20 pages of this????

RECORD BREAKING THREAD

Sorry but the Zimmerman situation was a real life story with a fair trial attached, instead of one that adds Hollywood extras.

Please leave the fantasy in movies and non fiction out in the streets.

I never thought I would type this, but Manny ultimately hit the nail on the head many a page ago. If you consider this case from an objective legal perspective as best you can, the result is spot-on, particularly considering the many grievous errors committed by the prosecution, including the ostentatious, media friendly decision to charge him with second-degree murder rather than simply manslaughter. If you let assumptions, fantasies, and melodramatic visions into the equation--Zimmerman as gun toting racist archetype, African martyr Martin as angelic innocent with only dreams of fruity candies dancing in his head, a general racial anger or national hatred, etc.--everything goes sideways and pulpy, but then what you say is of no real value, as exhibited by the foul Barrabás.

Based off of! thank You

And why more tragic as it ruined 2 people's lives and families plus all the rigors and protests nationwide

Agree with what you say, as the facts of the case show that manslaughter would have been non guilty also.

Careful barry, your ignorance is showing.

Where? Try making a valid point with details for once!

here's how you shoot a suspicious person in a professional way, zimmerman should take a look:

Um. No, that is NOT how you shoot a suspicious person. Also, what's with police officers having to have backup upon backup upon backup for ONE person.

Next, we have a guy with a knife in a streetcar and he's Alone apparently. This cop apparently isn't aware of the potential of him being suicidal or wanting to be suicide by police. Has the person never heard of what a Taser is. He's so bad this cop that has to fire THREE shots first. Can you aim? Can you hit his feet or leg with One bullet.

This is case of excessive force if ever.

Ooof. I dunno about that big fella. People injected race into this mess during the whole process and beyond the fact the police refused to investigate further due to the outcry that they ignored initially the whole race angle is moot to the actual turn of events. Zimmerman saw a lad in a hoddie and thought he looked dodgy. nothing to do with race that's a pure class snobbery thing, the whole zimmerman being a racist is silly comic style nonsense. Zimmerman followed him and the Martin lad was spooked and ran. If the prosecution is to be believed and indeed the verdict Martin then became seriously pissed off and confronted Zimmerman. he proceeded to the kick the crap out of him and then Zimmerman decided to shoot him. now i really cannot emphasis this enough for you american readers. you profile a lad and he then turns on you and throws you a few punches and slams your head on the floor this does not suddenly give you the right to kill him. lord knows i have seen plenty a fight on my time. punches are throw the raw anger drips and then then it subsides. at no point have i ever seen somebody whip out a gun and shoot somebody. You know why? because that would be bloody insane lunacy. Oh he threw some violence my way he must die!

The actual verdict by the laws in the state of florida? yea Zimmerman should and was acquitted. But the default nuclear mindset that allowed it? No. some lad who is walking home and then let anger about being followed get the best of him should not mean he dies. That's utter lunacy.

Oh and yea David In your defense that barrabas lad is an absolute gobshite.

Yep.

except, they are still deciding if there is enough evidence for a civil rights trial, plus the upcoming civil trial. On another note, Zimmerman got stopped by the cops for speeding with a legal loaded gun in the glove compartment. and the nice cop let him go with a warning, for the speeding, not the legal gun.

Just because you have a legal gun in one state, does not mean it is legal in another.