lol no one claimed about the civilian deaths during TA lolz...

Superman did not cause the death ZOD did.

If he did not destroy the terra forming device that would have killed the world.

Also Nolan is saying Superman would not have killed Zod.
In the end Superman killing Zod was a huge step as he killed of his own kind.

Batman saving Joker in the end had no higher purpose then just being good for the sake of good.

These would be my three points on that:

1. It's not like Superman didn't try to save people. That's why he gets his ass handed so many times in the Kansas fight. It's got a lot of great dynamics because first he's fighting people with the same strength. Then he is also trying to save the many different people who are being attacked, and he is also always being attacked by the military which he can't do anything about.

2. Metropolis for most purposes was evacuated before the fight. There's a dam "I'm going to kill everyone" message the night before. I think many would take the day off, or bosses would cancel work on a day like that. We also don't know the time frame. We're not sure how long Superman was unconscious, or how long for him to get his powers back. We assume its within an hour because on film it was an hour of film. Could have been days. Finally as I said earlier, when a news station is evacuated, every other building has already been evacuated. They would always be the last to leave.

3. He did the same thing in the original Superman II, and those buildings were filled. I'm sure if Zod picked up a bus and threw it at him, or starting throwing cars at people, Superman would have tried to save them. But luckily the city was basically evacuated at this point. It was Godzilla time for them, or GodZodda!

My only complaint is there should have been more than punching followed by shockwaves. Zod couldn't fly, couldn't use his heat vision. That should have been addressed more as Zod starts having fun with the amount of different kinds of destruction he can do. That would have made for a very fun fight.

1. Bane is able to create a nuclear bomb thanks to Bruce developing the reactor, equip his army with all Wayne Enterprise weapons and vehicles, hold NYC hostage, killing much much more than Superman ever could, and Batman gets a statue.

2. The Avengers fighting amongst themselves gives Loki the chance to release a monster army on NYC, destroy and kill thousands, and they are cheered. Plus it's easier to save more people when you have 7 other god like superheroes helping you.

3. Superman makes himself known to the world and turns himself in to avoid the extinction of the human race. Stops the destruction of Earth, and stops this threat from ever returning. What an asshole.

I don't think in real life any of these events would be truly cheered. In the end, MOS is JorEl's fault for sending Superman there in the first place.

Batman and the Avengers are not Superman.

Great post!

Superman is superior.

This film's action scenes though made me realize that a Batman/Superman fight in Justice League with the same approach will pretty much be the greatest action movie scene ever created.

Yeah, Batman would die within a second.

Lol, this is such bullshit.

To you, apparently.

I have seen and enjoyed it as the mindless action spectacle it aims to be. I think there is no point in talking about its failure to be anything but that; I actually expected it to be worse. But it works, though perhaps they should leave out the dialoge altogether next time.

6/10.

This was my first 3D experience, by the way.

I'm sorry

lol JL avengers.

Aliens attack

Few mins battle over by Superman and GL and other God like powers.

Batman still scaling the wall

Damn this is so frustrating. The movie has some great moments, but overall it just isn't a great movie IMO.

I thought while the first half was weak and a drag I liked the scenes with Costner and Crowe. No doubt it's because both are such fantastic actors and the fact they are able to playoff and elevate any material given to them. Lane was good too.

As for the rest of the cast I really liked Cavill. He makes Supes very likeable and sympathetic although I wasn't buying his chemistry with Lois for one bit. Way too forced and while I am aware that Amy Adams is a good actress their bond/connection just wasn't there.

I think the biggest problems with this movie are pacing and editing. The middle is really slow and I have to admit I was getting pretty bored with the flashback scenes after a while. Sometimes it felt like it slowed down the movie completely even if the scenes are actually well acted themselves, I honestly didn't care that much.

Then we get to the villains which also disappointed me a bit. Michael Shannon is a great actor, but he gives a very middling performance here. Zod wasn't nearly as threating or intimidating as I was hoping and even most of his dialogue/line delivery came off really dry or was flat out bad. It was just a weak performance overall and I was surprised at how much more threatening Antje Traue as Faora was in comparison.

I was wishing she would become the main villain instead of Zod, but then I realized there was no way that was going to happen. Too bad because her action scenes towards the end are great.

Speaking of the last half hour or so yes there is some cool stuff going on and the visuals/scope is spectacular, but it also feels like one HUGE video game cut scene which is ok for a superhero movie of this caliber I guess, but seriously there is only so much fake green screen and CGI destruction the mind can take and yes I know that sounds strange.

Anyways, nowhere close to being IM1 good or even Batman Begins good, but I still have hope for the sequel(s).

I can't wait for when they adapt Death of Superman. Just think of the destruction

I just...

other than JJ ABRAMS jaw dropping first draft, I struggle to envision a better superman film.

Yeahhhhh....the whole popular criticism on the collateral damage is kinda bullshit. Like I was expecting Superman to throw buses into crowds where Zod was located, but you all and your bitching has left me disappointed. I wanted controversy, and it wasn't there. This kinda was the same Superman who cares about humans to a fault as he has always been. You guys made me think it was going to be a Spartan-esque gives no shits kinda Superman.

So yeah, I saw the movie, it was alright. The opening bit on Krypton....kinda sucked. Not gonna lie. Thought I was going to hate this movie. But it managed to save itself throughout the course of the movie and become a decent sci-fi pic.

B

This would be a super awesome adaptation, and people shitting for how Superman killed Zod, some humans and made ashes half of Metropolis wont be anything compared to the destruction on DoS

Only Alan Moore realizes the world would shit itself in the presence of a being such as Superman.

More editing screw ups. When they filmed Clark riding the bike, there were "Support Metropolis Reconstruction" signs hung up. Clark secretly helped lift some crazy object.

Well the military went from shooting at him to trying to spy on him. Just like with the Muslims. That is progress right?

Society would freak out but they would somewhat settle down if they see that the enemy (Zod) has been killed and that alien is self sacraficing character that is actually here to protect us.


It would be scary but I do not think whole world would go beserk.

I would go berserk.

Meloni does! That's an extremely pivotal moment, and Lois does by not printing the story after learning from him. Lois represents humanity, and Meloni represents the government, military, etc. And the Priest represents religion. We don't need hundreds of people staring in awe like in Returns. It's been done. There doesn't need to be a fucking guy sweeping up the street and Superman comes over to help at the end. We can assume a good amount of time has come back and the city has been fixed. When you look at the ending of movies where many people have died or a lot of destruction (ID4, Transformers, etc) no one talks about the aftermath and the death. That would be a very weird downer of a way to end the film. The film ends on a high note of Superman is no longer a loner, he is there to defend humanity, and embrace being a part of it. The point of the general scene at the end is that despite what he's done, he's not accepted yet. There will always be people that don't trust him because of the power he holds.

We don't need the city mayor openly thanking Superman for saving the world. Personally in this day and age of mass media, they need to keep Superman out of the public eye. He should be less a hero to the world and more of a myth. That leaves room for an interesting point in the sequel about a mass investigation into what Superman does when he's not saving the world.