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 Man of Steel 

Rate this film.
A 34%  34%  [ 15 ]
B 30%  30%  [ 13 ]
C 16%  16%  [ 7 ]
D 11%  11%  [ 5 ]
F 9%  9%  [ 4 ]
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Pretty much on Krypton,on Earth, and in the sky was perfect. :)

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Pretty much on Krypton,on Earth, and in the sky was perfect. :)


You forgot the opening studio logos. Were those also perfect? ;)


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Krypton, Smallville, Superman vs. Zod, YOU ARE NOT ALONE!, shot of Clark on fire, casually opening the door for the trapped oil rigmen, etc etc. "GO Lois...". Clark's delivery of pretty much all his lines.

Lots of perfection in this film.

Do you secretly hate Superman and are trying to get people do join your side by acting irrationally over-the-top in praising it?

It wasn't my favorite film but I don't hate it and I hope it makes tons of money. However, attitudes like this make me want to hate it.


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Oh, c'mon. God knows I'm not a big fan of the flick, but excel's just having fun.


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Oh, c'mon. God knows I'm not a big fan of the flick, but excel's just having fun.

Maybe I am just turning into a grouchy bastard the closer and closer I get to 30.


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So I took my ten year-old siblings to see this. When I asked them how they felt on the way out, one replied, "I didn't like how so many people died. There was too much destruction." The other agreed, "Yeah, it got boring."

These aren't kids with an agenda. They have no idea who excel is, let alone his fanaticism with the movie. They just found the action scenes to be exhausting, and I can't blame them. Zod vs. Superman may be an aesthetically impressive scene, but after forty five minutes of destruction it's just too much. Superman's utter disregard for the safety of the people around him didn't just feel false, it actively undermined the 'tough decision' that forces him to kill Zod.

Otherwise, it's fine. The movie looks every bit as good as 225 million buys, and as someone with relatively little attachment to the Superman origins I thought this reboot accomplished what it set out to do. The ending just baffled me though. A clear example of filmmakers being more interested in spectacle than the story, as even just a small beat could have established either that the city had been evacuated or that Superman was attempting and failing to take the battle out of downtown Metropolis.

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Yeah exactly, the action scenes became exhausting and they all looked the same after a while.

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I honestly think some of you guys whining about collateral damage must have downs.

Zod was attacking Earth. He said he was.

Superman was trying to stop him. Meaning...if superman flew into space, Zod would not have followed him. Zod would have taken advantage of the defenseless planet.

Superman's destruction was for the greater good of r earth.

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While I do agree the action scenes get redundant....lets not pretend that most action blockbusters suffer from the same fate. The problem mostly IMO is that Man of Steel chose to keep the action almost all in one place instead of spreading it out throughout the film, so it feels even more redundant.


Well, yes. There is a crap load of exposition. But at the same time, it works fine. The action here gets no more redundant than in BATMAN BEGINS.

I cant believe some thing WB's decision to double the action and erase the campiness is a bad thing in some folks eyes. Sighs. Some of you just want a modern remake of the Reeve films.

Man of steel is the most original superhero film in a long time. There is nothing 'superhery' about it,

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I honestly think some of you guys whining about collateral damage must have downs.


Nope, we just don't turn our brains off.

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Zod was attacking Earth. He said he was.


No, he wasn't. Zod decided to terraform Earth (for no particular reason; if he'd chosen another planet Kal-El might have helped him). Superman destroyed the laser drill/kraken and then he destroyed Zod's ship. All hope of ever bringing Krypton back is gone. Zod then vows that the only thing left for him to do is kill Superman.

Zod doesn't give a shit about Metropolis or hurting people. He just wants to kill Kal-El.

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Superman was trying to stop him. Meaning...if superman flew into space, Zod would not have followed him. Zod would have taken advantage of the defenseless planet.


Again, no. And it's not like Zod's motivation is in doubt, as he pulls a David Goyer and clearly explains his thinking.

Excel wrote:
The action here gets no more redundant than in BATMAN BEGINS.


This, I'm sorry, is total fanboy bullshit.

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I cant believe some thing WB's decision to double the action and erase the campiness is a bad thing in some folks eyes.


It's a dude in a red cape flying around punching bad guys. There's always going to be a certain level of campiness.

I get easily bored by mindless action. I don't like TRANSFORMERS for that reason. Reeve's Superman was likable enough for me to stick with it. Routh's Superman was interesting enough for me to stick with it. Cavill's Superman is a blank slate. He's stern, and that's the extent of his characterization. I'm given no reason to care as they waste an hour throwing punches.


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Zod says he will kill every human on earth....

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Zod says he will kill every human on earth....


Zod very clearly says after his ship crashes that all he has to live for is killing Superman, no?

I don't care if Zod said "I will ignore you, Kal-El, and kill every man, woman, and child on this planet"; Superman still should have tried instead of killing thousands of people himself.

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I care more about Cavills Superman than Rouths, who basically gets upset that after ditching his girl she got married to some other dude. Cavill is a Superman trying to find his place in the universe and make sense of his existence. The film doesn't dive as full into this character psyche as it could/should but this Superman is much more interesting than Rouths.


Quick -- tell me a character trait of Cavill's Superman.


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Also, Cavills Superman twists a dudes neck and kills him. Character traits aside, that automatically makes him better than Rouths.

This :thumbsup:

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Also, Cavills Superman twists a dudes neck and kills him. Character traits aside, that automatically makes him better than Rouths.


Routh's Superman launches a continent into space. That's way cooler than doing something Steven Seagal can pull off in a DTV flick. :)

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If you want more, he's self-confident (dude has no doubt in his abilities), lonely (duh), and pessimistic (towards trusting humans).


Cavill isn't pessimistic, his father was. Everything he decides to do is based on his father's beliefs, not his own.


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Excel wrote:
I cant believe some thing WB's decision to double the action and erase the campiness is a bad thing in some folks eyes. Sighs. Some of you just want a modern remake of the Reeve films.

Man of steel is the most original superhero film in a long time. There is nothing 'superhery' about it,


Well, I for one do think that MoS is quite better than SR.

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Magnus wrote:
Also, Cavills Superman twists a dudes neck and kills him. Character traits aside, that automatically makes him better than Rouths.


Routh's Superman launches a continent into space. That's way cooler than doing something Steven Seagal can pull off in a DTV flick. :)

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If you want more, he's self-confident (dude has no doubt in his abilities), lonely (duh), and pessimistic (towards trusting humans).


Cavill isn't pessimistic, his father was. Everything he decides to do is based on his father's beliefs, not his own.


Oh look at me I can toss big rocks to space. *yawn*.

Also, Cavills Superman is pessimistic, just not as much as his father. He freaking waits until the entire Earth is under threat o reveal himself, and even then tells the humans he's going to do things his way on his terms. He's not really cooperative.

I'm loving it, you're on a roll Magnus. Cavills Superman is so much better than Rouths its not even really comparable. His basic fuck you to the U.S. gov was pure gold.

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Yeah, silly U.S. government trying to track the alien responsible for tens of thousands of deaths!

When Lex Luther shows up in MAN OF STEEL 2 blaming Superman for the city's destruction, I'm going to be on Lex's side.


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Yeah, silly U.S. government trying to track the alien responsible for tens of thousands of deaths!

When Lex Luther shows up in MAN OF STEEL 2 blaming Superman for the city's destruction, I'm going to be on Lex's side.

Superman snapped the neck of the alien responsible for tens of thousands of deaths. Though if the film actually had a well polished script they would have showed Superman put a bit more effort into fighting outside the city naturally.

I really hope they don't use Lex in the next film, he's been the main villain to many times.

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When Lex Luther shows up in MAN OF STEEL 2 blaming Superman for the city's destruction, I'm going to be on Lex's side.


I would LOVE for them to make Lex a more likable and justified villain and have his campaign against Superman actually be legitimate and not just, "I wanna make a billion dollars!"

Superman in this universe shouldn't be unequivocally loved and trusted by the public. That's the point.

That would be tolerable, Lex lets get rich 1001 would be such a boring movie.

Indeed, agreed, I think he will grow into a Superman closer to the comic in the coming films. I don't think he will resort to killing again.

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lex = joker
Brainiac = dent
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Yeah, Lex is more of the Harvey Dent and less of the Joker, despite being almost as iconic as the latter.

But you have to have him. He is Superman's Joker. His antithesis. He is often times boring, but in the animated series he is actually one of the more rather interesting villains. And in the sequel if they go the anti-villain route, it could lead to the sequel to being the classic this one tried so hard to be.

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I've skipped through this entire thread for fear of spoilers. I wanna see it today though, and I got two questions. 1) Is the 3D worth it/not horrible? The lighting seems pretty dark as is. 2) Is there anything after the credits?


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Nothing after the credits. And the 3D didn't add much of anything, but it doesn't make it unwatchable.

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Also... humorless?

The bar scene was very funny, imo.

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Does he shoot peanuts at bottles with his fingers.

I still haven't seen it yet, hopefully today!

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No, he impales a trucker's rig with a telephone pole.

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