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A. G.
Draughty
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:23 am Posts: 13347
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 Who would you rather make a decision like this for you?
If you were on life support and the decision was being made whether to pull the plug. Would you rather a spouse make that decision, or your parents?
Whether or not you can recover is not important to this mental exercise, and neither is whether you'd want to die or not, it is simply about who you would trust to weigh the options and make the best decision.
And if you are not married - most of us are not - just imagine for a moment that you are.
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:19 pm |
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bABA
Commander and Chef
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i dont want my plug to be pulled .. as much as i might be screaming at that moment for it to be done.
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:22 pm |
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MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
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I know right away that I'd rather my spouse make the decision. But of course, that's my personal case. Most people think family/blood relation is the most important group of people in their life, and would probably rather their parents to make the decision. Although I could be wrong.
Interesting question.
PEACE, Mike 
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:23 pm |
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A. G.
Draughty
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:23 am Posts: 13347
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Actually I think most people would tend to say spouse, because generally people have an overly romanticized vision of marriage.
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:33 pm |
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matatonio
Teh Mexican
Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:56 pm Posts: 26066 Location: In good ol' Mexico
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Well, if not married well of course my parent, but while married my spouse would like to make that decision, but that could cost some problem with my family, so its really a hard choice to make
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:37 pm |
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MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
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Archie Gates wrote: Actually I think most people would tend to say spouse, because generally people have an overly romanticized vision of marriage.
But if you are already married, then that is not in the equation. Also, if you're not married, you're likely young (although that's not always the case, so don't get me wrong) and more attached to your parents.
I think above all it really just depends what kind of relationship you have with your parents. Some grow up and are taught to be incredibly close with their parents, some are the opposite. And then again, your relationship with your spouse. If it's a distant, very closed relationship, or a healthy, loving relationship.
PEACE, Mike 
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:42 pm |
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Rev
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32581 Location: the last free city
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 Re: Who would you rather make a decision like this for you?
Archie Gates wrote: If you were on life support and the decision was being made whether to pull the plug. Would you rather a spouse make that decision, or your parents?
Whether or not you can recover is not important to this mental exercise, and neither is whether you'd want to die or not, it is simply about who you would trust to weigh the options and make the best decision.
And if you are not married - most of us are not - just imagine for a moment that you are.
My Wife
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:53 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
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No one, unless, I tell them before that to do it incase I am on life support. Which I will do.
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:58 pm |
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bABA
Commander and Chef
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Sorry. Just to add to that. I did mention I never want that decision made. I was wrong. If taking me off life support or whatever can potentially save the life of another person who may require the equipment and I'm pretty much a gone case, then umm ... I dont want people to think twice. I want them to take me off. The decision is to be made by whosoever is aware of my feelings on these thigns.
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:05 pm |
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MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
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Dr. Lecter wrote: No one, unless, I tell them before that to do it incase I am on life support. Which I will do. Quote: Whether or not you can recover is not important to this mental exercise, and neither is whether you'd want to die or not, it is simply about who you would trust to weigh the options and make the best decision.
PEACE, Mike 
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:08 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
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bABA wrote: The decision is to be made by whosoever is aware of my feelings on these thigns.
Agree on that.
And I wuld want to pull the plug in any case. Being on life support with no chance of ever waking up is worse than death. Much worse.
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:09 pm |
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dolcevita
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:24 pm Posts: 16061 Location: The Damage Control Table
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This question have anything to do with Terri going federal?
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:12 pm |
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Michael.
No Wire Tampons!
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since i dont have a spouse - Parents
No but really; i think my mother knows whats best for me in that respect, she made me, and its her desicion if she wanted to end my life which i no longer had control over.
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:24 pm |
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TonyMontana
Undisputed WoKJ DVD King
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Should I be worried that my spouse practices this all the time? She's always pulling cords out, looking at me, and saying "that could be you some day" with a big smile.
Anyhow, I guess I'll let her make the decision. 
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:12 pm |
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Maverikk
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Let me tell you something , guys, it's the toughest decision you would ever have to make in your life. I had to make the decision for my brother. It's something he and I had talked about , and we were both on the same page if the situation ever came up. I wasn't expecting it to come up as soon as it did. It's something that you should let somebody know your feelings on, because you never know when it could come up. My uncle (who's a year younger than I am) knows , that if the situation ever comes up with me, it's in his hands. I trust him to do what's right, but I can't even describe what it feels like to be the one who has to make that choice.
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:20 pm |
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dolcevita
Extraordinary
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Whoever is closest. I don't think this has to do with glorifying marriage, I think that when people live together, they tend to be the closest due to daily conversations etc. If anyone is married here (pr seriously dating for years, etc) and can tell me that they feel closer to their parents, and that their parents are more in touch with your up-to-date philosophy, than yeah, parents should do it. Otherwise I anticipate most people saying their significant other. I would probably. It could be none of the above though, since right now I'm closest to my siblings, and there is a good chance that if I left that decision with someone, it would be my twin sister.
Really, I wouldn't want to leave it with anyone, because it must be terrible on their part. I'd rather just say 2 years is the limit, from the date I first go on life-support. That way no one has to make the decision and feel responsible.
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 9:49 pm |
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Eagle
Site Owner
Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:09 pm Posts: 14631 Location: Pittsburgh
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Spouse no doubt
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:02 pm |
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The parents. They ALWAYS look out for your best interests, while the spouse, at some point, might look out for her interests first.
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:16 pm |
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neo_wolf
Extraordinary
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I wouldnt want to die of starvation like this the woman who had her tubed removed.Thats a cruel thing to do.Infact,if im ever a vegetable i wouldnt give anybody permition to pull my plug.
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:47 am |
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MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
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Krem wrote: The parents. They ALWAYS look out for your best interests, while the spouse, at some point, might look out for her interests first.
That's totally untrue. Not all parents always look out for their son/daughter's best interest. Unfortunately we don't live in a happy, magical fairy land where ALL parents are good to their children and ALWAYS look out for their best interests. And if a spouse truly loves their husband/wife, they will look out for their lovers best interests. I'm sorry, but it's not as cut and paste as you say it is.
PEACE, Mike 
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Jeff
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I think in the end the decision made today was the right one. While generally I am in favor of life, I believe in some cases people have a right to die with dignity. Schiavo has been kept alive for over a decade now, and she is obviously not going to recover. Once the brain has been in a vegetative state for a long period of time it cannot recover. I think that the excessive government intervention is wrong, and I am saddened that our governement would interfere in the lives of private citizens to this extent. Mr. Schiavo is obviously not in it for the money, as he has steadily kept up his fight and spent a great deal on lawyers/legal council. I just think that Mrs. Schiavo should be allowed to die. It sounds horrible, but that is how I feel.
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 2:35 am |
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MikeQ. wrote: Krem wrote: The parents. They ALWAYS look out for your best interests, while the spouse, at some point, might look out for her interests first. That's totally untrue. Not all parents always look out for their son/daughter's best interest. Unfortunately we don't live in a happy, magical fairy land where ALL parents are good to their children and ALWAYS look out for their best interests. And if a spouse truly loves their husband/wife, they will look out for their lovers best interests. I'm sorry, but it's not as cut and paste as you say it is. PEACE, Mike 
And not all spouses love their signioficant others either. In the end, I'd trust the parents to look out for my interests more than I would trust my spouse. To simplify my point, 50% of births don't end up in adoptions.
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 3:26 am |
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Appy
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I would want the plug pulled weither is husband or my folks they better pull the damn plug.
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 4:03 am |
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xXVincentxX
La Bella Vito
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I would want my family to pull the plug. Not my father. I would prefer my mother make the decision. I don't know if I could ever trust my spouse enough to let them make that decision.
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 4:22 am |
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Jeff
Christian's #1 Fan
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If you are married though, you have to give them that trust. The trust that they will do what is best for you. It is part of your vows.
Sorry, maybe I'm a helpless romantic.
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