Thanks JackAss for finally posting a comment instead of just being a punk with your usual comments from above.

No one should be given the death penalty. It's barbaric and hypocritical.

Goldie , please refrain from acting like that ever again at the forums. :???:

Mav - are you a MOD? Get back to me when you become one.

Anyway, I wish you would catch earlier when others say inappropiate things. Duh, like the second post in the thread - If he said something to defend the point, then I would have been fine with it. But he has to act like his normal self. Once a punk, always a punk.

So then I would care or be impressed with what you say.

Yeah but I'm one. For the future, there are plenty of lovely requests such as "please explain yourself" which do the job dramatically better than "jackass" or "punk" do.

Goldie, are you a MOD? Keep your mouth shut to other members until you become one.

I know that Rod is one of the most respected members of our community, and has been for years, and I know you've been banned TWICE from here, and have displayed stalker like behavior to members of this site, so I suggest you learn to back off.

I agree with you somewhat, because what good does it do to take a life for taking a life?

Actually in many cases it is cheaper to allow prisoners to die in prison then to sentance them to death row.

(I know I shouldn't get involved in this...)

=D> =D> =D>

Also most criminological studies show that the death penalty is not a deterrent to crime. So i don't know why it's being practiced still?

Anyway, back on topic. Did they really have any conclusive evidence in the Mike Tyson rape conviction? I can't remember if they did or not, but all of his money (and all of Don King's) could get him aquitted.

OK, Mav, now I know your opinion is worth as much horseshit down on the farm.

His replies are right in front of your clueless face and that is your reply. And you wonder why I never put any faith in your comments - I will stand up for you, blah, blah, blah.

Whatever, Mr Two Face - Too bad Batman already had used that criminal.

OK, Madame MOD.

Actually, I believe horseshit is sold as fertilizer, so my opinion is worth less, but thanks for upping the ante on them.

Speaking of clueless, who was the person in this thread that decided to give some credibility to your comments first?

Martha being convicted was a joke, though, a joke. In the wake of Enron who the hell do we see sent to prison, martha bloody Stewart. Yeah, I feel better now.

The Kobe trail was one in which no one cared at all to protect the rights of hte victim, ehr name was released to the public on something like 6 occasions...that was botched in so many ways.

I actually watched parts of the OJ trail, and his lack of conviction has as much to do with the climate at the time as it has to do with a poor case by the prosecution. Just very unconvincing, and I thought the man was guilty.

Celebrities have the luxury of being well known, adn that means some people will damn to guilty whiel otehrs will damn thtme to be innocent, what they do have above John Doe is access to alot of money. Blake blew through millions of dollars to win his innocence, and money is much more effective then anything else at getting a perosn off.

This isn't just about money. Look, if I was sitting on a jury, and someone presented me with a bloody size 7 shoes that was insisted as being part of the crime. Then the defense demonstrates how the accused is a size 11, I'd have reasonable doubt of his guilt. Now, where money does come in is that putting down a good buck will provide attorneys that catch these things and emphasize them. The people who get accused on less information (and we are implying don't have money) are skrewed because they don't have lawyers good enough, and attentive enough to detail to prove the shoe didn't fit. That's it. I agree that money, millions, will probably procur a team of attorneys that is smart enough to plant doubt left and right, but that doubt is there, so until then the jury needs to consider the man not guilty. The problem with the judiacial system, as many people have already stated, is that many people are convicted on less substantial evidence and with less public attention. That's something we need to resolve in the judicial system. Putting someone behind bars when lawyers have provided evidence that the shoe didn't fit, isn't going to help the system at all. It'll just be incriminating even more people on questionable evidence.

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P.S. : (And I haven't really followed these trials closely so I hope I don't get any facts wrong)

Kobe: I believe they reached an AGREEMENT out of court. You know...an agreements, that would mean both parties and their legal teams decided that's what they wanted.

Robert Blake/Michael Jackson. From what I hear the "witnesses" were/are completely unreliable. Can't get their stories together/to make sense. That's the kind of "evidence" you use to convict someone of such a serious crime as the ones both are accused of??

Peterson: Unlike other "normal" people....he had access to jsut as good of a defense as Blake and Jackson and Kobe. (in fact weren't 3 of the four at one point represented by the same lawyer or something like that?) So you can't really say their celebrity status has much to do with that. You can't jsut say whener a celebrity and a non celebrity get different outcomes in their trials...OBVIOUSLY it had to be because of their status when you don't know any of the facts being presented....


Their status could also hurt them. Let's face it, even before the trial Michael Jackson's image wasn't the best. I said a few months ago, when the whole thing started that if he was guilty he should go to jail and stay there for a long time. I, like anyone on this board, and most everybody else, don't know all the facts...but I still firlmly believe if Michael Jackson weren't who he is, if he wasn't such an easy target, if he wasn't disliked by certain people....this trial wouldn't be happening.


Final Question: Since Martha Stewart went to jail, if Michael Jackson is found innocent do his accusers go to jail for lying? If we want celebrities and everyone else to be treated equally under the law...it would only be fair....right?

Christ, I think if there's anyone shocked by this, it's me since I can't believe they blew the fuck out of this trial when Blake clearly had gun residue on his hands after it happened.. :laugh: Hell, I bet O.J Called him up afterwards and congratulated him.. And I'll bet Michael Jackson's probably eyeing Blake's Lawyer to to get him out of the clusterfuck mess he's in to.. :laugh: