Lol I actually liked the TF style action near the end.

Really silences his action critics.

I agree biggest flaw in the film is the twist at the end.

It really does not do much or add anything and makes Bane lose his image.

I feel like I've been through the whole thread. Is there any reasoning as why Bruce is cripple? I had this assumption that there would be some sort of flashback as to what happened (I figured he had dealt with Bane earlier)

My bad, I thought I remembered you saying you were from France.

I can only assume because of his lack of cartilage in his knees. Hence the doctor scene?

About the comments that Nolan pulled off an Inception style ending...

Um I think the way things were explained it appears he is alive.

Also I think if Nolan wanted to created an Inception kind of ending for TDKR, it simply would not work and would be rathed silly of him.


The reason is people love Batman and want him to live so even if signs showed it was a dream or something, people will simply believe he is alive. It was not like Inception, I have 100% belief that Batman is alive...


Also The Talia plot twist sucks..

It took away from Bane..
His whole backstory, how he was born in hell and being special for escaping the pit, being too crazy for the league of shawdos, coming to Gotham to take revenge on everyone.

Just made Bane weak weak weak weak weak after...

The action in Transformers is mostly awful.

I really liked to see him cry. It humanizes him.

Nah

wanted him to stay God Like...

Talia becoming evil was just not very good.

She was like "ha ha ha, I don't care, you all die ha ha ha... "

It's from the fall at the end of The Dark Knight. He's clearly limping when he's running from the cops at the end.

also it could be that he was being lazy and tired sitting at home all day

Um. Why? It doesn't seem likely to me that the scene of him being alive isn't real.

The Morgan Freeman finds out about autopilot scene = Bruce is alive. There's no question about it

I was thinking about something today. It would have been cool if there was some reference to the Joker in this movie. Like Bane or Talia explaining to Bruce that "the man wearing make-up" wasn't part of the League of Shadows's plan, but they were interested to see how close to chaos he would bring Gotham.

Christopher Nolan said he specifically didn't reference the Joker out of respect to Heath Ledger.

Yeah. The Joker presumably would've been unleashed into the city with everyone else when Bane and co. broke all the prisoners out in this one. I think it's just a plot "hole" you are supposed to overlook, and for good reason.

Personally, I think that had Ledger been alive, this probably would have just been a very different film. I think Nolan just would have done a lot of things differently. He certainly would have played a large part (if not the main villain one).

Considering the Joker carried TDK he would have played a big part in TDKR and likley would have driven up hype even more.

I know that now. Like I said in an earlier post I didn't really hear what Fox said about the auto-pilot
due to the sound going out some at my theater during this part. I thought there was no auto-pilot.

Well, ignoring Fox finding out about the auto-pilot, who exactly do you think gave Gordon a brand new bat-signal?

...then why was Gordon shocked to see it?

You probably misread my post. I also don't think he would have been the main villain, but I also do think his role would have been substantial.

The majority of the movie is really good but Bane really just drops out in the end of no consequence and Talia's reveal and escape was awful.

Sure, Bane was never going to match the Joker, but the inclusion of Talia being the mastermind and him just being a musclehead like the rest of them invalidates his entire character. Not to mention, he doesn't really act and doesn't leave any impression. That's at least a step up from Talia who has to be one of the most poorly written characters/villains. No inclination of a fancy in Bruce and then they sleep together. There's never any flicker of deviousness or evil or anything. I get "twist" endings, but this seemed like a twist for the sake of. It added nothing. Even then, she didn't even mortally wound Batman. It was the whole shlock villain YET AGAIN that we see in superhero movies, adult thrillers and spy movies (or all blockbusters). The whole thing was an endeavour in pointlessness. Very disappointing.

What was great however, was excellent. Joseph Gordon Levitt, for me, stole the show. Impressive performance throughout in the continually twisting challenges he was facing. Anne Hathaway was also great as Catwoman giving the film some much needed wit and bite. I personally also liked Christian Bale's subtlety but he was overshadowed by the other two.

Some are debating between the hero shift in this movie and the villainous one in TDK. I don't think it's impossible to mesh the two together. TDK feels a more complete movie. Batman being challenged mentally is much more interesting than being challenged physically. Bane seemed to have more dimensions a la the Joker when he first appeared at the stadium but then became a shadow. Two Face completely demolishes Talia and Bane put together.

The Batman survives ending seems a little forced as well.

Sue me, but on the first viewing it's my least favourite superhero movie of the summer.

The shot with the Batman statue at the end was awesome.

But saying that about Bane is like saying that in the Star Wars universe, Darth Vader is just one of the Emperor's pawns like all the others.

Bane isn't just anybody in this movie. Talia and Bane have some sort of twisted love story, or a twisted big brother-little sister story. I don't see how that invalidates his character.