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devon28flick
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Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:35 pm Posts: 309 Location: Sunnyside Daycare
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 Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Saw this at my Cinemark theater at Midnight.! The movie was awesome and I really want to see it again to take all of it in.!
Anne stole te show to me every scene she was in she commanded it, I also thought Bane was a better villain than Joker, only because he was more of a threat to Batman.!
I still think the Avengers is a better movie.!
Overall I give TDKR an. A-/B+
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publicenemy#1
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 19373 Location: San Diego
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I'm seeing it again tomorrow night, hope I like it more. Before leaving for the midnight premiere I got about half an hour into rewatching Dark Knight, I wish I managed to finish it.
Thinking about it more I still have problems with the story but I think a second viewing will be enjoyable.
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:25 am |
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OncomingStorm
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Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:33 pm Posts: 19
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Just came back from my second viewing, and I liked it a lot more tonight than last night. I did the marathon yesterday, so I couldn't fairly judge the film on it's own merits. Being in the theater for 6 hours before the movie started didn't make me the best viewer. But tonight I was refreshed and focused, and thought it was a better product. I gave it a B yesterday, I think it's a B+/A- now.
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:40 am |
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Michael A
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Magnus wrote: Actually, it's really not awesome. That's perhaps its biggest flaw (among some other minor flaw). But it is a great film.
Oh, and Christopher Nolan hates America. anyone who doesn't hate america, at least a little, is a fool. Nolan thinks its a corrupt place deserving saving, but yeah pretty much sucks. Do you really disagree Magnus?
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Jiffy
Forum General
Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:27 pm Posts: 6152 Location: New York
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Michael A wrote: Magnus wrote: Actually, it's really not awesome. That's perhaps its biggest flaw (among some other minor flaw). But it is a great film.
Oh, and Christopher Nolan hates America. anyone who doesn't hate america, at least a little, is a fool. Nolan thinks its a corrupt place deserving saving, but yeah pretty much sucks. Do you really disagree Magnus? Do you have a newsletter to which I may subscribe?
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:42 am |
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 21230 Location: Massachusetts
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Good news, bad news.
Good: The movie is pretty damn good, if a little clunky. Rank: TDK, BB, TDKR
Bad: The theater I was in had warped speakers so AT LEAST half of Bane's dialog was unintelligible, especially his big speech at the beginning of the third act calling everyone to arms. I was pretty much left to assume that they would join him for whatever reason. It was like watching a movie in a funnel.
Good: Everyone got free passes. I somehow got six
I need to see it again (on a bigger screen, with bigger sound, and in IMAX, so probably two more times) because I'm not sure if I caught every character's motivation (and for Bane alone). I'm not sure if it was because of the sound or how Nolan blended the stories together, but nothing seemed to flow together. As of right now I thought it was very entertaining, but easily the least of the series. It's still very good though.
**** (A-)
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:17 am |
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David
Pure Phase
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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I found Bane hard to understand at times with good speakers.  He's LOUD, but there's still a certain muffled quality. Though I understood his speech atop the Tumbler. It was the scene where he's in the prison with the injured Bruce where I truly struggled.
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:19 am |
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choubachou
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 1796
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David wrote: I don't remember anyone doubting Hardy... I very much do. People kept saying that it was ridiculous that Nolan chose an actor shorter than Christian Bale to play Bane. Other people, who were trying to prove that Hardy can pull it off, used pictures of him in Bronson, indeed.
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:09 am |
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thompsoncory
Rachel McAdams Fan
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:13 am Posts: 14605 Location: LA / NYC
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This movie was fucking flawless. I literally was shaking when I left the theater. Absolutely mind-blowing with fantastic performances. And the last hour is absolutely insane.
Anne Hathaway was fantastic and easily my favorite character. I don't understand how someone could think she was underused. She is a huge part of the film and totally shined. From the second her character made that quick transition at Wayne Manor and then jumped out the window I was completely onboard with her character. And her fight scene at the bar was one of the best parts of the movie other than the final hour. I had the biggest grin on my face when she beat up all the thugs and then started pretending to be the victim. I actually leaned over to a friend of mine and was like "I absolutely love her in this" after that scene. I cheered when she showed up at the climax. Tom Hardy was terrifying in this movie, which says a lot considering the mask covers his face for 99% of the film. He's able to convey so much with his eyes and body language. The first fight scene between him and Batman was so scary and brutal. Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Christian Bale and especially a heartbreaking Michael Caine were all AMAZING. Marion Cotillard was also great as was the rest of the cast.
This is such a huge crowdpleaser that I can't see it having bad legs. Audiences were going crazy for it at my showing. Also the ending was amazing.
I can't get over how much I adored this movie. I was literally in awe at some of the things they were able to accomplish. And so many cheered at the ending, which is one of the most satisfying in recent memory.
I need to see this again. It's my favorite film of the year so far.
A+
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:46 am |
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choubachou
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 1796
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thompsoncory wrote: This is such a huge crowdpleaser that I can't see it having bad legs. Audiences were going crazy for it at my showing. Also the ending was amazing. Yeah, I think the whole thing with John Blake/Robin getting into the Bat-cave will have a lot of people talking about the movie after seeing it.
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thompsoncory
Rachel McAdams Fan
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:13 am Posts: 14605 Location: LA / NYC
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When that happened as well as the Bruce/Selina reveal the entire audience cheered and burst into applause.
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:53 pm |
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Excel
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Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22182 Location: Places
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def. better 2nd time than first.
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:08 pm |
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The Dark Shape
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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Yeah, I'm shocked. Thanks to various friends I've seen the film three times, and it actually holds up and gets a little better each time.
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:47 pm |
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snack
Extraordinary
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 9:18 pm Posts: 12159
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No, you don't have any friends.
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:59 pm |
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The Dark Shape
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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throbbing snack wrote: No, you don't have any friends. They're still friends if I pay them, right? RIGHT?
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:12 pm |
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snack
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Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 9:18 pm Posts: 12159
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Magnus wrote: throbbing snack wrote: No, you don't have any friends. stop talking to yourself outloud. whatever magnus I have 3+ friends now so shut up
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:24 pm |
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Excel
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One thing I really liked is how much swag Bane had. Big, slow, powerful strides. The way he walks, stands with his hands on his vest all relaxed, etc. Badass. I think that, kind of like TDK...knowing what I knew going into it took away from the experience primarily because it seems like a lot of could have been done better. Catwoman, Fox, and Blake all got the right amount of development. But the rest didn't. There is a lot that I think feels underdeveloped -I expected the "occupy gotham" thing to have a greater impact. The idea of a leader literally taking over a city and performing a revolution in modern times is very orginal. Bane as a Fidel Castro type character. However, despite the cool origins and moments, its not really developed. I expected there to be this aura of Bane ala Bin Laden or Castro that is never really developed. There is a montage during Banes speech of the things he is doing, but it would have been soo much better to see it unfold first hand. I thought the financial stuff would be more in depth as well. Again, when the pics of Bane at the stock exchange first came out, I had these grand ideas about Nolan coming up with this genius plan, and in a sense he did. The clean-slate program is different and interesting. But again, it all feels under developed. Its not really hammered home just how big of idealists Bane and Talia are. I thought Batman's first return would be far more rousing/badass than it was. The shots of the millions of police cars chasing him won his bike was cool, and seemed to be setting up some epic scene. Instead, he just flew away? And the police apparently cant track his plane (back to Wayne manor)? I just thought it was kind of weak. I was expecting the cops to be preventing Batman from getting to Bane, instead Batman just watches Bane go by him. I thought there was a lot of potential in this area of the film was wasted. I thought the prison scenes would be a bit longer, and his struggle a bit more obvious. Him making the leap was col, but didnt feel as impactful as I expected. They tell you about the personal growth and whatever, but its never truly executed to Nolans potential. I expected the return of him in the end to be better. The idea of the Batman logo being burned into the bridge for everyone to see sounded cool, because now that they knew the truth about Dent, they may view Batman as the hero they need. The sound of Bane's "impossible" scene or whatever sounded cool. Instead it was all kind of silly. The trailers hinted at the idea of Batman becoming this urban legend; the idea of him returning to defeat...I thought it would be this epic, rousing moment of motivation for the city, kind of like in the film TROY when Achilles first fights, and it just pumps everybody else up, lifts their spirits, etc - thats what I was expecting. It kind of happens in the battle, when the bat flies over the crowd and it excites them, but even that seemed weak. I read a - now fake - fan description of the scenes towards the end, which said it play out as follows: Quote: Bruce Wayne via selina kyle communicates to blake that the men need to bereadied for an all out assault on city hall. The night before, however, Bane and his men raid the house, taking Gordon and a few others to court to face the ice. Juno Temples character squealed to bane in exchange to be one of the ones let off the island. Gordon is to go first. Blake & many cops are on the banks, watching too. Suddenly the lights go out. Banes men panic in the darkness. A black blur comes from nowhere, and takes them all out. Gordon watches as the figure stops. Blake watches with great interest. A flare is flipped towards him; he lights it - reveals Batman. The cops watching are pumped as gordon light the gasoline, revealing an enormous Batman logo across the brooklyn bridge. Bane, raging from his penthouse apartment, declares "that cannot be!". Selina, at home pondering what exactly she should do, sees it on the news. as do many others. The batman is back.
Batman meets with Gordon and blake, very batman beginsish. gordon is find the bomb, blake is to evacuate the island. The battle is to begin on Batmans signal.
The next day, the cops march down Grand Avenue and approach city hall. Bane and his men await them. Bane barks over a loudspeaker that they face imminent death if they do not back off. Gordons old partner, who is leading the revolt, nervously urges they continue to walk forward. One man remarks that the Batman may not show, and they are screwed. But they press on. Bane readies the tumblrs in front of the and one of them raises a cannon. It fires, and blows up a car about 40 feet infront of the men. The men press on, fearless, at the partners urging. Bane and his men sense this, and the overwhelming number of men is clearly intimidating to them.
the cannon fires again, mere feet away from the crowd. Gordon partner whispers "any time now..." as the cannon readies to fire again, when out of nowhere it EXPLODES - the Bat has blown it up with a long range missile! The tumblr crashes down ina firey mess right on the steps of city hall, knocking bane and every one else of their feet. The bat ROARS over the crowd, Bane - on his back - barely getting a glimpse of it thundering through the smoke.
With that, the men cheer wildly and break into a dead sprint towards city hall. Despite the # advantage, the league is so well trained that at first, they are winning anyway. Its even at best. Bane can feel his power slipping, and begins to rage, mercilessly beating whoever is in his sight.
Batman swoops overhead, batarangs, armors wrist clips, and smoke balls being deployed fro his suit to aide the troops. Bane walks into in a clearing in the middle of the fight, Batman lands gracefully before him, 30 yards away, ready, hungry, and angry. The fight ensues. i think that sounds a lot cooler than the way it ended playing out. For all as awesome as it was, it was kind of disappointing just because it seemed like they came up with a very original and amazing story, but it still under developed. Its a huge story which has so much social commentary to give, but in "just" 2 1/2 hours, some of it feels a bit under developed. TBH, I nevvver thought I would say this, but this movie feels like it should have been two greater developed movies. Movie 1 should be through Bane breaking Batmans back, Movie 2 from there on outwards through the end. Give Alfred more time, give Miranda more time, give Bane more time. More time in the prison, etc etc.
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:36 pm |
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Chippy
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Sounds like all your problems were caused by... you.
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:44 pm |
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Excel
Superfreak
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Chippy wrote: Sounds like all your problems were caused by... you. Well no shit, its personal preference.  I know im not the only who came away with the feeling that "this a great movie with an even better one somewhere within it".
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:53 pm |
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choubachou
Indiana Jones IV
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Excel, that happened to me with LotR: RotK. I was really disappointed that it wasn't like I had imagined.
Months later, when I bought it on DVD and the hype had settled, I really liked it. I finally started to appreciate it for what it was, not consistently comparing it to what I had in mind.
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:27 pm |
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David
Pure Phase
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Apologies in advance for cynical sequel comment: I wonder if there's any chance we'll see Joseph Gordon-Levitt's character in another film. The line has always been they'll reboot Batman in a couple years, and this Batman will be the one in a Justice League movie with Henry Cavill's Superman, etc. But couldn't they just use Gordon-Levitt? I s'pose this, in establishing a shared universe, would raise the question of why Superman didn't save Gotham in five seconds during Batman's reign. But they could always just explain he was away longline fishing in Gloucester.
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:35 pm |
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nghtvsn
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Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:13 pm Posts: 11016 Location: Warren Theatre Oklahoma
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choubachou wrote: thompsoncory wrote: This is such a huge crowdpleaser that I can't see it having bad legs. Audiences were going crazy for it at my showing. Also the ending was amazing. Yeah, I think the whole thing with John Blake/Robin getting into the Bat-cave will have a lot of people talking about the movie after seeing it. I was curious about this particular end if anyone knows and I enjoyed it alot as well. I'm just wondering that since Nolan is done doing Batman films why introduce a "Robin" in this Batman world he made. Were/are there already some form of plan to use JGL as a Darkwing/Nightwing character?
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Caius
A very honest-hearted fellow
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Couple of questions: 1) How did Bruce Wayne die? Perhaps I missed it, but do we assume he simply died during the siege of the city? Yes, I know he really is alive, but why does everyone else think he is dead besides the fact that he is obviously absent? 2) I had forgot about Talia being in this and thought something was amiss with the editing towards the end. Commissioner Gordon and Talia are captured and presented to Scarecrow for trial and Bane calls Talia away. Next scene Talia is with Fox when Bruce Wayne comes back to Wayne Corp. in cuffs (Catwoman then frees him). Just seemed strange at the time but fits with the later reveal. Of course, maybe I am misremembering. 3) Does anyone think there are any scenes that will stand out like from The Dark Knight? For example, the below, I think, is the best scene in the entire trilogy (Joker's trick, bank heist, Batman's wrong choice, Joker Card, Tumbler in Begins, and Batman as viewed through Fear Toxin are all good) :  Plane hijacking with Littlefinger, in my view, was the most memorable. I liked a lot of scenes and liked the film, but nothing stands out on an individual level.
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:48 pm |
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David
Pure Phase
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My favorite "moment" in this film is the gate crashing down in the sewers and Batman turning to see Bane in the distance.
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:50 pm |
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nghtvsn
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Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:13 pm Posts: 11016 Location: Warren Theatre Oklahoma
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I do like Excel's idea of this movie being split into 2 parts. It would have given more time to the occupation and development of Talia's character. Plus, I really thought the first Act up to Bane defeating Batman and leaving him in that prison was superb.
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