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Nebs
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 Bride of Frankenstein
Bride of Frankenstein Quote: Bride of Frankenstein (advertised as The Bride of Frankenstein) is a 1935 American horror film, the first sequel to Frankenstein (1931). Bride of Frankenstein was directed by James Whale and stars Boris Karloff as The Monster, Elsa Lanchester in the dual role of his mate and Mary Shelley, Colin Clive as Henry Frankenstein and Ernest Thesiger as Doctor Septimus Pretorius.
The film follows on immediately from the events of the earlier film, and is rooted in a subplot of the original Mary Shelley novel, Frankenstein (1818). In the film, a chastened Henry Frankenstein abandons his plans to create life, only to be tempted and finally coerced by the Monster, encouraged by Henry's old mentor Dr. Pretorius, into constructing a mate for him.
Preparation began shortly after the first film premiered, but script problems delayed the project. Principal photography started in January 1935, with creative personnel from the original returning in front of and behind the camera. Bride of Frankenstein was released to critical and popular acclaim, although it encountered difficulties with some state and national censorship boards. Since its release the film's reputation has grown, and it is hailed as Whale's masterpiece. Modern film scholars, noting Whale's homosexuality and that of others involved in the production, have found a gay sensibility in the film, although a number of Whale's associates have dismissed the idea.
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trixster
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I didn't find it as iconic or memorable as the original - having Karloff speak was definitely a mistake - but still a classic, atmospheric horror.
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Thegun
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Without a doubt or debate, the best sequel ever made for the first 70 years of cinema, the very framework of building on everything the original created, and hitting every mark. it's funny, horrific, and tragic. Karloff really takes the dark brooding monster of the original and turns him into one of the most tragic characters ever to appear on screen. This is how the Frankenstein monster should be remembered and James Whale will always remain in high regard for this and the equally matched original.
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Oh the golden age of horror, and a time when Universal Studios was relevant and a defining force in the industry.
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Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:33 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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I actually agree with... Thegun!
Just watched both back to back. Both equally as iconic and memorable. But I give the edge to Bride for building off the original.
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Groucho
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I've always enjoyed Bride much better.
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Bradley Witherberry
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Bride is great, but so is Frankenstein - - they're both groundbreaking.
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Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:43 pm |
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_axiom
The Wall
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:50 am Posts: 16163 Location: Croatia
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***1/2 / ***** (B-)
It's a good classic. There are some gaping plot holes, but it's obviously more about visual / atmosphere / ideas than the story.
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Thegun
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21889 Location: Walking around somewhere
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 Re: Bride of Frankenstein
Almost every film of this era will have holes, especially in the horror genre. 75 minutes is considered long for this period. You literally had days to shoot films back then, you just have to except that they just cut to next pivotal scenes without much explanation. Check out other films of the period and you will definitely see the major leaps these movies made in storytelling.
Check out Son of Frankenstein. It's Karloff's last portrayal, and Bela plays Ygor. A lot of it is very much the inspiration for Young Frankenstein.
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_axiom
The Wall
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:50 am Posts: 16163 Location: Croatia
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I was mostly iffed about the old blind guy in the forest who doesn't have any contact with the world yet he has everything in his cabin - meat, firewood, water, flint, etc. Continuity holes (which is what you talk about I think) don't need to be holes per se if there's a possibility you can (successfully) fill out those blanks by yourself.
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Thegun
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21889 Location: Walking around somewhere
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Really? Why can't a blind hermit in the woods have those things? That's definitely not a hole I was referring to. Someone like that could easily obtain those.
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_axiom
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Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:50 am Posts: 16163 Location: Croatia
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Thegun wrote: Really? Why can't a blind hermit in the woods have those things? That's definitely not a hole I was referring to. Someone like that could easily obtain those. He said he hasn't seen a human being for years which would limit what he has. I doubt he as a blind man could raise crops, make flour, make vine from grapes he grew, hunt for meat, get oil for candles, nicely chop wood, heck how did he have enough cigars for years? Makes 0 sense. Even today with all the technology blind people need help. It wasn't that long ago that blind people were heavily reliant on others.
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Thegun
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21889 Location: Walking around somewhere
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Wow, I'm sorry but that is just wrong. There are plenty of disabled people that can live completely independent of other people, and were able to do so long before technology Are there ones that do need help? Of course. But many are not useless, and can do things probably even better than you can. I know a guy with no arms who is a master archer.
And not to do the old joke but, of course a blind man wouldn't have seen another human being for years.
I can't think of a single reason why the things you just mentioned couldn't be done by the blind hermit. I mean come on. If you said disable a bomb, I'd be there right with you, but not being able to set up a system for catching food and watering plants, squishing grapes and rolling a cigar as impossible for a blind man to do, you lost me.
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_axiom
The Wall
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:50 am Posts: 16163 Location: Croatia
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You read a bit too much into the blind part. I would've been irked if it was a regular old dude. It seemed like he had it a little too good of a life for someone who lived alone in the forest in a time when scarcity was a way of live rather than the outcome of certain aspects (oldness, blindness, being secluded, danger of bandits...).
I'm well aware that blind people can do a lot, I never said they couldn't. But if blindness wasn't a disability then it wouldn't be just that. So let's not all get holy and educated when the pure fact is that blind people do need help. Some need more, some need less but there are certain things they need to be helped with. And a long long time ago they most certainly needed a lot more help than they do today.
And I get that the concept is pretty intriguing within the movie - Frankenstein stumbling upon one person who doesn't immediately judge him based on his looks, but accepts him and befriends him - in turn showing Frankenstein is able to understand and feel which makes Frankenstein a really good character in turn. But it seems like nobody ever thought of old man's background. They could've make him say that he just didn't feel welcome in town and went there only in need for supplies. It would make it pretty much a bulletproof story.
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Thegun
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21889 Location: Walking around somewhere
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Lol, just assume he said it off camera, as for the wood, blame the prop department for wanting a more aesthetically pleasing set.
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