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Mannyisthebest
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 Re: Gladiator A film that shows the glory and ugliness of the Roman Empire at its zenith.
A very well made Sword and Sandle Epic and it saddens me that more films like these are not made.
I like historical epics and some of the biggest and best films of all time are such films.
However this film suffers from having weak secondary characters however the battles and fighting are great.
Did anyone notice when Emperor Commodus came into Rome it was almost like when Hitler was coming into Berlin in a Triumph of the Will. Very strange!!!!
However, the way history was butchered in this film appalls me.
-Marcus Aurelius wanted to bring back the Republic!!! HAH!!!
-Senator Gracchus was never a senator and he existed over 200 years before.
-Why are given this idea that the Roman Empire returned to greatness after Commodus. After Commodus, the Roman Empire went in a long decline and faced a crisis for like almost 90 years and would have collapsed if it were not for Diocletan and Constantine.
-Roman Cavalry charging Germanic tribes!!! Roman Cavalry was Rome's weak point.
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BJ
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Re: Gladiator BJs Grade:
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overrated fo sho.
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Mannyisthebest
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Re: Gladiator ^B+ means you still loved it...
or it does in my view.
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BJ
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Re: Gladiator Mannyisthebest wrote: ^B+ means you still loved it...
or it does in my view. oh its good. but it s not great, ROTK is better and that film is at times very boring. _________________The Force Awakens
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Mannyisthebest
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Re: Gladiator Actually even though I find it a B+, it still deserve to win BP.
The other films were just blah...
* Chocolat
* Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
* Erin Brockovich
* Traffic
easily weaker then the Year Crash and Chicago won.
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BJ
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Re: Gladiator Mannyisthebest wrote: Actually even though I find it a B+, it still deserve to win BP.
The other films were just blah...
* Chocolat
* Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
* Erin Brockovich
* Traffic
easily weaker then the Year Crash and Chicago won. ouch, your right, 2000 was terrible. Brockovich = boring, Traffic = retarded, Chocolate = unwatchable, CTHD no better than gladiator. _________________The Force Awakens
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Jim Halpert
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Re: Gladiator Gladiator is top 50 all time
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Re: Gladiator Love this movie
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Box
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Re: Gladiator Gladiator is a piece of shit. It's offensively stupid. Worse than 300, in fact.
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Re: Gladiator Mannyisthebest wrote: Actually even though I find it a B+, it still deserve to win BP.
The other films were just blah...
* Chocolat
* Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
* Erin Brockovich
* Traffic
easily weaker then the Year Crash and Chicago won. Traffic was far better than Gladiator... Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon was certainly not just Blah BJ wrote: ouch, your right, 2000 was terrible. Brockovich = boring, Traffic = retarded, Chocolate = unwatchable, CTHD no better than gladiator. Gladiator has something Oscar can't ignore; mega-big buzz (GG winner) The only awful pick for year 2000 was Chocolat.. just completely out of the blue.. should be Almost Famous or You Can Count On Me instead... _________________
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Re: Gladiator Box wrote: Gladiator is a piece of shit. It's offensively stupid. Worse than 300, in fact. you're offensively stupid. HA!
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BJ
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Re: Gladiator JURiNG wrote: Mannyisthebest wrote: Actually even though I find it a B+, it still deserve to win BP.
The other films were just blah...
* Chocolat
* Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
* Erin Brockovich
* Traffic
easily weaker then the Year Crash and Chicago won. Traffic was far better than Gladiator... Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon was certainly not just Blah BJ wrote: ouch, your right, 2000 was terrible. Brockovich = boring, Traffic = retarded, Chocolate = unwatchable, CTHD no better than gladiator. Gladiator has something Oscar can't ignore; mega-big buzz (GG winner) The only awful pick for year 2000 was Chocolat.. just completely out of the blue.. should be Almost Famous or You Can Count On Me instead... no BP nom is worse than traffic. _________________The Force Awakens
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Mannyisthebest
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Re: Gladiator Chicago was the worst pick in recent memory.
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Re: Gladiator I remember initially back in the days there was a lot of hostility towards this film.
Today, people truly appreciate it for being the only great epic historical drama of this decade.
It really is the only great one this decade and will live long in cinema as the historical epic's of the 50's and 60's like Ben Hur.
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Re: Gladiator I don't like it much, but, to be fair, I haven't seen it in about ten years. And all I remember is that Joaquin Phoenix was really evil.
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Re: Gladiator Mandeep wrote: I remember initially back in the days there was a lot of hostility towards this film.
Today, people truly appreciate it for being the only great epic historical drama of this decade.
It really is the only great one this decade and will live long in cinema as the historical epic's of the 50's and 60's like Ben Hur.  That's the funniest post I've read in ages!
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Re: Gladiator Magnus wrote: Darth Indiana Bond wrote: I thought it was more educational in its themes, that to be loved comes not to the seeker, but to the seeked. Oh, its themes are great. The idea of one man changing an entire empire is a classic theme and its executed beautifully here. But to me, the violence of the film really shows a lot because I think the film shows the violent nature of men in battle as well as the desire of men to see violence. In many other swords-and-sandals films, those who are in battle are seen as the violent monsters but Gladiator I feel does a twist and kind of makes you feel that the crowd is the real monster. oh dear gawd. _________________Mr. R wrote: Malcolm wrote: You seem to think threatening violence against people is perfectly okay because you feel offended by their words, so that's kind of telling in itself. Exactly. If they don't know how to behave, and feel OK offending others, they get their ass kicked, so they'll think next time before opening their rotten mouths.
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David
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Re: Gladiator I fucking love this movie. I don't even give a shit. Michael A can come at it all, "The film is simply entertainment for entertainment's sake. Ridley Scott can choose a tie in the morning, but he knoweth not what the tie meaneth." But it doesn't matter. Russell Crowe, built and growling and intense and in perfect form. Joaquin Phoenix lunging from shadows, being evil and crushing on his sister. Richard Harris as the ailing grand emperor. Everyone in the cast is just devouring the scenery and having a blast and digging into their roles. And there's beautiful cinematography and production design galore. Gladiator is perfect entertainment. Classic.
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Re: Gladiator That sounds nothing like Michael A.
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David
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Re: Gladiator It does to me. Though, I admit, it was partly inspired by Ignatiy Vishnevetsky.
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Re: Gladiator Gunslinger wrote: It does to me. Though, I admit, it was partly inspired by Ignatiy Vishnevetsky. I mean, I don't like the movie, but I can respect your opinion. To me all the over-shot, melodramatic, hyperbolized filming is obnoxious and silly, but I can see how its beautiful and entertaining. However magnus' claims of "deep meaning" and "brilliant themes" in the movie, that I cannot agree with. _________________Mr. R wrote: Malcolm wrote: You seem to think threatening violence against people is perfectly okay because you feel offended by their words, so that's kind of telling in itself. Exactly. If they don't know how to behave, and feel OK offending others, they get their ass kicked, so they'll think next time before opening their rotten mouths.
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Mannyisthebest
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Re: Gladiator Well wow 5 years latter the hate for this film has finally subsided online
The film has creeped up the IMDB 250 and there is no doubt about it..
After 13 years and looking at the genre that is historical epics, there is not a shadow of a doubt that is the finest Historical epic of the Modern era and is now a classic film.
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Re: Gladiator This instantly became my favorite film when I saw it the first time, probably became my most watched film and I saw it again last night. It's just a masterpiece that's never going to let me go I think. Love the film, a great spectacle and amazing score. So quotable too.
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Re: Gladiator Gladiator is an impressive production but lacks relatable and interesting characters to invest you in the story. Largely left me cold.
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Re: Gladiator One of the best big budget films ever made. Crowe and Phoenix are perfect.
The runner ups for both roles were Mel Gibson and Jude Law. Both would have been perfection.
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