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Jedi Master Carr
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The Dark Shape wrote: Barrabás wrote: Apparently the film is really bad...could this affect grosses? LOLwha? Please tell me you're talking about test screenings. Those always make me laugh. Terrible Potter films according to test screening reactions from uber-fans: Goblet of Fire, Order of the Phoenix, Half-Blood Prince, Deathly Hallows Part 2. And always because "they changed some stuff." Actually, the test screenings were very positive so I am not sure what he is talking about. He is probably trying to ruffle the Potter fans.
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Jack Sparrow
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Barrabás wrote: Apparently the film is really bad...could this affect grosses? It could be the worst movie of the franchise and of the year but will still make $1b Worldwide total with 3D.
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BJ
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Barrabás wrote: Apparently the film is really bad...could this affect grosses? bullshit.
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Archangel
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Barrabás wrote: Apparently the film is really bad...could this affect grosses? Each of the Potter pics have been enoyable in their own right, i'm quite confident that it won't be "bad", i don't think it can go lower than HP7-1, there's going to be lots going on right through.
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Archangel
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the lesser evil wrote: Archangel wrote: Where the fuck is LOTRs, i hope next year's Hobbit goes straight to the top.  Return of the King was the highest opening LOTR film, currently at #12. Two Towers is at #16, while FOTR is somewhere in the bottom end of the top 50. They all had smaller openings and much better staying power than the HP films. Do you have the updated opening charts in Euro?
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Archangel
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Jack Sparrow wrote: Archangel wrote: Jack Sparrow wrote: I think it is highly unlikely for this to make up the lost ground. The biggest difference from Part 1 and Part 7 are the family audience which would be about half by now as the movies have matured for teen audience. I still don't see $850m-$900m "likely" You do realise Pirates 4 is headed for around $830m, $850m is not that much more. Plus Potter will kill Pirates in Europe.  Pirates currently is showing better staying power and has done that more consistently than HP in OS markets. I don't see a killing in all over Europe, it will gross more by a good margin but not at the level of killing. That's what i meant by killing  , can't I be a bit dramatic?
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Jack Sparrow
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Ha Ha dramatic entry accepted  ...HP will kill Pirates in Europe 
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the lesser evil
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Archangel wrote: the lesser evil wrote: Archangel wrote: Where the fuck is LOTRs, i hope next year's Hobbit goes straight to the top.  Return of the King was the highest opening LOTR film, currently at #12. Two Towers is at #16, while FOTR is somewhere in the bottom end of the top 50. They all had smaller openings and much better staying power than the HP films. Do you have the updated opening charts in Euro? There's this one: http://www.filmdistributeurs.nl/files/t ... 9.2.11.pdfIt hasn't been updated since februari, and whoever updated it then forgot to add New Kids: Turbo's €1.494.103 opening from December. The only other ones missing from it are Gooische Vrouwen's €1.693.165 from earlier this year, Fast Five's €1.033.969, Hangover 2's €1.193.100 and POTC 4's €2.296.692. I usually take their weekend chart ( http://www.filmdistributeurs.nl/files/1 ... eekend.pdf is the most recent) and mess around with the year/weekend number to find missing numbers. Don't think the weekend chart goes back further than early 2010 though. All of the statistics on that website make a whole lot more sense than the ones in dollars at BOM. I don't even know what kind of f-ed up exchange rate there was in December 2003 that gave ROTK an opening of nearly $4 million, or if BOM even got the right numbers (opening weekend instead of opening week).
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Archangel
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LOTRs had it been released over the regular frame without the Wednesday would be much higher on the list.
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Archangel
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The FINAL TRAILER is herehttp://trailers.apple.com/movies/wb/har ... 2_720p.movVery good trailer and some very good new scenes which they haven't shown before. The music doesn't compare to ROTK trailer but they obviously showed a lot more and there were some mindblowing scenes there. And i love how they played a bit of the nostalgic card, it's been 10 years already....and we've literally lived through each one. I'm starting to get pumped for this now
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Bluebomb
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Archangel wrote: Very good trailer and some very good new scenes which they haven't shown before. The music doesn't compare to ROTK trailer but they obviously showed a lot more and there were some mindblowing scenes there.
And i love how they played a bit of the nostalgic card, it's been 10 years already....and we've literally lived through each one.
I'm starting to get pumped for this now As someone who is not a part of the Harry Potter craze, that is a fantastic trailer. Definitely going for the epic factor here.
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Jack Sparrow
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I liked it and IMO is the best trailer for the movie and makes the movie really exciting to see in 3D. Still the scenes somehow looked the same to me just the different (time) versions of them (Hermoine and Ron's scenes with Fire and Water are probably repeated 3 times in the trailer but that seems to be from one big action scene) and probably some flashbacks that will not be part of it. The music is succinct though very similar to last trailer...nothing really special. I am sure though it might turn-off a few casual fans (families and teen girls) with so many action scenes and money shots.
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Archangel
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I'm hoping this movie makes up for the lack of exciting action and scenes of HP7-1. The trailer is choca block of action and explosions. Sure beats Tranformers 3 trailer. LOL
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Wut?! Transformers 3 trailer is nothing but action and explosions.
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the trailer really looked pretty good!!!, it actually beats T3 trailer by far
PS: The problem I found on the Transformers 3 trailer was the girl, why does she have to cry like Megan Fox, she looks dumb and stupid on it
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750+m OS for sure.
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Archangel
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The trailer for Hp7-2 will surely bring in those who have sat on the fence or on the other side of the fence the past few movies. I'm hearing a lot of people wanting to see this final release....for the sake of it being the last one and with big scenes
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Archangel
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Nazgul9 wrote: Wut?! Transformers 3 trailer is nothing but action and explosions. What i'm trying to say really is that Harry Potter is threating to out explode a Michael Bay movie, if you know what i mean 
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the lesser evil wrote: There's this one: http://www.filmdistributeurs.nl/files/t ... 9.2.11.pdfIt hasn't been updated since februari, and whoever updated it then forgot to add New Kids: Turbo's €1.494.103 opening from December. The only other ones missing from it are Gooische Vrouwen's €1.693.165 from earlier this year, Fast Five's €1.033.969, Hangover 2's €1.193.100 and POTC 4's €2.296.692. I usually take their weekend chart ( http://www.filmdistributeurs.nl/files/1 ... eekend.pdf is the most recent) and mess around with the year/weekend number to find missing numbers. Don't think the weekend chart goes back further than early 2010 though. All of the statistics on that website make a whole lot more sense than the ones in dollars at BOM. I don't even know what kind of f-ed up exchange rate there was in December 2003 that gave ROTK an opening of nearly $4 million, or if BOM even got the right numbers (opening weekend instead of opening week). Before a certain date BOM posted weekly grosses for many territories rather than weekend grosses. For Netherlands the changeover happened in early 2005.
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Archangel
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Which pisses me off because it's hard to compare some special pre-2005 movies such as LOTRs HPs, Matrix, Star Wars....etc to current movies.
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Dr. Lecter
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I wonder if Harry Potter will finally break 60 million pounds in UK again.
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Archangel
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Dr. Lecter wrote: I wonder if Harry Potter will finally break 60 million pounds in UK again. Toy Story 3 did last year, so that mark is not not unachievable.  It should do above 50m for sure, no question.
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Archangel
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FRANCE Preview
Jun 29 - Transformers 3 Jul 6 - Hanna, Hop, Larry Crowne, Jul 13 - Harry Potter 7-2, Diary of a Wimpy Kid Jul 20 - Troll Hunter, Mr Popper's Penguins, The Trip, Apollo 18 Jul 27 - Cars 2 Aug 3 - Super 8, Smurfs
I haven't done a France preview in a long time, thought i update the charts with some comparisons from an admissions point of view. Some highlights:
2001 (HP1): * #1 Total in 2001 (9.47m adms.) beating Amelie (8.636m), Le Verite Si Je Mens 2 (7.7m) and FOTR (6.876m). Currently stands at #32 on the All-Time admissions charts. * #2 Opening Weekend in 2001 (behind Le Verite Si Je Mens). It was at the time the 3rd largest opening weekend ever behind Taxi 2 and the aformentioned. Today, HP1 is #19 on the All-Time Opening Weekend charts in admissions.
2002 (HP2): * #2 Total in 2002 beaten by Asterix and Obelix 2 (14.559m adms.) though above TTT's 6.981m * #2 Opening Weekend in 2002 behind Asterix and Oberlix 2 again. Today, HP2 is opening weekend ranks #9 on the All-Time charts and is the 2nd largest Potter opening in admissions.
2004 (HP3): * #3 Total in 2004, a close 3rd behind Les Choristes (8.636m) and Shrek 2 (7.185m) * #1 Opener and comfortably ahead of Spiderman 2. Largest Potter opener and still sits at #6 on the All-Time charts.
2005 (HP4): * #1 Total in 2005, ahead of Star Wars 3 * #2 Opener behind Star Wars 3
2007 (HP5): * #3 Total in 2007, behind Ratatouille and Spiderman 3. Ahead of Pirates 3 and Shrek 3 * #2 Opener behind Pirates 3 but ahead of Taxi 4, Shrek 3 and Ratouille
2009 (HP6): * #3 Total in 2009, behind Avatar and Ice Age 3. Ahead of Le Petit Nocolas and 2012 * #1 Opener ahead of New Moon and 2012. 3rd largest Potter opening ever
2010 (HP7-1): * #1 Total in 2010 ahead of Les Petits Mouchoirs and Inception * #1 Opener ahead of Eclipse and Alice in Wonderland. #10 on the All-Time openers charts
Admissions had plummeted since the glory days of the early 2000s, nowadays, you would have to wait for that odd breakout to see any mesmerising admissions totals. Avatar being the last foreign release to gross above 10m admissions. HP7-1 was the largest grosser last year but is miles away at just under 6m admissions. This year has already seen a breakout in the form of local, Rien A Declarer grossing north of 8.1m admissions. Potter 7-2 will need to do something special if its to claim the 2011 trophy; it would take a return to form not seen since the days of HP2 to beat this (looks very unlikely). I'm thinking it could top 7m admissions but not much more.
The Potter franchise has however seen a steady hold in opening admissions. All Potter flicks have opened to more than 2m admissions with the highest at 2.8m. The past two Potters have lingered around the 2.3m mark; this should comfortably beat that and may even challenge HP4 for franchise honors.
Harry Potter 7-2: DH - 2.700.000 adms. (US$25m+) / 7.200.000 adms. (US$70m+) = 2.66x
Titanic - 1.385.367 adms. (US$8.1m) / 20.758.841 adms. (US$139m) = 15x Bienvenue Chez Les Ch'tis - 3.586.497 adms. (US$36.6m) / 20.479.826 adms. (US$194m) = 5.7x Avatar - 1.806.542 adms. (US$17.4m) / 14.638.741 adms. (US$159m) = 8.1x Les Bronzes 3 - 3.235.559 adms. (US$24.2m) / 10.355.930 adms. (US$77m) = 3.2x Harry Potter 1: PS - 2,091,061 adms. (US$10.2m) / 9.470.090 adms. (US$48.7m) = 4.5x Finding Nemo - 1.847.461 adms. (US$12.6m) / 9.311.689 adms. (US$64.8m) = 5.04x Harry Potter 2: COS - 2,426,543 adms. (US$13.5m) / 9.144.701 adms. (US$53.5m) = 3.7x Rien a Declarer - 2.244.226 adms. (US$20.2m) / 8.105.208 adms. (US$75m) = 3.6x Ratatouille - 1.391.853 adms. (US$11.4m) / 7.845.210 adms. (US$65.7m) = 5.6x Ice Age 3 - 1.740.293 adms. (US$14.8m) 7.803.757 adms. (US$69.3m) = 4.48x Harry Potter 4: GOF - 2,802,259 adms. (US$19.9m) / 7.731.601 adms. (US$50.8m) = 2.76x Lord Of The Rings: ROTK - 2.160.462 adms. (US$14m) / 7.393.904 adms. (US$48.4m) = 3.4x Star Wars 1: PM - 1.965.289 adms. (US$11m) / 7.303.131 adms. (US$55.8m) = 3.7x Star Wars 3: ROTS - 2.878.764 adms. (US$22.6m) / 7.247.809 adms. (US$56.9m) = 2.5x Shrek 2 - 1.450.074 adms. (US$9.9m) / 7.185.626 adms. (US$51m) = 5x Harry Potter 3: POA - 2.207.649 adms. (US$17.1m) / 7,138,548 adms. (US$47m) = 3.23x Lord Of The Rings: TTT - 1.893.754 adms. (US$9.8m) / 6.981.252 adms. (US$40.5m) = 3.7x Lord Of The Rings: FOTR - 1.584.893 adms. (US$8.3m) / 6.876.402 adms. (US$35m) = 4.34x Pirates Of The Caribbean 2: DMC - 2.239.707 adms. (US$17.8m) / 6.657.405 adms. (US$46.2m) = 2.97x Ice Age 2 - 1.810.305 adms. (US$12.5m) / 6.642.528 adms. (US$48.3m) = 3.66x Spiderman 1 - 1.667.212 adms. (US$8.5m) / 6.459.120 adms. (US$33m) = 3.9x Athur et les Minimoys - 1.348.862 adms. (US$9m) / 6.396.989 adms. (US$46m) = 4.7x Spiderman 3 - (US$22.5m 6-Day) / 6.336.433 adms. (US$55m) = 2.4x Harry Potter 5: OOTP - 2.013.012 adms. (US$17m) / 6.224.517 adms. (US$51.9m) = 3.09x Harry Potter 6: HBP - 2,388,845 adms. (US$20.5m) / 6,052,274 adms. (US$54.5m) = 2.53x Harry Potter 7-1: DH - 2.295.310 adms. (US$20.7m) / 5.922.309 adms. (US$51.5m) = 2.58x Pirates Of The Caribbean 3: AWE - 2.114.524 adms. (US$17.8m) / 5.763.630 adms. (US$48.3m) = 2.7x Star Wars 2: AOTC - 1.494.263 adms. (US$7.7m) / 5.713.593 adms. (US$30.7m) = 3.8x
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http://www.jsonline.com/entertainment/m ... 30184.htmlIs 3-D losing its dimension? One analyst thinks so. Richard Greenfield of entertainment-industry tracker BTIG tells the Hollywood Reporter that sales of tickets for 2-D screenings of "Green Lantern" and "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2" on the popular movie-ticket site Fandango are a sign of 3-D fatigue on the part of moviegoers."We continue to believe U.S. consumers are frustrated with the amount of 3-D movies Hollywood is producing, especially when combined with excessive ticket prices," Greenfield said. "Green Lantern," whether in 2-D or 3-D, is being forecast as this weekend's No. 1 movie at the box office, expected to pull in up to $60 million through Sunday. -- I wonder if this trend is going to continue and hurt next year's pics like Avengers, TDKR and The Hobbit. We could see a retracement in grosses, at least Domestically.
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TDKR is in 2D. So there is no impact there.
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