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Michael A
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:48 am Posts: 6245
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 Re: Gran Torino
If I saw this for a third time I think I would have to punch a small child in the face.
_________________Mr. R wrote: Malcolm wrote: You seem to think threatening violence against people is perfectly okay because you feel offended by their words, so that's kind of telling in itself. Exactly. If they don't know how to behave, and feel OK offending others, they get their ass kicked, so they'll think next time before opening their rotten mouths.
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Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:06 pm |
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MGKC
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:42 pm Posts: 11808 Location: Kansas City, Kansas
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John Savage wrote: If I saw this for a third time I think I would have to punch a small child in the face. Really?? Wow. Still in my top 3 of 2008 after three viewings. Clint Eastwood is amazing.
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Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:13 pm |
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Michael A
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:48 am Posts: 6245
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the pathetic attmept at a script that lures people in by pretending to be serious and real, not to mention some of the worst actors in the history of film (both of the asain kids, the priest, all of the family) and a very boring directorial hand= a film that makes me want to punch a small child in the face after a few viewings.
_________________Mr. R wrote: Malcolm wrote: You seem to think threatening violence against people is perfectly okay because you feel offended by their words, so that's kind of telling in itself. Exactly. If they don't know how to behave, and feel OK offending others, they get their ass kicked, so they'll think next time before opening their rotten mouths.
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_axiom
The Wall
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:50 am Posts: 16163 Location: Croatia
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Seriously.
You might not like this movie as everyone is entitled to their opinion and that's OK, but it's funny how right you think you are.
If the film had some of the worst actors in the history of film and a very boring directorial hand (this made me laugh quite hard, you might not like Clint, but his directing even when it's not top notch is better than most of directors working today) would it:
Have an A Cinemascore (which implies great WOM)? Would it end up with a 5.02 multiplier after a $29,484,388 OW? (Even when you take out the earnings in limited release it still has a huge 4.65 multiplier.) Have a 8.4 average user grade on imdb.com and currently occupy #84 on Top 250? Have an A- on Yahoo Movies from users? Have a 79% Tomatometer with a 7.1/10 average grade? Have a 72 Metacritic rating? Have a BFCA score of 85 (and a Critics Choice mark)?
Oh and NBR gave it the best original screenplay award. Talk about a pathetic script.
Yes, all this doesn't mean you should like the movie. As I said enjoyment is individual, but even when I don't like a highly regarded movie I can see why it's highly regarded, but it's just not my cup of tea. Certainly there are undeserved duds that get the attention, but GT is not one of them.
Did you ever think you approached the movie the wrong way? Cause from everything you wrote that's the only logic reason I can see behind your rants.
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Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:50 am |
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Michael A
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:48 am Posts: 6245
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1st of all, my rants are intended to be funny and make my point through hyperbole. If I have to explain that I guess it didn't come through, but oh well.
Secondly, most of the time I would agree with you. 99% of the time a film has wildly positive remarks from basically every movie source in existence, I can, at the very least, see why this exists. While I do sometimes disagree with the scores, you are correct that I usually can understand the reason behind the acclaim.
This is a rare exception. I found very little to marvel over and nothing to enjoy in this film. I understand that I am largely alone in that opinion, but I stand by it nonetheless and could not change it if I wanted to.
Oh, and btw, I do like Clint Eastwood as a director. Very much. I actually find the much criticized mystic river to be wonderful, I also enjoy million dollar baby immensely and the 45 minutes I saw of Letter from Iwo Jima made me want to see more (not to mention the great unforgiven) however I simply found nothing of the clint I loved in this film.
_________________Mr. R wrote: Malcolm wrote: You seem to think threatening violence against people is perfectly okay because you feel offended by their words, so that's kind of telling in itself. Exactly. If they don't know how to behave, and feel OK offending others, they get their ass kicked, so they'll think next time before opening their rotten mouths.
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Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:32 am |
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_axiom
The Wall
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:50 am Posts: 16163 Location: Croatia
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Fair enough. But next time add a smiley or hint somehow you're hyperboling or whatever.
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Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:56 am |
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Michael A
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:48 am Posts: 6245
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will do 
_________________Mr. R wrote: Malcolm wrote: You seem to think threatening violence against people is perfectly okay because you feel offended by their words, so that's kind of telling in itself. Exactly. If they don't know how to behave, and feel OK offending others, they get their ass kicked, so they'll think next time before opening their rotten mouths.
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Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:00 am |
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Mandeep
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Joined: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:22 pm Posts: 740
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Any "real man" likes the themes of the movie, the bonding between Clint and the Boy and the total bad ass acting by Clint. If he doesn't I question his masculinity, lol.
Watched it a 2nd time and yes the film has a real weakness with acting, but the movie is heart warming and charming and sad.
It does it in a simple manner, and not in some stupid over the top way that was overrated Oscar crap does.
Critics and elitist may not like the film, but almost every guy I know respect Clint for his last film, which was a great one.
Well DONE
Raise it from a B+ to an A- or a top 100 favourite.
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Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:25 pm |
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Grill
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Joined: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:01 am Posts: 8684
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Just watched it again. Gotta love Clint. Part Archie Bunker. Part Dirty Harry.
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Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:39 pm |
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Johnny Dollar
The Lubitsch Touch
Joined: Thu Jul 21, 2005 5:48 pm Posts: 11019
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Grill wrote: Just watched it again. Gotta love Clint. Part Archie Bunker. Part Dirty Harry. There's a little 'town from Mississippi Burning' in him too.
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Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:24 pm |
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Grill
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Johnny Dollar wrote: Grill wrote: Just watched it again. Gotta love Clint. Part Archie Bunker. Part Dirty Harry. There's a little 'town from Mississippi Burning' in him too. Know of MB but never saw or don't remember. Anyway, based on what I think it is about, I disagree. As both Archie and Clint were big talkers with soft hearts. Look at Clint, he accepted the whole neighborhood and mostly their gifts but still bitched about everyone. And he hated killing, even though he carried around guns cause of the killing he did in the war. And he was even ashamed of the medal he won for killing the enemy during the war.
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Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:34 pm |
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Argos
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Grill wrote: Look at Clint, he accepted the whole neighborhood and mostly their gifts but still bitched about everyone. And he hated killing, even though he carried around guns cause of the killing he did in the war. And he was even ashamed of the medal he won for killing the enemy during the war. Look carefully: 
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Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:36 pm |
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Grill
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Joined: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:01 am Posts: 8684
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Argos wrote: Grill wrote: Look at Clint, he accepted the whole neighborhood and mostly their gifts but still bitched about everyone. And he hated killing, even though he carried around guns cause of the killing he did in the war. And he was even ashamed of the medal he won for killing the enemy during the war. Look carefully:  Another boring night where your dying to talk to me. Nope. F Off. And LOL, that you wasted any time searching for that picture. See the Pathetic Loser thread.
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trixster
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Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:31 pm Posts: 19697 Location: ville-marie
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I thought this was largely a joke. An unfunny one.
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David
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Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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This movie makes Michael A want to assault a child.
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Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:38 am |
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Michael A
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Gunslinger wrote: This movie makes Michael A want to assault a child. It really, honestly does, just the mere memory of it, 
_________________Mr. R wrote: Malcolm wrote: You seem to think threatening violence against people is perfectly okay because you feel offended by their words, so that's kind of telling in itself. Exactly. If they don't know how to behave, and feel OK offending others, they get their ass kicked, so they'll think next time before opening their rotten mouths.
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Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:54 am |
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David
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Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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_________________   1. The Lost City of Z - 2. A Cure for Wellness - 3. Phantom Thread - 4. T2 Trainspotting - 5. Detroit - 6. Good Time - 7. The Beguiled - 8. The Florida Project - 9. Logan and 10. Molly's Game
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