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It's very simple math BKB, Predators 40 million budget, will make about 120 million WW, profit of 80 million.

Expendables budget of 80 million, will at least make 200 WW even if it flops in the US, profit of at least 120 million.

(And to everyone else, I'm not doing studio % as that will be the next class for BKB)

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There is absolutely no indication that this could possibly open anywhere near $70 million -- the buzz is not nearly high enough (at last check, it's significantly behind where Inception was at this time before its release and is even behind Eat Pray Love now), nor is the tracking. Lionsgate is anticipating an OW in the $20-30 million range, as that's where the film is tracking. It is therefore impossible for the movie to be deemed a disappointment if it opens under $70m, except within the minds of a delusional few.


Doesn't the tracking thread have it at the highest pre-open rank on IMDB since Iron Man 2?

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It's very simple math BKB, Predators 40 million budget, will make about 120 million WW, profit of 80 million.

Expendables budget of 80 million, will at least make 200 WW even if it flops in the US, profit of at least 120 million.

(And to everyone else, I'm not doing studio % as that will be the next class for BKB)

Well, keep in mind that the studio only gets on average 55% of the domestic box office and a bit less of the total worldwide box office; the theater chains get the rest. Also, don't forget to account for marketing and distribution.

If I remember correctly, the marketing/distribution costs for Predators was roughly half of the budget. So, let's say the total costs for the movie come to $60 million. Now let's say Fox manages to get half of the film's total worldwide gross. Assuming a final worldwide gross $120 million, Fox would get $60 million of that -- meaning it recouped all of its costs, but it will have to wait for DVD/Blu-ray to make a profit.

I'm assuming, though, that Fox will manage to get a little bit more than half of the worldwide gross. Knowing Fox as I do, though, they probably won't get much more. I think they will make a tiny profit from the movie's theatrical run, but most of the money will still be coming from DVD sales. (Compare this to Inception, which cost over four times as much to make yet it will start recouping its budget in the next week or so, assuming it hasn't reached that point already.) Regardless, Fox has deemed Predators a success (as studios tend to do when a movie recoups its entire budget in theaters despite not actually making much profit) and is now talking with people about a sequel.

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Doesn't the tracking thread have it at the highest pre-open rank on IMDB since Iron Man 2?

Yeah, but that doesn't necessarily indicate a $70 million+ opening. It just means there's a lot of online activity for it. Unless I'm mistaken, overall interest and activity (Flixster, Twitter, Facebook) are still well behind the point where Inception was at the same time prior to release. As is tracking.


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I don't understand why people are taking the time to write a long post about BKB.

He's a moron. He doesn't deserve more than a second.


You know what, I don't know why, either. I told myself I wasn't going to, but for some reason I just couldn't help pointing out the error of his ways. I dunno, maybe I was thinking I could actually talk some sense into him. I know, laughable. But it only took me a few minutes to write, and I had a few minutes to spare, so... there ya go. :P

EDIT: btw, if it wasn't for others quoting him, I never would know what the hell BKB is saying. A lotta good the ignore option does when people repost what the guy said. :roll:


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TrekFan1 wrote:
Thegun wrote:
It's very simple math BKB, Predators 40 million budget, will make about 120 million WW, profit of 80 million.

Expendables budget of 80 million, will at least make 200 WW even if it flops in the US, profit of at least 120 million.

(And to everyone else, I'm not doing studio % as that will be the next class for BKB)

Well, keep in mind that the studio only gets on average 55% of the domestic box office and a bit less of the total worldwide box office; the theater chains get the rest. Also, don't forget to account for marketing and distribution.

If I remember correctly, the marketing/distribution costs for Predators was roughly half of the budget. So, let's say the total costs for the movie come to $60 million. Now let's say Fox manages to get half of the film's total worldwide gross. Assuming a final worldwide gross $120 million, Fox would get $60 million of that -- meaning it recouped all of its costs, but it will have to wait for DVD/Blu-ray to make a profit.

I'm assuming, though, that Fox will manage to get a little bit more than half of the worldwide gross. Knowing Fox as I do, though, they probably won't get much more. I think they will make a tiny profit from the movie's theatrical run, but most of the money will still be coming from DVD sales. (Compare this to Inception, which cost over four times as much to make yet it will start recouping its budget in the next week or so, assuming it hasn't reached that point already.) Regardless, Fox has deemed Predators a success (as studios tend to do when a movie recoups its entire budget in theaters despite not actually making much profit) and is now talking with people about a sequel.

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Doesn't the tracking thread have it at the highest pre-open rank on IMDB since Iron Man 2?

Yeah, but that doesn't necessarily indicate a $70 million+ opening. It just means there's a lot of online activity for it. Unless I'm mistaken, overall interest and activity (Flixster, Twitter, Facebook) are still well behind the point where Inception was at the same time prior to release. As is tracking.


You obviously did not read my post in parenthesis, believe me I know more that most about product placing and the studio percentage than most people on here. I didn't go into it for BKB's benefit. O is one of the best box office indicators on this site, and I've had a very good average as well, 70+ million is absurd, but 40+ million is certainly not out of the question.

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TrekFan1 wrote:
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It's very simple math BKB, Predators 40 million budget, will make about 120 million WW, profit of 80 million.

Expendables budget of 80 million, will at least make 200 WW even if it flops in the US, profit of at least 120 million.

(And to everyone else, I'm not doing studio % as that will be the next class for BKB)

Well, keep in mind that the studio only gets on average 55% of the domestic box office and a bit less of the total worldwide box office; the theater chains get the rest. Also, don't forget to account for marketing and distribution.

If I remember correctly, the marketing/distribution costs for Predators was roughly half of the budget. So, let's say the total costs for the movie come to $60 million. Now let's say Fox manages to get half of the film's total worldwide gross. Assuming a final worldwide gross $120 million, Fox would get $60 million of that -- meaning it recouped all of its costs, but it will have to wait for DVD/Blu-ray to make a profit.

I'm assuming, though, that Fox will manage to get a little bit more than half of the worldwide gross. Knowing Fox as I do, though, they probably won't get much more. I think they will make a tiny profit from the movie's theatrical run, but most of the money will still be coming from DVD sales. (Compare this to Inception, which cost over four times as much to make yet it will start recouping its budget in the next week or so, assuming it hasn't reached that point already.) Regardless, Fox has deemed Predators a success (as studios tend to do when a movie recoups its entire budget in theaters despite not actually making much profit) and is now talking with people about a sequel.

Thegun wrote:
Doesn't the tracking thread have it at the highest pre-open rank on IMDB since Iron Man 2?

Yeah, but that doesn't necessarily indicate a $70 million+ opening. It just means there's a lot of online activity for it. Unless I'm mistaken, overall interest and activity (Flixster, Twitter, Facebook) are still well behind the point where Inception was at the same time prior to release. As is tracking.


You obviously did not read my post in parenthesis, believe me I know more that most about product placing and the studio percentage than most people on here. I didn't go into it for BKB's benefit. O is one of the best box office indicators on this site, and I've had a very good average as well, 70+ million is absurd, but 40+ million is certainly not out of the question.


Ah, no, I didn't see that part, sorry. I agree, though, that $40-50 million isn't out of the question. I just don't think it's likely.


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Magbus is right (wow).

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Magbus is right (wow).

Yes. Yes, he is. That response is crazy long. Whoever wrote it is a fool for wasting his time!

Oh, wait... :unsure:


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This movie will suck and that is a lock :P , but seriously 70m OW was not being predicted by anyone. This is too much to expect from an action movie this summer where Action movies have done pretty much no business


Yeah, but action movies with this type of cast going for it??? :-k Never have seen all 3 80's action stars on the same screen before and it should draw alot of moviegoers(hopefully) as a result...

From what I get, BKB is a HUGE SUPPORTER of this movie. He WANTS it to make $70 m OW. The rest is just a lame attempt to be heard. All we need to know is that he supports it, which means the movie flops.


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Mr. R wrote:
Tony Stark wrote:
soagg wrote:
This movie will suck and that is a lock :P , but seriously 70m OW was not being predicted by anyone. This is too much to expect from an action movie this summer where Action movies have done pretty much no business


Yeah, but action movies with this type of cast going for it??? :-k Never have seen all 3 80's action stars on the same screen before and it should draw alot of moviegoers(hopefully) as a result...

From what I get, BKB is a HUGE SUPPORTER of this movie. He WANTS it to make $70 m OW. The rest is just a lame attempt to be heard. All we need to know is that he supports it, which means the movie flops.


I would very much like this movie to succeed based on the star power involved from the main 3 and I still say this movie with that alone and it's premise should open to at least what I predicted or pretty damn close and if it doesn't?? Then YES, I'd have to declare it a disappointment.. I'm sorry, but WW might be different, but I focus more on Domestic which is where it counts in the end in the U.S.. Rarely do you ever hear about WW unless the movie tanks in the U.S and they use the WW Number to pick up the pieces, to make it look like it made more than what it did and as a result, save face..

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BUMP.. 35 Million for the weekend is horrid for this and proves that these guys should've stayed dead and buried so we could remember them for their greatness back then and not now.. I guess I can chalk this one up and put it to rest.. :whistle:

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lol

The film actually did extremely well, thanks to you saying it wouldn't!


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Meanwhile, PREDATORS, a movie that costs $40m has made $51m and it won't outgross A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET, a movie that cost $35m and made $63m.
But BKB calls the first one a bonafide hit and the second one a financial bomb. I want some of that logic. :-k :-k :-k

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BKB, you are the only man I know who loses when he wins.


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