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I expected $250 million. So? It did not live up to expecttations, yet it is financially a big success story.

Nobody gives a shit about what you've expected when it's 2 weeks after the release date, don't you think so?


I meant I expected $250 million for the first five days. But does it matter? No.

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Its a huge hit, and industry expectations were never that high, only tracking for the final three weeks was.

Close to 300 WW in theaters, at least another 200 WW in DVD sales, and probably at least a 50 million deal for TV rights. Considering Sony exclusively owns it, and not to mention the album to go with it, which has already sold over 1 million units WW, that will probably end up being another 50-100 million WW. It's budget and marketing was said to be less than what they paid for the rights it was mostly post production work. Most of the filming had already taken place.

600 low end WW on a 140 million investment at most = huge success, and thats year one alone

It's not about the money. It's about sending a message.
This is It was a major theatrical dissapointment and not that big of a success (before you throw in DVDs and CDs, etc - then again, when taking those, every movie is a success, but we can't live in a world like that, it doesn't live us space for imagination and argument, so we trash the movie that dissapointed in theaters - I thought that was the general rule). So no matter how much sugar you put in that pill, it's still bitter. And yeah, I don't give a damn about the rest, since the box-office is the public number we have here, and a comparison point for all other films.

P.S. Thanks for explaining all that shit to me, as if I didn't know, playing with that for 8 years.


Uh, no your wrong. A, its not a disappointment in theaters, its still making 300WW on a 140 million complete budget. Not only that it had great reviews, critical and personal, and has a good chance at awards in the coming months. And stop being so naive. People that don't know any better only look at box-office numbers. those that know even less only look at domestic numbers, its not the only public number released either. For an experience that was never intended for theaters, it was a good size success in theaters, and will continue to make Sony 100s of millions in the future (Who knows how much of the different, darker footage that has yet to be seen)

Your stuck in the 90s, theater grosses in general are going to account for less and less of the revenue for all films.

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Your stuck in the 90s, theater grosses in general are going to account for less and less of the revenue for all films.

Funny thing though is that DVD sales are declining and box office is rising...

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We've been in a weaker economy, that is to be expected, plus DVD has more competition than it had even 3 years ago. The overseas market is still expanding, dvd rentals are still very strong though. It doesn't help that there aren't as many big franchises released on dvd than there were last year, I still expect 09 to catch up to 08, dvd sales wise.

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Your stuck in the 90s, theater grosses in general are going to account for less and less of the revenue for all films.

I don't fucking care. MJ's This is it was a major dissapointment for the studio, no matter how you try to paint it - no one cares. The end.


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Your stuck in the 90s, theater grosses in general are going to account for less and less of the revenue for all films.

I don't fucking care. MJ's This is it was a major dissapointment for the studio, no matter how you try to paint it - no one cares. The end.

Actually Sony never predicted the infamous $250m in 5 days number, that was AEG, a company which has no experience in movies. If I remember correctly Sony said it "would be happy" with $100m in five days and that is what they got...

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UK box-office:

http://movies.nytimes.com/pages/movies/ ... index.html

Up certainly had a large drop (coming off an inflated weekend and competing with A Christmas Carol), but its current total is just terrific. Definitely looking to pass £30 million. It's already #43 of all-time in UK and it has a chance to crack the Top 30 eventually.

Solid starts for Jennifer's Body, The Men Who Stare at Goats and The Fourth Kind. 'Twas quite a competitive weekend.

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Your stuck in the 90s, theater grosses in general are going to account for less and less of the revenue for all films.

I don't fucking care. MJ's This is it was a major dissapointment for the studio, no matter how you try to paint it - no one cares. The end.


A I'm not painting.I'm stating fact, Sony will be crying all the way to the banks as they can finance Spiderman 4 and probably 2 other big blockbusters for next year just with This is It's revenue.
B you're a failure in convincing an argument when you only use facts you want to use, so you certainly can't have the last word when your completely wrong. The End. :thumbsup:

Thank you Mark for posting Sony's actual expectations. This kid thinks a box office website average prediction is what the studios look at.

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UK box-office:

http://movies.nytimes.com/pages/movies/ ... index.html

Up certainly had a large drop (coming off an inflated weekend and competing with A Christmas Carol), but its current total is just terrific. Definitely looking to pass £30 million. It's already #43 of all-time in UK and it has a chance to crack the Top 30 eventually.

Solid starts for Jennifer's Body, The Men Who Stare at Goats and The Fourth Kind. 'Twas quite a competitive weekend.


Up has already passed 30M pounds in uk.

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China's box office last week:

1. Michael Jackson's This Is It (就是这样) - 16m ($2.34m), -33.3%, 40m ($5.86m)
2. Knowing (神秘代码) - 14.5m ($2.12m), +46%, 24.4m ($3.57m)
3. Astro Boy (阿童木) - 7.8m ($1.14m), -48%, 40.8m ($5.98m)
4. The Message (风声) - 7.2m ($1.05m), -44.6%, 214m ($31.35m)
5. Radish Warrior (倔强萝卜) - 4.85m ($0.71m), -40.9%, 19m ($2.78m)
6. My Airhostess Roommate (恋爱前规则) - 4.6m ($0.67m), New, 4.6m ($0.67m)
7. The Taking of Pelham 1 2 3 (地铁惊魂) - 4.3m ($0.63m), -49.4%, 28.3m ($4.15m)
8. Visitors from the Sui Dynasty (隋朝来客) - 1.6m ($0.23m), New, 1.6m ($0.23m)
9. Rogue (逃出鳄鱼岛) - 1.1m ($0.16m), -68.6%, 22.6m ($3.31m)

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Is it okay to say Up is going to top Ice Age 3 in UK?

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How much does everyone expect 2012 to make overseas this weekend? In total?


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"2012," director Roland Emmerich's 2 1/2-hours-plus disaster epic, inundated the foreign circuit with openings at 12,685 screens in 105 territories for a rousing No. 1 weekend boxoffice tally of $160 million.

Sony says "2012" opened No. 1 in each market it played and drew the biggest overseas boxoffice opening of all time for a non-sequel. In addition, according to the studio, its opening offshore gross was the fifth-largest ever.

The film's foreign opening figure -- the third biggest of 2009 to date -- was nearly 2 1/2 times its $65-million domestic bow at 3,404 screens.

Premiering day-and-date with its No. 1 domestic launch, "2012" decisively supplanted Sony's "This Is It" with Michael Jackson, which had been No. 1 for two consecutive frames.

This time, the Jackson doc finished No. 3, down 61% from the prior frame, with $11.5 million drawn from 5,770 screens 100 markets. Overseas total gross is a solid $155.4 million, and the worldwide cume stands at $223.6 million.

"2012's" top five markets over the weekend were France ($17.2 million from 750 screens), Russia ($15.3 million from 840 locations), Germany (12.4 million from 1,002 situations), China ($12.3 million from 1,946 locales) and the U.K. ($10.8 million from 828 sites).

Its German-born director's previous special effects-laden, apocalypse-themed outings performed strongly on the foreign circuit. Emmerich's 1996 outing, "Independence Day," drew total overseas boxoffice of $511.2 million, according to 20th Century Fox. 2004's "The Day After Tomorrow" opened to $84.5 million and went on to drawn an international cume of $357.5 million. It was also released by Fox.

"2012," co-starring John Cusack, Woody Harrelson and Amanda Peet, will open in Japan and Vietnam on Friday, South Africa on Dec. 2 and Argentina on Dec. 3.

A distant No. 2 on the weekend was director Robert Zemeckis' 3D performance-capture version of "Disney's A Christmas Carol," which captured $16 million in its second weekend from 3,229 screens in 21 territories. The latest film version of Charles Dickens' 1843 novella with Jim Carrey as Ebenezer Scrooge raised its early international cume to $33.6 million.

"Christmas Carol" opened at No. 1 in Japan ($3.1 million from 375 screens) and grossed another $2.4 million from 440 sites in its Spain debut. Disney says that film is so far tracking 47% ahead of "The Polar Express," Zemeckis' 2004 Christmas season title in 3D, "in the like bucket of markets over the comparable time frame." Premieres in 19 markets loom this week.
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Pixar/Disney's "Up" ranked No. 4 overall with a weekend tally of $4.9 million generated from 3,348 locations in 25 territories. Foreign cume stands at $374.5 million, $40.5 million shy of the total overseas take of Pixar/Disney's "Ratatouille."

Disney says "Up" is the studio's fourth-biggest animation hit of all time overseas. Its worldwide tally stands at $668 million, with a Japan opening due Dec. 5. Fifth on the weekend was Universal's release "Couples Retreat," which garnered an estimated $3.8 million from 1,400 sites in 20 territories. With 40 territories yet to play, "Couples Retreat" has notched total foreign gross of $34.1 million.

Disney's "G-Force," an animation outing in 3D from producer Jerry Bruckheimer, raised its overseas cume to $157.2 million thanks to a $2.4 million weekend at 1,993 screens in 24 markets. The same studio's "Surrogates," a sci-fi outing starring Bruce Willis, drew $2.2 million on the weekend from 1,270 sites in 35 territories for an overseas cume of $68.9 million.

In the U.K., Fox's "Fantastic Mr. Fox," an animation outing from director Wes Anderson, raised its market cume to $12.6 million thanks to a $1.2 million weekend and No. 5 finish at 487 screens. In Mexico, director Pedro Almodovar's "Los Abrazos Rotas" (Broken Embraces) opened via Universal at 75 spots for an estimated $125,000.

In France, "Tresor" (Treasure), director-writer-producer Claude Berri's final film (he died Jan. 11), co-starring Mathilde Seigner and Alain Chabat, opened at No. 2 via Pathe with an estimated $2.5 million drawn from 330 situations.

Another local-language newcomer in France was EuropaCorp.'s "A l'origine," about a construction con man running up against the female mayor of a small village. Co-starring Francois Cluzet and Gerard Depardieu, "Origine" opened at No. 9 with an estimated $1.5 million from 300 locations.

Other international cumes: Sony's "Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs," $59.5 million; Disney's "Kniga Masterov" (Book of Masters), $11 milion (in Russia only); Fox's "Amelia," $479,000; Universal's "Public Enemies," $106 million; the Wild Bunch Distribution's "Le petit Nicolas," $44.5 million (over seven stanzas in France only); and the Weinstein Co./Universal's "Inglourious Basterds," $187.7 million.

Also, Warner's "Micmacs a tire-larigot," $9.6 million (over three France frames); Fox's "(500) Days of Summer," $22.1 million; Universal's "Cirque du Freak: The Vampire's Assistant," $10.5 million; EuropaCorp.'s "Le Concert," $5.2 million (in two frames in France only); and Universal's "De Storm," $6.4 million (from the Netherlands and Belgium only); and Fox's "Jennifer's Body," $15.3 million.


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15 November, 2009 | By Jeremy Kay

Roland Emmerich releases seldom pass without a whimper and the German director and Sony Pictures Releasing International (SPRI) pulled off a truly massive result with the global annihilation tale 2012, which pounded its way onto 12,685 screens in 105 markets to deliver $160m – the biggest international opening of all-time for a non-sequel.

2012 ranks fifth in the all-time overseas opening weekend pantheon and combined with the $65m number one North American launch to recoup its $200m production cost in its first worldwide weekend with a $225m global haul. The film pulled off the remarkable feat of ranking number one in all its markets. Highlights were $17.2m in France from 750 screens, $15.3m in Russia from 840 in the second biggest opening ever behind Ice Age 3, $12.4m in Germany from 1,002 and $12.3m in China from 1,946 in the fourth biggest ever industry opening there.

Elsewhere the disaster movie starring John Cusack and Amanda Peet took $10.8m in the UK from 828, $9.9m in South Korea from 622, $8.1m in Spain from 585, $6.9m in Italy from 520, $5.5m in Australia from 405, $5m in Brazil from 551 in the eighth biggest ever industry opening, and $4.9m in Mexico from 781.
In other key results the film amassed $4m in India from 674 in the second biggest ever industry opening behind Sony’s Spider-Man 3, $3.9m in Poland from 141, $3.4m in Taiwan from 205 in the tenth biggest ever industry opening, $2.8m in Thailand from 185 in the fourth biggest ever industry opening, $2.3m in Malaysia from 136 in the second biggest ever industry opening behind PPI’s Transformers 2, $2.1m in Turkey from 178, $2.1m in Belgium from 88 in the tenth biggest ever industry opening, $2.05m in Holland from 127, and $2.04m in Hong Kong from 55.
2012 plundered $1.9m in Greece from 138 in the seventh biggest ever industry opening, $1.9m in Switzerland from 121, $1.7m in the Philippines from 100 in the tenth biggest ever industry opening, $1.6m in Austria from 97, $1.6m in Singapore from 95, $1.6m in Sweden from 110, $1.2m in Indonesia from 75 in the sixth biggest ever industry opening, $1.2m in Denmark from 74, $1.2m in Norway from 90, $1.1m in Ukraine from 91, $1.1m in UAE from 39, and $1m in Chile in the eighth biggest ever industry opening.
SPRI had two other not films in release this weekend. The Michael Jackson tribute film This Is It added a considerable $11.5m from 5,770 screens in 100 markets for $155.4m, while animated title Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs added $1.4m from 1,360 for $59.9m.

A Christmas Carol added a further $16m through Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures International from 3,229 screens in 21 territories to raise the tally to an early $33.6m.
3D screenings accounted for more than 60% of weekend business on less than 40% of available screens. The family film opened top in Japan on $3.1m from 375 and debuted in Spain on $2.4m from 440.
A Christmas Carol added $4.2m in the UK from 641 for $9.1m to rank second behind 2012. Roughly 75% of business came from 3D screens. In Mexico, a further $1.4m from 622 pushed the tally to $4.1m. Next week the film lands in 19 new markets including Russia, Poland and Belgium.
Pixar hit Up added $4.9m from 3,348 screens in 25 territories for an excellent $374.5m that positions it as Disney’s fourth biggest international performer. The worldwide tally stands at $668m and Japan opens on December 5.

Family release G-Force added $2.4m from 1,993 in 24 territories for $157.2m, while Surrogates grossed $2.2m from 1,270 in 35 countries for $68.9m. France added $1.2m in its third weekend and stands at $8m and the sci-fi thriller still has a way to go, with launches set for Italy on January 8, German-speaking Europe on January 21 and Japan on January 23. Disney’s local Russian production Book Of Masters stands at $11m in Russia after three weekends.

Universal/UPI’s comedy Couples Retreat grossed $3.8m from 1,400 sites in 20 territories for $34.1m and opened in the Middle East, Norway and Serbia.
The second weekend in Germany yielded $1.9m from 332 for third place and a $4.9m tally. Austria stands at $1.4m, Mexico $900,000 and Australia $9.6m after six. There are 40 territories to go.
Public Enemies added $1.5m from 282 venues in its second weekend in Italy and has grossed an excellent $5.2m. The gangster film’s international total is $106m and Japan is the final destination on December 12. Inglourious Basterds from Quentin Tarantino grossed $1.2m from 1,500 in 39 for $187.7m and opens in Japan on November 20.

The fantasy adventure Cirque Du Freak: The Vampire’s Assistant has taken $10.5m from eight territories so far and arrives in France on December 2. Dutch title De Storm ranks fourth in the Netherlands after nine weeks and has amassed $6.3m and $6.4m including Belgium. Broken Embraces opened in second place in Mexico on $125,000 behind 2012 and has amassed $780,000 from Mexico, Argentina and Venezuela. UPI will release Pedro Almodovar’s film in a further five further territories.

Fox International’s animated Fantastic Mr Fox grossed $1.2m in its fourth weekend in the UK following a mere 9% drop and stands at $12.6m. The Amelia Earhart biopic Amelia landed in five new territories and took $437,564 over the weekend for $478,904. Horror title Jennifer’s Body and indie romance 500 Days of Summer stand at $15.3m and $22.1m, respectively.

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Wow, I knew 2012 would be big...but THAT big? Nope. And it still has Japan ahead where it almost certainly will be a hit as well. The Day After Tomorrow managed $357 million overseas, but this is way way bigger. I also se it having relatively decent holds as there'sa little upcoming major competition for it overseas. I'm thinking $450+ million overseas and $650+ million worldwide. I wouldn't rule out $700 million worldwide, though. Transformers 2's overseas number is going down, though.


This Is It is still pulling solid numbers, though the run is winding down now. We're looking at around $275 million in total worldwide.


A Christmas Carol is also doing surprisingly wll. Keep in mind that it'll remain stable pretty much all the way until Christmas. I think it can manage to gross $300 million worldwide.


Couples Retreat's slow roll-out seems to be pretty successful as well. Looks like it not only ended up being a big hit in the US and we should expect over $200 million worldwide from it.


With Japan ahead, Inglourious Basterds is pretty much a lock for $200 million overseas and $320+ million worldwide. Very impressive.

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the only market where it will fail to beat TDAT is the UK...


Elsewhere you will see the film do much better.

Russia and China will add an additional 60 million more its gross then for TDAT.

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Japan as well, I suppose. TDAT made $47 million there, but the box-office for Hollywood films went down in Japan recently with only Harry Potter passing $50 million this year, I think.

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I am really looking forward to see how New Moon does this week. Seems like the phenomenon really exploded globally since the Twilight movie. In Russia it became just HUGE with multiple reprints of all Meyer's books. Before the movie was released, 3 first books had 19,000 copies total. Now Mayer's 5 books have around 300,000 copies. In just one year they've released 2 new editions of Twilight, 1 new of New Moon, 1 new of Eclipse, 2 of Breaking Dawn and 2 of her new book, The Host, and I'm pretty sure they will add more paperback editions soon, at the very least (as only Twilight and New Moon have paperback editions).

As if it was not enough already, Channel One, the biggest TV channel in CIS, just aired Twilight movie on Sunday, prime-time, first time on TV. Yeah, and True Blood is on TV.

Not to mention that the whole vampire thing is the new trend with multiple books on the subject being released by every publishing house. I can't even count the number of new titles and reprints of older ones that came out in just one year since Twilight, probably close to 100, it's a fucking gold mine. To name a few: House of Night (6 books), Vampire Academy (2 books), Vampire Diaries (2 books), Let the right one in, Vampire Hunter D, Vampire's Assistant, the local compilation series Prisoners of Twilight (3 books), Vampire Kisses (3 books), Pattinson's biography or whatever that is, obviously Ann Rice and Bram Stoker got new editions, lots of reprints of other classic vampire things, foreign and local ones.


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China's box office for last week:

1. 2012 - 87m ($12.74m), New, 87m ($12.74m)
2. Knowing (神秘代码) - 6.6m ($0.97m), -54.5%, 31m ($4.54m)
3. Michael Jackson's This Is It (就是这样) - 6.2m ($0.91m), -61.2%, 46.2m ($6.77m)
4. Astro Boy (阿童木) - 3.5m ($0.51m), -55.1%, 44.3m ($6.49m)
5. My Airhostess Roommate (恋爱前规则) - 2.7m ($0.40m), -41.3%, 7.3m ($1.07m)
6. The Message (风声) - 2.6m ($0.38m), -63.9%, 216.6m ($31.73m)
7. Radish Warrior (倔强萝卜) - 2.5m ($0.37m), -48.5%, 21.5m ($3.15m)
8. The Taking of Pelham 1 2 3 (地铁惊魂) - 1.7m ($0.25m), -60.5%, 30m ($4.39m)
9. Visitors from the Sui Dynasty (隋朝来客) - 1.65m ($0.24m), +3%, 3.2m ($0.47m)

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How much did Transformers 2 end up grossing?

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How much did Transformers 2 end up grossing?


430m yuan, or around $63m.

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Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:53 pm
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Post Re: Intl. Box-Office: 2012 makes $225 million WW opening weekend
Wow

What about The Founding of a Republic?

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Post Re: Intl. Box-Office: 2012 makes $225 million WW opening weekend
Dr. Lecter wrote:
Wow

What about The Founding of a Republic?


About 10m yuan less.

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