Million Dollar Baby Takes Best Picture - Oscar Thread
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 Million Dollar Baby Takes Best Picture - Oscar Thread
WINNERS
Oscar Winners Picture: Million Dollar Baby
Director: Clint Eastwood
Actor: Jamie Foxx, Ray
Original Screenplay: Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Foreign Language Film: The Sea Inside
Best Actress: Hilary Swank
Best Song: The Motorcycle Diaries
Original Score - Finding Neverland
Documentary Short: Mighty Times - The Children's March
Sound Effects Editing - The Incredibles
Sound - Ray
Cinematography - The Aviator
Animated Short - Ryan
Live Action Short - WASP
Visual Effects: Spider-Man 2
Screenplay, Adapted: Sideways
Editing: The Aviator
Best Documentary: Born into Brothels
Best Supporting Actress: Cate Blanchett
Art Director: The Aviator
Best Supporting Actor: Morgan Freeman
Animated Feature: The Incredibles
Makeup: Lemony Snicket
Costume: The Aviator
Chris Rock, radical production changes, no breakout hit, one thing is for sure, this year's Oscars won't be boring.
The countdown has begun.
The show starts this sunday at 8 PM EST. We had a very successful thread last year during the show.
So if you're not throwing a party or are not surrounded by people who love the Oscars, stop by and support your favorite film (or slam one you hate).
BEST PICTURE
THE AVIATOR
FINDING NEVERLAND
MILLION DOLLAR BABY
RAY
SIDEWAYS
DIRECTING
THE AVIATOR
MILLION DOLLAR BABY
RAY
SIDEWAYS
VERA DRAKE
ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE
Don Cheadle - HOTEL RWANDA
Johnny Depp - FINDING NEVERLAND
Leonardo DiCaprio - THE AVIATOR
Clint Eastwood - MILLION DOLLAR BABY
Jamie Foxx - RAY
ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE
Alan Alda - THE AVIATOR
Thomas Haden Church - SIDEWAYS
Jamie Foxx - COLLATERAL
Morgan Freeman - MILLION DOLLAR BABY
Clive Owen - CLOSER
ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLE
Annette Bening - BEING JULIA
Catalina Sandino Moreno - MARIA FULL OF GRACE
Imelda Staunton - VERA DRAKE
Hilary Swank - MILLION DOLLAR BABY
Kate Winslet - ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND
ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE
Cate Blanchett - THE AVIATOR
Laura Linney - KINSEY
Virginia Madsen - SIDEWAYS
Sophie Okonedo - HOTEL RWANDA
Natalie Portman - CLOSER
WRITING (ADAPTED SCREENPLAY)
BEFORE SUNSET
FINDING NEVERLAND
MILLION DOLLAR BABY
THE MOTORCYCLE DIARIES
SIDEWAYS
WRITING (ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY)
THE AVIATOR
ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND
HOTEL RWANDA
THE INCREDIBLES
VERA DRAKE
ANIMATED FEATURE FILM
THE INCREDIBLES
SHARK TALE
SHREK 2
ART DIRECTION
THE AVIATOR
FINDING NEVERLAND
LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS
THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA
A VERY LONG ENGAGEMENT
CINEMATOGRAPHY
THE AVIATOR
HOUSE OF FLYING DAGGERS
THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST
THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA
A VERY LONG ENGAGEMENT
COSTUME DESIGN
THE AVIATOR
FINDING NEVERLAND
LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS
RAY
TROY
DOCUMENTARY FEATURE
BORN INTO BROTHELS
THE STORY OF THE WEEPING CAMEL
SUPER SIZE ME
TUPAC: RESURRECTION
TWIST OF FAITH
DOCUMENTARY SHORT SUBJECT
AUTISM IS A WORLD
THE CHILDREN OF LENINGRADSKY
HARDWOOD
MIGHTY TIMES: THE CHILDREN'S MARCH
SISTER ROSE'S PASSION
FILM EDITING
THE AVIATOR
COLLATERAL
FINDING NEVERLAND
MILLION DOLLAR BABY
RAY
FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM
AS IT IS IN HEAVEN
THE CHORUS
DOWNFALL
THE SEA INSIDE
YESTERDAY
MAKEUP
LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS
THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST
THE SEA INSIDE
MUSIC (SCORE)
FINDING NEVERLAND
HARRY POTTER AND THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN
LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS
THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST
THE VILLAGE
MUSIC (SONG)
"Accidentally In Love" - SHREK 2
"Al Otro Lado Del RÃÂo" - THE MOTORCYCLE DIARIES
"Believe" - THE POLAR EXPRESS
"Learn To Be Lonely" - THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA
"Look To Your Path (Vois Sur Ton Chemin)" - THE CHORUS
SHORT FILM (ANIMATED)
BIRTHDAY BOY
GOPHER BROKE
GUARD DOG
LORENZO
RYAN
SHORT FILM (LIVE ACTION)
EVERYTHING IN THIS COUNTRY MUST
LITTLE TERRORIST
7:35 IN THE MORNING
TWO CARS, ONE NIGHT
WASP
SOUND EDITING
THE INCREDIBLES
THE POLAR EXPRESS
SPIDER-MAN 2
SOUND MIXING
THE AVIATOR
THE INCREDIBLES
THE POLAR EXPRESS
RAY
SPIDER-MAN 2
VISUAL EFFECTS
HARRY POTTER AND THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN
I, ROBOT
SPIDER-MAN 2
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Supporting Actor
Alda
Church
Foxx
Freeman
Owen
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Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:49 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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Our preference or who we think will win?
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Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:50 pm |
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Anonymous
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Church, unless the AMPAS offers Freeman a career achievement award.
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Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:50 pm |
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Anonymous
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Dr. Lecter wrote: Our preference or who we think will win?
Hopefully they're the same but who you think is fine.
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Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:51 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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Freeman will win, but my preference at the moment (without having seen Freeman, but the four others) is Clive Owen.
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Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:53 pm |
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Snrub
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Clive Owen
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Sun Feb 20, 2005 3:08 pm |
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andaroo1
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Clive
I haven't seen Closer. I'm sorry Clive. I'm assuming you are really good in it from everything that people have said!
Alan
Alda was great, he had the best scenes in The Aviator with Leo, but his performance is not noteworthy enough to award.
Jamie
Lets for this topic pretend that the whole conversation about category confusion is eliminated. It's not like Dreamworks is the first one (cough The Hours cough) to get a more leading contendor voted into supporting. Among those, Foxx really deserves the call out for Collateral for playing the cab driver who is just having a bad night. In that script, it would have been easy for both Cruise and Foxx to dip into melodrama and stereotype, but both avoid it wonderfully.
Thomas
Thomas Hayden Church, of any character this year, took me on a rollercoaster of emotions, from thinking he is a dolt, to discovering his love and his humanity, then making me absolutely loathe him, then, in the end feeling a bit sorry for him. He definately deserves the recognition of the nomination, and in many years, the win. Like any great ensemble though, it's hard to pull him out of a movie that's so tightly wound around the characters that awarding one over the other becomes difficult.
Morgan
Freeman's performance isn't the biggest stretch of his career, but he still handles it like the old master he is. Regardless of what he has done in the past, I think he deserves this award not because of his lifetime achievement, just for this film, for the bridge he played in Million Dollar Baby. The unspoken concern and love he has for Maggie and most of the patrons of the boxing gym shines through and through. The heartbreaking moment where he gives Maggie one of the biggest choices of her lifetime. He was flawless, and he deserves it.
My choices:
01 Freeman
02 Church
03 Foxx
04 Alda
Haven't seen Owens.
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Sun Feb 20, 2005 3:25 pm |
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Libs
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My Preferences (in order):
Clive Owen
Thomas Haden Church
Morgan Freeman
Jamie Foxx
Alan Alda
I'm assuming Freeman will get it over Owen and Church (the nomination's the honor for Alda and Foxx).
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Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:20 pm |
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Flava'd vs The World
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Freeman is gonna win. Nothing more can be said.
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Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:21 pm |
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Flava'd‡ wrote: Freeman is gonna win. Nothing more can be said.
Good thing we got that settled. :razz:
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Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:25 pm |
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Maverikk
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How I think they will rank
1. Morgan Freeman
2. Thomas Hayden Church
3. Clive Owen
4. Alan Alda
5. Jamie Foxx
My preference
1. Morgan Freeman
2. Alan Alda
3. Thomas Hayden Church
4. Clive Owen
5. Jamie Foxx (shouldn't even be a nominee in this category)
Freeman will take this award without a real challenge IMO.
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Chris
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Freeman will probably get it, but Owen deserves it more. Actually, Hayden-Church deserves it more too.
My order of preference:
1) Owen
2) Hayden-Church
3) Freeman
4) Alda
5) Foxx
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Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:14 pm |
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Supporting Actress
Blanchett
Linney
Madsen
Okonendo
Portman
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Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:33 am |
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Madsen, though I'm a huge fan of Blanchett's performance.
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Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:34 am |
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andaroo1
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01 Cate Blanchett - The Aviator won't win one of the big awards without an acting award win. That's my GUT feeling. And Cate is worthy, and she can be seen to be maybe a little "owed" for such a "vicious snub" for Elizabeth which a lot of people felt she deserved. I dunno.
02 Virgina Madsen - If Madsen ends up winning this on the night, start looking for Sideways to be a player in the Best Picture category.
03 Natalie Portman - A strong year for Natalie, and proof she can break out of the Star Wars cardboard roles. She's someone who I can see being nominated more than a few times before ever actually winning, or we may never hear from her at the Academy Awards again. I haven't seen Closer so this is only a theory of her placement.
04 Sophie Okonendo - She was good in Hotel Rwanda, and it wasn't hard to be a stand out in that film, but for whatever reason that film came up short. She was never a serious winner, but she cried in the film, and she was pretty good so I guess the nomination is earned. *shrug*.
05 Laura Linney - Poor Laura. Kinsey kinda got buried, didn't it? It will happen again, she isn't going anywhere.
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andaroo wrote: 02 Virgina Madsen - If Madsen ends up winning this on the night, start looking for Sideways to be a player in the Best Picture category.
Good points all around but I want to add something to what you said above. Everyone knows I'm picking Sideways to win BP. But I realize it needs to pick up at least 2, if not 3 other awards IMO to secure BP. That means, screenplay, supporting actress, and hopefully, supporting actor.
The supporting awards are usually given out first. Mark my words, if Sideways takes one or both of those, BP is secured.
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Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:56 am |
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In Order of Preference
Cate Blanchett
Virginia Madsen
Natalie Portman
Sophie Okonedo
Laura Linney (haven't seen Kinsey)
I think that, frankly, The Aviator's one and only win in a major category will be here. I won't be surprised if Madsen upsets, though. Okonedo and Linney have no shot, and I have a feeling Portman will be nominated again many more times.
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Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:05 am |
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Maverikk
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1. Cate Blanchett
2. Natalie Portman
3. Virginia Madsen
4. Laura Linney
5. Sophie Okonedo
Blanchett shows that she has range far beyond playing one of the one dimensional characters in LOTR, and I think that , as well as playing a Hollywood icon, will be enough to make this a pretty sure bet. (you probably didn't like that comment, did you, andaroo? Any guesses why I made it?)
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Dr. Lecter
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My preference as well as my prediction both go to Blanchett.
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andaroo1
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Maverikk wrote: Blanchett shows that she has range far beyond playing one of the one dimensional characters in LOTR, and I think that , as well as playing a Hollywood icon, will be enough to make this a pretty sure bet. (you probably didn't like that comment, did you, andaroo? Any guesses why I made it?)
I really don't care at the moment to be quite honest. :neutral:
Since you do not make your logic clear, I must assume that you are just doing it out of spite because you seem to think that I will get all flamingly upset because you seem to be obsessed with taking Lord of the Rings down as many notches as possible, which isn't new or surprising coming from you so why bother getting in a fight about it or calling me out?
I guess that next you will try to make a rebuttal, but we can skip all that by telling me and the audience here if there is another reason why you would say that, if it is important at all to this discussion. I'm not going to get into a Silmarillion argument with you... so... you are on your own on this one.
But if you think that Blanchett hasn't proved her range before The Aviator, then I don't know what to say except see:
The Missing * Veronica Guerin Heaven Bandits * The Talented Mr. Ripley Elizabeth
* Bandits sucks, but Blanchett is pretty good in it. Same with The Missing.
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Maverikk
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andaroo wrote: Maverikk wrote: Blanchett shows that she has range far beyond playing one of the one dimensional characters in LOTR, and I think that , as well as playing a Hollywood icon, will be enough to make this a pretty sure bet. (you probably didn't like that comment, did you, andaroo? Any guesses why I made it?) I really don't care at the moment to be quite honest. :neutral: Since you do not make your logic clear, I must assume that you are just doing it out of spite because you seem to think that I will get all flamingly upset because you seem to be obsessed with taking Lord of the Rings down as many notches as possible, which isn't new or surprising coming from you so why bother getting in a fight about it or calling me out?
No, because you decided to take an unnecessary shot at Star Wars. Sometimes, I don't think you realize that you and others do that stuff. You only realize when it's done about LOTR. This is why I don't take you seriously when you get upset over shots taken at LOTR, because you take shots like that , and don't say anything when others do.
I quote...
"03 Natalie Portman - A strong year for Natalie, and proof she can break out of the Star Wars cardboard roles."
Now, you can't possibly claim that you didn't know you said that, and you didn't know when you did that, that it wouldn't be noticed. Those kinds of comments are what lead to comments that I know will get to you. Wouldn't it be better not to have those comments at all? 
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Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:49 pm |
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andaroo1
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I want a mod involved in this conversation right now, in reference to your other topic...
I view this now as a personal attack.
Maverikk wrote: No, because you decided to take an unnecessary shot at Star Wars. It wasn't unnecessary, it was my opinion? Quote: Sometimes, I don't think you realize that you and others do that stuff. I don't care. It was innocuous comment on a messageboard. It wasn't a thesis. Why has this become your crusade? Quote: You only realize when it's done about LOTR. I didn't reply to you because you said something about Lord of the Rings, you SPECIFICALLY called me out in your topic. You are baiting me into argument. Quote: This is why I don't take you seriously when you get upset over shots taken at LOTR, because you take shots like that , and don't say anything when others do. Mav, respect is a two way street. You need to allow me to say what I need to say, god knows I don't post after every single one of your pot shots at movies I like. Quote: Those kinds of comments are what lead to comments that I know will get to you. Wouldn't it be better not to have those comments at all? 
So because you disagree with "x" comment about movie, then you try to spark an argument instead of just letting innocent pointless internet comment go. Great. Wouldn't it do you better if you would just let things go and stop being so pent up about it?
And yes, I know I fought with Lecter the other day, but I was wrong to do that.
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Maverikk
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andaroo wrote: It wasn't unnecessary, it was my opinion? It's my opinion that Cate was very stiff in LOTR, but if I decided to make the remark, your feathers would have been ruffled. I stayed away from making any comments that I knew would irritate, but you didn't. andaroo wrote: I don't care. It was innocuous comment on a messageboard. It wasn't a thesis. Then don't worry about it so much when others make comments that don't paint LOTR in a good light. You can't have it both ways. andaroo wrote: I didn't reply to you because you said something about Lord of the Rings, you SPECIFICALLY called me out in your topic. You are baiting me into argument. Save it. You replied in another thread when I said King Kong had no chance, and called me out for being anti Peter Jackson, but encouraged those who were pro PJ by saying nothing. I didn't bait you, I just wanted to let you know that I saw what you did, and I'm not foolish enough to believe it wasn't done on purpose. Regardless, I'm not gonna argue about it. andaroo wrote: Mav, respect is a two way street. You need to allow me to say what I need to say, god knows I don't post after every single one of your pot shots at movies I like. andaroo, you comment more than you are willing to admit. If you want me to allow you to say what you want to, then you have to extend the same curtesy to me at all times. andaroo wrote: Wouldn't it do you better if you would just let things go and stop being so pent up about it?
Let's not act innocent. If I had made a jab at Cate, I know something would have been said, because it would have been unnecessary for me to say. Natalie Portman has had other roles in which she has showed a broader range, so your comments are redundant at best.
Anyway, I'm done talking about it. Feel free to say what you want. :wink:
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andaroo1
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Sent a PM to bABA, sick of it.
Quote: but encouraged those who were pro PJ by saying nothing
If I don't say anything, it's STILL my fault. Great logic there.
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